The Left and "Progressives" Are Becoming A Cancer Of This Nation!

People blindly voted for Obama in the "hopes" of uniting this country, now the country is more divided than it has ever been in history.
No it's not because a non-white is in power but because of the liberal agenda.

From complete idiots like Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann to representatives like Alan Grayson and progressive democrats.... all they do 24/7 is partisan bickering.

Bush this, bush that, the right this, the right that, conservatives this conservatives that all while offering No solutions whatsoever!!

Bicker bicker and bicker, divide the country all while offering no solutions at all, isn't that the wet dream of any dictatorship?

All I see coming from the left is partisan bickering, so huge like i've never seen before, almost like they are a bunch of zombies.
I don't know if the left drinks a different type of kool-aid or something, but they are all acting like mindless zombies with absolutely no purpose in life.

They are becoming the cancer of the country!

How can progressives consider themselves progressive with zero progress?

Now keep in mind, I do not usually talk, post or much less make a thread about either the left or the right, but here I thought I should because it's becoming important.

And all while the country is going down the drain, Obama is socializing the nation, stimulus money is being sent for offshoring the best the left can do is go to gay rights rallies????????????

Are you serious??????????????

I just cannot believe the level of zombie-like thinking that is affecting the country right now, and it seems like no one cares.

I also believe Glenn Beck is a double agent paid by Dems, but that's for another thread.

What are you going to do about it?

No, it's guys like you that demonize people that think differently than you that are polarizing the nation.
Right or left, the unwillingness to compromise and seek realistic solutions seems to be a thing of the past.
The Republicans in Congress have publicly stated their only goal is to oppose everything the Obama administration proposes. Great. Thanks guys.
Stop whining about Socialism. You don't even know what it is.

Originally posted by OldDragger
No, it's guys like you that demonize people that think differently than you that are polarizing the nation.

I am not demonizing anyone that thinks differently, I think differently than almost everyone on this board ask anyone.

I am however very much criticizing nothing but bickering bickering and more and more bickering about the right.
Don't you think that is what is polarizing the nation?
Isn't that common sense?

Originally posted by OldDragger
The Republicans in Congress have publicly stated their only goal is to oppose everything the Obama administration proposes. Great.

Name me 5 things that Obama has done that is good for the country and I will name you twice that number that he is doing horribly, assuming you can even come up with 5 to begin with.

And I would have said this if Obama was a republican too, so it's not about his party.

Listen, there is no denying that dividing the nation is what is dividing the nation.
This isn't debatable, division is division.

And will you at least agree with me on that everyone blindly voted for Obama to unite the country but now the country is more divided than it ever was? Will you at least agree with that?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I think I get what you are saying, but I don't think it has anything to do with Liberals or Progressives.. I think it has to do with the complete and total breakdown of any semblence of functionality in Washington, D.C. If the republicans or tea partiers were in power, we would see exactly the same sort of behavior and still have nothing substantial getting done.

It almost seems academic at the time. My view of the US Government is the same as the US's view of Russia during the cold war. Keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't become an active threat. Other than that, leave it alone.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Funny, I'd say calling progressives a "cancer" is demonizing.
I'll not debate the merits or lack of ) of Obama.
That's not the subject.
I get it, you are "conservative' and don't like Obama.
too bad. there's an election in 2012, better luck then!

I feel compelled to post in this thread.

Only because I think that after reading the title, it still influences taking sides and 'polarizing' the readers.

I don't feel that I am 'left' or 'right'. I am me. No political affiliation.

We know, after all this talk of 'progressivism' and 'liberal' views, that the MSM is making people choose sides.
For what? I can't answer.
But we know divided we fall, united we stand.

First, it's not their political view that I hate.
It's the evil behind what these people want, that I detest.
It's not just the liberals either. Both 'sides' have evil tendencies.

We shouldn't have a political divide in this great nation, but we do.
So why call out who is doing what?
There are things we can name about everyone in office since the 60's that have destroyed this nation.

It's the people, namely, not the political party they are associated with.

Either way, I am tired of hearing about what 'liberals' have done, or what they want.
Look at the people behind the party.
The people that are involved in the groups behind the political aspect.
The people you don't see.

The leaders of the Council on Foreign Relations.
The Trilateral Commission.
The City of Rome.
The Bilderbergs.
The 'Federal' Reserve.

Why is it that you never hear what 'party' they are affiliated with?
Why is it that you never hear about their views?

Because they are all the same.
World domination. Global Gov't. One Currency.
They could care less what we call them.
As long as we continue to fight amongst ourselves, we aren't paying much attention to them.
Are we?

I see heated arguements happening around my work, my social scene, etc.
All over what the TV said about this guy, or the 'progressives', or the 'right-wingers'.
Keep it up! Keep fighting!
That's just what they want!

A Civil Divide

This is getting ridiculous.

OH, the irony! It's just too delicious!

Originally posted by OldDragger
Funny, I'd say calling progressives a "cancer" is demonizing.

