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Sir Winston Churchiill, Illuminati

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posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:04 PM
More and more we find out about the TRUE nature of those who were presented as GOOD people.!

Unknown to Londoners, he had rejected Hitler's proposal to spare civilian targets. Quite the opposite, he goaded Hitler into bombing London by hitting Berlin and other civilian targets first.

Churchill told his Air Marshall: "Never mistreat an enemy by halves" and instructed his cabinet, "bombing of military objectives, increasingly widely interpreted, seems our best road home at present." He blocked the Red Cross from monitoring civilian casualties. (440)

Before the end of Sept. 1940, 7,000 Londoners including 700 children lay dead. By the end of the war, more than 60,000 British civilians and 650,000 German civilians died from "strategic" bombing.

In 1940, Churchill had to divert attacks from RAF airfields but he also wanted to start the bloodletting. A year had passed with little action. It was being called the "phoney war." Hitler was making generous peace offers that many Englishmen wanted to accept.

If Britain had made peace, there would not have been a Jewish holocaust.

So true that we have been living in a lie.

posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:07 PM
You never knew Britain and the U.S. wanted to kiss the but of Hitler in to thinking he wouldn't go to war? Go to any WW2 site and look at the causes to the War. Of course the West feared Communism.

posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 06:08 PM
Dunno about the rest, but that last line is untrue. Hitler would have tried to destroy Jews and other "undesirable" whether or not Britain joined the war.

posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:45 PM

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
You never knew Britain and the U.S. wanted to kiss the but of Hitler in to thinking he wouldn't go to war? Go to any WW2 site and look at the causes to the War. Of course the West feared Communism.

That link states

Adolf Hitler became Chancellor of Germany in January 1933. Almost immediately he began secretly building up Germany's army and weapons. In 1934 he increased the size of the army, began building warships and created a German airforce. Compulsory military service was also introduced.

Although Britain and France were aware of Hitler's actions, they were also concerned about the rise of Communism and believed that a stronger Germany might help to prevent the spread of Communism to the West.

and we know Prescott Bush financed Hitler here, so this is an old link of lies we learned.

As well,

Failure of the League of Nations
The League of Nations was an international organisation set up in 1919 to help keep world peace.

and we know the Leaque of Nations is now the United Nations, i.e. One World Government.

posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:53 PM

Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
Dunno about the rest, but that last line is untrue. Hitler would have tried to destroy Jews and other "undesirable" whether or not Britain joined the war.

Hitler was a funny little man found in a prison by Prescott Bush and his cronies. He was jailed for all his hooting and hollering (i.e. a great? orator) so he was taken under wing and groomed to be and do, what he was and did.

(It would take me days to find my link about the above and that 'Mein Kempf' was written by others with Hitler's input as well.)

Remember, we were raised on a history of lies!

posted on Sep, 11 2010 @ 08:56 PM
reply to post by canadiansenior70

Taking Prescott Bush out of the picture. Before the Soviet Union was founded the U.S. had troubles with numerous worker strikes. The Communist Manifesto was published on February 21, 1848. Since then there has been numerous incidents since then when there controversial protest at factories of workers. A lot of them ended ugly when police fired on them. How could you be a supporter of your government and then also be used like a dirty rag?
Really when you think about no country is perfect; let alone the U.S. But it has been showing since the founding of this country that the rich control most of the; if not all of the wealth and have control in government.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 05:50 AM
reply to post by canadiansenior70

Well perhaps this is all true if you believe the words of Adolph Hitler, a man with a known penchant for lying - "after the Sudetenland we have no interest in Czechoslovakia". A country he promptly invaded once the government was dissolved.
Churchill was a fighter and had a reputation as such but that neither makes him a warmonger nor an illuminati. Hitler NEVER offered to spare civilian targets in Britain.
Churchill saw WW2 years before it actually began. He worked tirelessly to build England's defenses to help prevent Nazi aggression. When Hitler realized the weakness of both France and England he began steps to challenge them and the treaties of Versailles and Locarno. Germany marched into the Rhineland in violation of the treaty and when he garnered no resistance he kept going - he annexed Austria through intrigue, then the Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia and the Danzig corridor. Still the Allied powers did nothing except for Mr. Chamberlains' policy of appeasement. Hitler's generals were set to overthrow him IF the allies had acted vigorously in protest, which they did not.
Churchill fought to prevent Hitler's rise to power by building England's armed forces and creating alliances to contain the Axis powers. However the majority labour party coalition thought peace was possible by negotiation and demonized Churchill, Eden and Admiral Duff Cooper among others as warmongers for their stance on national defense.
I think history has vindicated Churchill. Without his efforts Britain might have lost the war and Nazis might still be in control of Europe.
If you want to bash him you may as well call Eisenhower, MacArthur and Patton Illuminati too.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 02:12 PM
Just to clarify Hitler's opinion of England, here are his comments from the May 23, 1939 meeting he had with his General Staff:

