'West needs to mobilize into coalition to strike Iran'

reply to post by boondock-saint


Spot on.

I love it how folks talk about the "west" doing something, when "west" = "US". Then when what ever action it is goes to hell it is the US's fault.

What ever the west has to do, there is absolutely no reason the US has to get involved in anything more than sanctions and working the diplomacy behind the scenes.

We have absolutely no business going into Iran what so ever.

Should the Israeli's nuke them, that, again is their business and they will need to deal with the ramifications.

the policy is "full spectrum dominance"-
the us/nato agenda plows forward-
more bases and projections for wars.
the war business is booming-profits way up.
along with troop suicide rates.
freedom is on the march..

Hamas steps up attacks as Netanyahu agrees they are no bar to talks

As Israeli-Palestinian talks resumed Wednesday, Sept. 15 in Jerusalem, Hamas cranked up its attacks from Gaza Tuesday and Wednesday morning, shooting three missiles, almost certainly Iranian-made Grades, overnight at the two Israeli port cities of Ashkelon and Ashdod, and another missile and nine mortar rounds by noon Wednesday - 7 against Eshkol region farms and two at Kibbutz Nirim.

Its like they are ungry for a new war with a neighboor before they go into Iran
they are pissed off right now that Obama didnt give the green light yet

i just hope Obama will never give that green light

Here we go, a long with the Mossad helping pull off 9/11 now they are going to drag us into another bs war with Iran. Who controls america, sure as hell not the citizens. Im sure Rupert Murdoch, owner of fox news, will be pushing the Iran propaganda for his jewish buddies...

Barak: Sanctions may not be enough to stop Iran nuclear program

Defense Minister Ehud Barak said late Monday that "sanctions might not suffice" in curbing Iran's contentious nuclear program, telling Fox News that the Islamic Republic could theoretically have atomic warheads within two years.

"Sanctions might not suffice and we have to start to consider what follows if sanctions won't work," said the defense minister. "Technically, probably they can reach it within a year and a half or two, if they decide to break all the rules. Probably it might take a little bit longer, but the real challenge is that beyond [a] certain point in time, whether they reach [a] nuclear bomb, or cannot reach it, they will become immune against any kind of attack because of the redundancy within their systems."

Barak was visiting Washington at the time of his interview, for talks with high-level U.S. officials including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Defense Secretary Robert Gates.

"I don’t believe sanctions alone would work, but it's too early to put any further steps into concrete terms," he told the U.S. news network. "Basically we believe that no option should be removed from the table. We recommend this policy to friends and I believe that it becomes more and more accepted by leading players around the world."

"Not just for Israel - I believe that even for this administration, for this country, it will part of the way history will judge this period, this administration when it comes to the end of its term whether Iran turned nuclear under this administration's watch or not," he added.

Barak's comments came just hours after U.S. President Barack Obama said that Iran having a nuclear weapon would be a "real problem" but he did not think military action by Israel or the United States was the "ideal way" to solve the crisis.

The United Nations Security Council, along with the United States and the European Union, has imposed tougher sanctions on Iran, which has defied international calls for it to halt uranium enrichment.

Iran says it needs the enriched uranium for the peaceful generation of electricity, but the United States and its allies, including Israel, fear Tehran's nuclear program is a cover to build an atomic bomb.

"We continue to be open to diplomatic solutions to resolve this," Obama told a town-hall style meeting on CNBC. "We don't think that a war between Israel and Iran or military options would be the ideal way to solve this problem."

But Obama too, said that the U.S. is "keeping all our options on the table."

The Iran war is still on the table .. for the zionist .. its the only option
its coming slowly but surely...
i think the president of Iran saw it right

Iran sets major exercise; Ahmadinejad sees war by November

So, bottom line.
What is the deal with Iran having nukes?
Do we suspect them of bombing the holy land and irradiating the temple mount?
Some pieces in the puzzle do not fit.
Why are the Israeli's worried about some bombs?

Those bombs in Iran isnt gonna just 'irridate' the holy land. It will murder millions of jews as well as other arabs from the nuke fallout as the radio atcive isotopes float around the world contaminating food and water sources for a long, long period of time.