Perhaps you are right, i'll consider giving you a star for that one
However most likely not

When I was a kid in school we had a great english teacher, but for a week we had substitute, she was horrible, and when our real teacher came back for a while I told him that she wasn't a good teacher, he said "don't say that, that's not nice".
Who cares if it's not nice I thought, this is MY future!

Originally posted by OldDragger
I'll not debate the merits or lack of ) of Obama.
That's not the subject.

Ok

Originally posted by OldDragger
I get it, you are "conservative' and don't like Obama.
too bad. there's an election in 2012, better luck then!

Wait... and that IS the subject?

Not only is the country not more divided then ever is not even as divided as its was under the last administration. Maybe you missed all the massive anti war protests a few years ago. Obama is a new President who has had the misfortune to come into power with a collapsing economy and 2 wars. Nobody and I mean nobody knows exactly how to fix the economy. Stimulus has been what has been done historicly to combat it and that is the tactic the United States and pretty much evey other nation on earth has followed. Bush Jr. pushed the first stimuless package with the bank bailouts and Obama the second. Although I do not see you bashing Bush or the Republicans who supported that. It is also the very same tactic that would be followed by a Republican President with a Republican congress if they were in power now. Of course when that occured it would be opposed by the Democrats who would complain that it was costing to much. Such is the way of politics. Such is the way it is under every administration.

The fact is Obama has taken a hit in the polls because he has not come up with a magic fix. Of course the fact of the matter is everyone knows their will be no quick fix and that getting things back on track will take the better part of a decade. However despite the situation he was thrust into he remains more popular then Reagan or Clinton at this at the same point in their terms. What we do have is silly claims of socialism and dictatorships etc. These sorts of things are good for getting a rise out of the less educated and ignorant parts of the nation and with the center in a general malaise those are the people that will be most vocal and active. To be fair while Bush was in office the more radical less educated parts of the left did the same thing claiming Bush was a facist and wanted to be a dictator. Claims just as silly as the ones you make here.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Wait... and that IS the subject?
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I thought the subject was the polarizing of America.
That has been the case as ong as I can remember. Is it worse now? I don't think it's worse than the 60's and 70's. It was a bad under Bush and Clinton.
So your premise is that if we had a President that would do "the right" things, this would cease?
Their are fundamental social differences that contribute greatly to this divide. There is allways one side against the other. The problem is intolerance.

The "progressive" agenda and the neo-conservative agenda are just different names for the same cancer plaguing this country. Refusing to recognize the other half of the problem is simply playing into the game they want to be played.

So congratulations, in focusing on just the left you have failed to see the problems in the right, which when analyzed with the problems in the left you reveal this whole left-right paradigm thing is just two different heads using different rhetoric to bring about the same massive monster that will destroy this country.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

I am not demonizing anyone that thinks differently, I think differently than almost everyone on this board ask anyone.

Did you read your own OP?

It's right there at the top of this page. You just wrote it a while ago.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
The Left and "Progressives" Are Becoming A Cancer Of This Nation!

People blindly voted for Obama...

From complete idiots like Rachel Maddow to Keith Olbermann to representatives like Alan Grayson and progressive democrats.... all they do 24/7 is partisan bickering.

Bush this, bush that, the right this, the right that, conservatives this conservatives that all while offering No solutions whatsoever!!

Bicker bicker and bicker, divide the country all while offering no solutions at all, isn't that the wet dream of any dictatorship?

All I see coming from the left is partisan bickering, so huge like i've never seen before, almost like they are a bunch of zombies.

I don't know if the left drinks a different type of kool-aid or something, but they are all acting like mindless zombies with absolutely no purpose in life.

They are becoming the cancer of the country!

Progressives are...

A cancer to society
Blind
Complete Idiots
A wet dream of any Dictatoriship
Socialists
Mindless Zombies with no purpose in life

But you are not demonizing anyone?

Post Election 2008, the GOP suffered losses in both houses and the Whitehouse.

This was due to voters desperately looking for change.

At that point in political history the GOP had fundementally two available strategies to regaining power.

(1) Examine the source of discontent that removed them from power and adjust thier platform to accomodate what the public seemed to be looking for.

(2) Dig in thier heels and become obstructionists. Blockade any every bill and policy regardless of it's merits. Rather than move away from the far right's extremist positions, give them a bigger loudspeaker...translation, find folks willing to fund it like the 3rd wealthiest family in the country the Koch Brothers.

This still left them with the conservative independants who were not on board with the prior administration or the establishment GOP...answer? The Tea Party, run by Dick Armey, Lobbyist, GOP..as establishment as it gets, but he created a movement of "astro-turf"...recruiting members in a grass roots fashion, but idealogically under control of Freedomwerks and it's interests like the Koch Brothers.

The Tea Party then became the muscle of the "Money Wing" of the GOP. RINOs beware.

I have a hard time examining events and comming to the conclusion that the blame for the division in this country belongs squarely at the feet of the democrats.

