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Yeah, you wouldn't be surprised. That's right, it's not that anyone could ever possibly present evidence or sentiment that disagrees with your viewpoint, it's that they are all just disinfo agents.
If what we are doing is disinformation and we are 'agents' then I guess I am already on the side that I want to be on. If we were to pick sides and this is the basis of how we draw the lines in the sand, I would bet that you and others like you that dismiss any information that contradicts your accepted reality as the work of disinformation agents will find that you have no one on your side.
It is simply too easy (mentally) to call someone an agent of some kind.
I mean, that solution would account for so many things. Why is the world and society in such terrible shape? Oh, its all just because of this secret organization of a few people that are doing it all to everyone. I am sorry, but it is way more complex than just that. But, that is an easy answer that doesnt require much work. We dont have to investigate too much because hey, they are secret, there are hardly any records let alone admission of membership.
Same with the OP, it sounds like everything you heard about quantum physics seemed like BS to you, you couldnt wrap your head around it and it just didnt make any sense to you. You might have watched a couple videos, some maybe had some people that seemed too new age for you and so you got that association and then, maybe other videos featured some people highlighting the fact that most of it all is theoretical.
You still couldnt wrap your finger around it so, your mind formulated an answer to make itself comfortable. It happens that you seemed to be ok with that answer.
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
I didn't say you were a disinfo agent.. but it is a definite possibility. I just think people shoiuld take note of that possibility when they see hostile or belittling responses to theories presented. It could be a greta indicator we are on the right track. And vice versa..
It's true that any of us could be disinfo agents. I am no less suspect than anyone else from others viewpoint. We all need to be vveyr aware of this. But me pointing this out supports my stance doesn't it? If I was a disinfo agent I wouldn't be mentining it.
It is simply too easy (mentally) to call someone an agent of some kind.
What is easy I would imagine is disinfo agents making people's theories look silly they disagree with. Jim Garrison said he was treated this way when he was investigating the JFK assassination too. I would think it is very easy to ignore issues here on this site and bump actual disinfo threads to prevent people from discussing topics they want to. All someone would have to do is post some video with a flying saucer on the sit enow and make threads like this ignored. Especially when the people who post a theory like mine are treated with cat physicist pics...
You say that the easiest part is for a disinfo agent to discredit someones argument. Well, this can only be true if the original argument is FULL OF HOLES.
Its only easy to discredit someones theory if they havent spent much time on building it and have left it full of holes. So, you are basically saying that if anyone argues with the many delusional theories it is not because the theories are weak, but because the people are actually agents of some kind? Are you also saying that if a specific thread doesnt get bumped it is because the agents are bumping 'their' threads and thats it, not because there just isnt interest in it?
Yeah, sounds like the sentiment of person suffering from delusional paranoia. It is people like you that discredit our community with your paranoid delusions.
Then, there are people like you that post theories on this board not with the intention of collaboration or peer based feedback. You come on here posting your theories hoping to set them in stone, hoping to make them final, hoping that they will be seen as the last word.
Put your tin foil hat on, lock your doors and dont leave your home because everyone and I mean EVERYONE is out to get you, because you are so important. Because you have such cutting edge theories that we must silence you immediately.
OK, so I am a disinfo agent. If I am a disinfo agent I guess that makes you an agent of misinformation.
All of us disinfo agents are forming a crew. You better watch out because we are coming to a thread near you to punch more holes in your already colander like theories.
8311-XHT, go over to prison planet, you will find lots of peopl just like you there. No need to worry about people challenging you or not accepting your word as the final truth so long as you keep spouting stuff like this..
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
So me thinking someone posting cat pictures in a thread without posting a legitimate argument is derailing the topic is delusional? Again.. you are making yourself sound like a disinfo agent hear IMO. You are completely contrdicting yor own statemnt as well IMO. If the theory was really poor it would be easy to shoot holes in and wouldn't require cat pictures. Othe rpeople also said they thought my theory was plausible so.. there you go..
the photon theory and the wave-particle duality, the quantum theory of atomic motion in solids, the zero-point energy concept, the semi-classical version of the Schrödinger equation, and the quantum theory of a monatomic gas which predicted Bose–Einstein condensation.
n 1905 Albert Einstein interpreted Planck's quantum hypothesis realistically and used it to explain the photoelectric effect, in which shining light on certain materials can eject electrons from the material. Einstein postulated that light itself consists of individual quanta of energy
Originally posted by davespanners
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
So me thinking someone posting cat pictures in a thread without posting a legitimate argument is derailing the topic is delusional? Again.. you are making yourself sound like a disinfo agent hear IMO. You are completely contrdicting yor own statemnt as well IMO. If the theory was really poor it would be easy to shoot holes in and wouldn't require cat pictures. Othe rpeople also said they thought my theory was plausible so.. there you go..