The illegal Iranian leadership is absolutely irresponsible in pushing for nuke weapons in the guise of energy of medical needs, without full authorisation from its People.

Nukes are a big responsibility to uphold - you will either have to live or die by it and must be prepared for it in this age of massive simultaneous launches of EVERY nuke in a nation's arsenal upon detection of a nuke flying out from the enemy side.

It is no longer the good old days of dropping one bomb, sit down have a cup of tea and biscuits, negotiate again. IMMEDIATE annihilation of a population is how those whom seek for nuke capability today. And Israel do have legitimate concerns.

HOWEVER, the nutcase Ahmad and the nuke weapons HAD NOT materialise, at least not yet, thus there is NO concern about striking Iran now. The Soveriegn Iranian people will have to decide and uphold the responsibilities for having nukes, not Ahmad and the bunch of senile old fools ruling Iran today.

To strike Iran today, without clear evidence of nuke weapons, is to put EVERY human life at risks of war and terrorism. The senile old fools in Iran will play the religious cards, and our brothers/sisters of the muslim of faith will be forced to react -ending up with brother killing brother. Enough of such killings.

Let the Soveriegn Iranian People decide if they wish to live with the Damocles sword of nukes. If so, then they will be responsible for it, to use it as a measure of peace and not one of war against others, or they will only be wiped out as a nation within seconds once their leader presses the button, and no one else in the world will shed a tear for them.

IT will be tough on the soveriegn people of Israel as well, to live with a nuke neighbour, and thus must always seek for peace as well as anti-nuke measures for self protection while at peace, rather than to endlessly engage in mindless and selfish acts to pull the world into the malestrom of never ending wars, worse when such acts are not in the interest of the Sovereign People of Iran nor compelling evidence that the senile old fools of Iran will launch a nuke attack with what pathetic bombs, if any, they have to wipe themselves off the face of our Earth.

I dont expect much to be done about this at all. Not directly anyway. Its not co-incidence that the Saudis just got the green light to buy more than 60 billion worth of US defence technology. This on the heels of the F-35 aid package to Israel. I suspect missile defence will be given to the Saudis also.

The west wont be mobilising into another coalition for a generation unless invaded. Iraq has seen to that. I suspect that despite the rhetoric the US gov is planning on the basis that Iran will be nuclear capable in the near future.

reply to post by justwokeup


I fully agree with you.

US and the other super-powers will have to live with a nuke proliferated world. No nation will allow themselves cowed by nukes from other nations. There is unfortunately no closing of the pandora box once opened.... of what was gifted to solve our energy needs but turn into weapons of mass annihilation, such is human stupidity and selfishness not to mentioned immaturity...

If not nukes, as our tech progress, there will be other forms of WMD, for we have yet to mature and like kids, play with toys instead of using for humanity's progress and evolution to the stars...when, when will we ever grow up?

Leave Iran alone. There wasn't nearly this much controversy when Israel went nuclear, or even the US. So many extremist idiots actually believe that Iran is going to nuke Israel the second it makes them. How absurd. Stop being fear mongers. We learned from Iraq that if someone wants a war they will lie to congress in order to convince them.

War is distgusting but if we are going to be there might as well get the job done.

reply to post by Ben81


Considering Iran's sponsoring and arming of Hezbolah and other terror groups in the Middle East, against Israel, I, as someone who comes from the Eastern Mediterranean region, do not exactly have the urge to find out if Iran intends to build nukes, and what they may do with them.

If you want to play these sorts of games, stick to computer games.
But the implications of Iran going nuclear(weapons), and passing such weapons to Hezbolah, are far too great, and go beyond Israel and Iran.
All it will take is another war in the region, where Hezbolah/Iran are losing, and a nuke will be detonated(if Iran gets nukes.)

The chances Iran wont pass nukes on to Hezbolah, are pretty slim. There's a high chance they will.
Because that will give them another card to play.
If Iran is left alone, and they do obtain nukes, then by passing them to Hezbolah they can then start throwing their weight around the region, and there wont be much that can be done without risking nuclear war.

Iran gets attack - Hezbolah blows up Tel Aviv, that kind of scenario.

And given Irans willingness and love of sending arms and financing Hezbolah, as someone from the East. Med. I don't really want to play a game of "lets see what happens".