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How anybody possibly could get the idea, that I'm 'christian' is beyond me. I think my posts are making my critical attitude to 'christian' doctrine and especially 'christian' fundamentalism abundantly obvious.
If it is not a universal truth then there is no way they are talking about God, they must be talking about something lower, God is universal and did not create one universe for Christians and a separate one for Buddhists.
Originally posted by Sunlionspirit
reply to post by SaturnFX
Hello, you up there : I really do not accept your statement, first there is Christianity, then there is catholicism.
I can accept that catholicism is false, but NOT christianity !!!
try to make difference please.
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
With regards to the OP, the issue is not what Christianity is.
The issue is whether Christianity is, in any way whatsoever, an accurate reflection of the Teaching of Jesus.
And it is not.
Christianity teaches the Pharisaical interpretation of the "resurrection" as the raising of a dead physical body from the grave.
It was for teaching the "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth' that Jesus and many of his closest followers were murdered in the first place: the threat they presented to the Pharisaical power structure and religious establishment.
Christianity and the Teaching of Jesus start off from fundamentally different and irreconcilable assertions.
Michael
Originally posted by dontreally
Where exactly does your knowledge of Pharisiac theology come from?
Originally posted by dontreally
Where exactly does your knowledge of Pharisiac theology come from?
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
Originally posted by dontreally
Where exactly does your knowledge of Pharisiac theology come from?
Everything you say exists exclusively at the level of thought and belief; that is, the thoughts of the 'thinker'.
The consciousness of the 'thinker' is symbolized in both the Revelation of John (13:11) and Sura 27:82 of the Quran as the "beast of the earth".
The simple fact of the matter is that Revealed Truth does not exist at the level of either thought or belief: "As high as the heavens are above the earth are My thoughts above your thoughts." (from somewhere in the Book of Isaiah).
Revealed Truth exists at the level of Knowledge rather than belief; which is what "Gnosticism" is all about: attaining a very direct Knowledge of the Truth rather than being required merely to believe the nitwit assertions of any religious 'authorities' based upon nothing more than thought (the thoughts of the 'thinker' originating in the fear of death and the desire for pleasure--See Descartes, Krishnamurti, Freud etc.)
Thus, the "Gnostics" sought to experience the Revelation of the Memory of Creation (Genesis 2:7), the revelation of the memories of previous lives; and the Vision referred to as the Vision of the "Son of man", or the "Vision of Knowledge" in the Thanksgiving Hymns (or the "Tree of Life" in Genesis 3:24--as explained by the merkavah mystics of Judaism).
Every religious establishment is, of course, lethally opposed to any assertion or even so much as suggestion that the individual can attain to a Knowledge of Truth without the help of the religious 'authorities'. After all, they make their money on the basis of the assertion that either the doctrines they teach, or the practices they perform on behalf of the 'faithful' are in some way crucial to the individual's salvation, however that salvation is defined.
I have never accepted one red cent for any of the Revelations I have received. I have accumulated around myself not even so much as one follower in more than 34 years.
My goal is not to earn a living through such Revelations (or, for that matter, pay for my health insurance) or to gather followers; but merely to inform people of the Truth.
They then have the responsibility of pursuing that Truth to the degree that they are motivated.
My only responsibility is to inform.
If people don't want to be informed, then they are not informed. They are irritated or angry.
This is neither my problem nor my concern.
Michael
edit on 29-9-2010 by Michael Cecil because: spelling
edit on 29-9-2010 by Michael Cecil because: add reference to the "Tree of Life"
Originally posted by Michael Cecil
Originally posted by dontreally
Where exactly does your knowledge of Pharisiac theology come from?
Oh, by the way, the "Ten Sephirot of the Tree of Life", Knowledge of which is conveyed by means of the Vision of the "Son of man" through the 2-dimensional 'flat' space consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Genesis1:27)--see, also, the "Stargate Sequence of Jupiter & Beyond the Infinite" in 2001--A Space Odyssey--is a geometrical representation of the distribution of the ten principal phonetic tones (the "ten horns" referred to in the Book of Daniel and the Revelation of John) across the seven chakras or Seven Churches of the Revelation of John. In Jewish mysticism, these are described as "spiritual attributes"; which, of course, is one explanation; although there are others. (These "horns" are not to be confused, however, with the Seven Trumpets of the Revelation of John which refer to the seven principal emotions experienced in the chakras or churches: red for desire; orange for anxiety; yellow for fear; green for lust, greed and envy; blue for sorrow; indigo for self-righteous indignation, and purple for rage--it being understood that emerald green is the color of love and the Fourth Church at which the Revelation of the "resurrection" is received--see the Revelation of John Chapter 4, vs. 3).
Meanwhile, just as there are Three Phases in the War of the Sons of Light, as described in the Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light (1QM) of the Dead Sea Scrolls, there are also Three Books: the Book of the Law, which is the Torah; the Book of Life, which is the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives; and the Book of Truth (see the Book of Daniel Chapter 10, vs. 20a), which is the Vision of the "Son of man"---------it being understood that the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light occurs by means of a time-reversal prior to the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light; which is, in and of itself, at time-reversal to the Revelation of the Memory of Creation; and, then, a time-forward progression through the memories of previous lives.
In addition, in terms of its phonetic analysis in English, Jesus statement that he was the "Way, the Truth and the Life" is to be understood as follows:
The Way--the Long A phonetic tone pertains to the Revelation of the "resurrection" at the heart chakra and Fourth Church--is a code word for the "resurrection" in both the Book of Isaiah ("My Ways are not your ways.") and the Thanksgiving Hymns ("Of the Way of Thy heart, they--that is, the Jewish religious 'authorities' at the time of Jesus--say 'It is not the Way.'" In other words, the Jewish religious 'authorities' at the time of Jesus denied both the Vision of the "Son of man"--that is, the "Vision of Knowledge"--as well as the Revelation of the "resurrection".
The Truth--the Long U phonetic tone refers to the First Church or second chakra--pertains to the Law.
The Life--the Long I phonetic tone pertains to the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Seventh Church.
Michael
edit on 29-9-2010 by Michael Cecil because: misspelling of rage
edit on 29-9-2010 by Michael Cecil because: add phonetic analysis of the statement of Jesus