Good god I thought we got over this as you said in the other thread that you "had added me as a friend" but it appears not..
I did not post a cat picture in this thread without posting a legitimate argument, before the picture and after it II posted a number of times explaining why I thought your argument was wrong, giving you examples of electronics that use Quantum Mechanics and made reasoned arguments against what you were saying.
Your making out that I just came into this thread, posted a picture of a cat and then left....
Where exactly is the Disinfo in a picture of a cat with glasses, what kind of information is the picture conveying apart from the fact that i like cats.
Nothing EVER requires a cat picture, it was supposed to be a bit of fun for gods sake, and other posters in this thread could see it for the silly joke that it was.
Originally posted by davespanners
Albert Einstien was one of the founding fathers of QM... Where are you getting this stuff from?
Einstiens theories include:-
the photon theory and the wave-particle duality, the quantum theory of atomic motion in solids, the zero-point energy concept, the semi-classical version of the Schrödinger equation, and the quantum theory of a monatomic gas which predicted Bose–Einstein condensation.
He had a problem with some aspects of it, like the lack of deterministic causality but he more or less invented it
n 1905 Albert Einstein interpreted Planck's quantum hypothesis realistically and used it to explain the photoelectric effect, in which shining light on certain materials can eject electrons from the material. Einstein postulated that light itself consists of individual quanta of energy
There is no definitive proof that Quntum Mechanics is real on a fundamental level. Einstein did not belive it either.. and the scientific community ostracized him for fighting it.. this is EINSTEIN!
Originally posted by 8311-XHT
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
Just ask yourself this though.. if the government has developed somehting like antigravity or somekind of free energy.. and they are so worried aobut it getting out to the public for financial and security reasons becuase it would completely destabilize the economy AND could allow any person to go to Home Depot and essentially build themselves a nuke.. how would you prevent scientists from discovering this tech? To me Quantum Mechanics seems like the perfect method of derailing all of science.
I am of the belief that all these people we see publicly talking about aliens are government disinfo agents. I feel they are trying to hoazx others within the governemnt to belive these amazing crat they see and hear aobut are aliens rather than government crafts.
-John Lear's dad was part of a large group of corporations plannig on working together to develop anigrav fleew for CIA
-Hal Puthoff worked for Naval intelligence and according to Jack Saefatti had alien enounter when young
-Ingo Swann is a Remote Viewer for th goverment who wrote a book about remote viewing alines on the moon
-Bob Lazar is best buddies with John Lear and looks like Steven Greer's clone
Why would the government go to all this trouble to keep this technology secret? The reason is that when someone learns that something is possible it gives them a huge edge in working towards it themselves because they know what is possible and what isn't. If some other government didn't know antigrav was possible they would be less likely to dump huge sums of money into developing it. So by pretending aliens are responsible for the tech it makes it seem too difficut to pursue.
and again.. remember.. the best disinfo mixes real info in with false. This is what I think they have done with quantum mechanics. The basis of it was real. And they have likely planted info and theories to take us off course. I have seen real scientists debate this for long periods of time. There is no definitive proof that Quntum Mechanics is real on a fundamental level. Einstein did not belive it either.. and the scientific community ostracized him for fighting it.. this is EINSTEIN! If they can and would do that to Einstein with no definitive proof,,, then surely anything is possible.
See the issue I am having with your line of thinking is that you are assuming the conspiracy, to you it is a logical given as opposed to something that is up for debate.
This makes you a partisan not a researcher. You do not like Quantum Theory because it is counter-intuitive to Newtonian Physics, and you want to believe that there are both aliens visiting earth and a government conspiracy to both keep it all under wraps and control the technology in a way that the government does not do.
What I am saying is the reason these things are obvious to you is because you have convinced yourself of them based upon things that are not scientific or even what we would call trusted sources in journalism, you want such things to be true.
Everything you have talked about can have a much more reasonable explanation than the ones you have presented, and a critical and skeptical mind will do you a lot of good in realizing that.