Honestly I consider it one of those comedically ironic statements that regulary emenates from the right, like "Fox News...Fair and Balanced"...Freedom of Religion...but not for Muslims, The Constitution!! except the 1st, 13th, 14th amendments etc. etc.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


You blame others for an act and in the very same moment; You do it yourself.

Isn't that kind of ironic?

Forget the right, forget the left and tell all else to do the same if you ever want to get over this game. Quit blaming one party when the other party does the same.

The real cancer to this country, even the world is the Man or Woman who declare they are right and others are wrong. The ones who seek to force their will on another. The tools used for this cancer to spread are government, religion, and money.

Government- who has a right to tell another what to do in life? No one. We are all born with free will.

Religion - Who has a right to tell another how to perceive God? No one. Do we all not have eyes and a mind to comprehend to the best of our ability?

Money - Who has the right to determine another's worth to this world? No one. Don't we all contribute to our survival in some way shape or form?

Love all, judge none, be at peace.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by ModernAcademia


The conservatives have sure done a fine job. Wars, deregulation that lead to our current financial crisis, Corporate welfare, approaching theocracy, and hateful rhetoric against those they disagree with. "Cancer"

I wonder if you will be as critical of the next bunch of asshats that will be elected in Nov. and 2012?

And MA....

What are you going to do about it?

I'm going to ignore you because you lost all credibility....see my signature.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
People blindly voted for Obama in the "hopes" of uniting this country, now the country is more divided than it has ever been in history.

Between The Civil War and the more recent Civil Rights movement, you have a lot of history to learn. Aside from ranting and demonizing and trying to divide, do you have anything that backs up your opinion? Do you have any solutions? Do you have anything real to say or did you just listen to Michael Savage and felt angrily empowered with no facts or ideas to back it up? Just curious.

Originally posted by MrSpad
Not only is the country not more divided then ever is not even as divided as its was under the last administration. Maybe you missed all the massive anti war protests a few years ago

You bring up an interesting topic here
There were many anti-war protests
Now there are none even though TWO MORE COUNTRIES have been added to the list of invasions, Yemen and Pakistan, under Obama's clock.

Where are the anti-war protests though?

This leads me to believe that those anti-war protests were not full of anti-war people but anti-republican people.

If you could show me some logic that suggests otherwise I would apreciate it.

Originally posted by MrSpad
Obama is a new President who has had the misfortune to come into power with a collapsing economy and 2 wars.

Correct!
And what do you do when you have a collapsed economy caused by overspending? You spend more right?
That's what Obama did, he increased military budget by 11% which means trillions and not to mention all those bailouts.

Oh ya and 2 wars, so what do you do when you have two wars? You multiply it by 2 and now it's 4 wars, Pakistan, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq.

But poor Obama right???

Thanks for the explanation!!

Originally posted by OldDragger
I thought the subject was the polarizing of America.
That has been the case as ong as I can remember. Is it worse now? I don't think it's worse than the 60's and 70's. It was a bad under Bush and Clinton.

There was never this much partistan bickering, and I am not saying ok there's a little more
No I see a surge!

Originally posted by OldDragger
So your premise is that if we had a President that would do "the right" things, this would cease?

I think that we are so used to partisanship that it will never cease overnight.
That is not a realistic expectation.
But something should be done to at least begin uniting it especially when Obama was voted in to unite the country.
Instead there is a surge of a division, way more agressive than before and way more "no sticking to the issues" but just bickering.
This is what I am seeing.

Originally posted by OldDragger
Their are fundamental social differences that contribute greatly to this divide. There is allways one side against the other. The problem is intolerance.

The problem is not intolerance, Obama got in when many disliked the republicans, now that's his platform.
I'm sure you agree that's not a good platform.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia


Instead there is a surge of a division, way more agressive than before and way more "no sticking to the issues" but just bickering.
This is what I am seeing.

Just a thought.

Why don't you come up with a plan "stick to the issues" and stop calling people names. Here's a challenge...

You lead the way, otherwise you are just like the people you are whineing about. You can't see your hypocrisy?

Originally posted by whaaa
Just a thought.

Why don't you come up with a plan "stick to the issues" and stop calling people names. Here's a challenge...

You lead the way!

Sure i'll make a thread on that!
Oh wait I actually already did
www.abovetopsecret.com...

But it didn't get any responses.

Now before you say that I am not at all conforming to what I am asking in that thread by creating this thread let me explain before you highlight it.

You have to make the patient aware before you cure him!

look at some in this thread and others, they think that Obama is peace, they think Obama is unity, they think Obama wants to do the correct thing.
All of this is wrong!

Oh then you will say the right thought the same during Bush,
My argument is that there is currently a surge and the division is like never before.

Was never really a fan of Bill O'reilly, but in all honesty, there was never this much partisan bickering on fox news as there is now on MSNBC. I'm not saying there wasn't any, but to me a lot less than MSNBC