"If there were an alliance of France, England and Russia against Germany, Italy and Japan, I should be constrained to attack France and England with a few annihilating blows. I doubt the possibility of a peaceful settlement with England. We must prepare ourselves for the conflict. England see in our development the foundation of a hegemony which would weaken her. England is, therefore, our enemy, and the conflict with England will be a life-or-death struggle."

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 02:47 PM
I believe bombing civilian targets was one of Churchill's greatest regrets - though that might be seen as spin.

I believe every world leader is accused of being Illuminati at some point. I would say Churchill would be a less likely candidate in many respects. He wasn't the favorite for the position from what I remember.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 06:47 PM
Im not entirely sure how churchil decimating german cities through strategic bombing DURING A WAR makes him a ZOMG ZOMG ILLUMINATI FREEMASON NWO SUPER SLEEPER SOLDIER SLAVE PROGRAME TOOL ZOMG ZOMG ZOMG PYRAMIDS!!!!!!!!!!

Read churchills reports as a journalist when he fought alongside soldiers in the Sudan, your opinion of him will pretty much change id wager.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 09:26 PM
reply to post by canadiansenior70
While I believe that the Illuminati exists, what criteria are used to determine whether or not someone is actually a member of the organization? I hear so much or rather so often that, such and such a person is a member.

posted on Sep, 12 2010 @ 09:28 PM
reply to post by Asktheanimals

At one time Churchill was a fan of fascism.

'Fascism has rendered a service to the entire world. ... If I were Italian, I am sure I would have been with you entirely,'

He also wanted America to join the war and had no concern for its people.

"It would be better for instance that she should be located by a U.S. ship as this might tempt her to fire on that ship, thus providing the incident for which the U.S. government would be so grateful."

"the entry of the United States into war either with Germany and Italy or with Japan, is fully conformable with British interests. Nothing in the munitions sphere can compare with the importance of the British Empire and the United States being co-belligerent."

After the U.S. had officially entered the war, on February 15, 1942, in the House of Commons, Churchill declared, of America's entry into the war: "This is what I have dreamed of, aimed at, worked for, and now it has come to pass."

Churchill also planned war crimes:

Churchill even brainstormed dropping tens of thousands of anthrax "super bombs" on the civilian population of Germany, and ordered detailed planning for a chemical attack on six major cities, estimating that millions would die immediately "by inhalation," with millions more succumbing later.

As as aside, he also committed crimes against humanity, with the gas attacks on the Iraqi people during WW1

*I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.* Henry Wilson shared Churchills enthusiasm for gas as an instrument of colonial control but the British cabinet was reluctant to sanction the use of a weapon that had caused such misery and revulsion in the First World War. Churchill himself was keen to argue that gas, fired from ground-based guns or dropped from aircraft, would cause *only discomfort or illness, but not death* to dissident tribespeople; but his optimistic view of the effects of gas were mistaken. It was likely that the suggested gas would permanently damage eyesight and *kill children and sickly persons, more especially as the people against whom we intend to use it have no medical knowledge with which to supply antidotes.*

Churchill was far from a saint. WW2 had no real heroes.

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edit on 12-9-2010 by InvisibleAlbatross because: Forgot the links

posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 01:26 AM
I'm pretty sure both Hitler and Churchill knew what was up. Wars are only mass sacrifices for their demonic gods. They all knew what was up. They just had to play their parts to make it seem "legit".

War is stupid. It is never necessary. Anybody with half a working brain can tell you that. We should never have to resort to violence. Wars will happen, though because they are necessary to keep these gods (demons) sufficiently appeased.

Wake up, people. Politics? Joke. Wars? Joke. Economics? Joke. It's all a fluke to keep us under their control and subject to their will. How much longer should we let them pretend that we are ignorant goyim that know no better? They know we are waking up by the droves.

posted on Sep, 19 2010 @ 01:40 AM
YES HE IS!!!!!

in london camden town they have a masonic museum.
His pictures are there with the masonic apron on etc..

he is part of the scottish right...the top dogs lol


OR LOOK AT THIS.........ashkeNAZI jews hmmmmm??

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