Are you a porn addict?

I like this thread and have to agree that roses and candlelight do make me fall more into the optimistic porn category.


This is just more of the same, sell meds to the masses!

Here's one for you, I think this will satiate all the posters who were mislead or letdown by the title and were hoping for something a bit more sexy...
for all the CT Players
www.belowtopsecret.com...

But it's true. Most CTs do suffer from delusions of grandeur. I'm refering to the ones who throw around hundreds of theories of which 99,99% are wrong. When one of them turns out to be correct they say: "I told you so! Stupif sheep! I was right the whole time!" while ignoring the number of his failed theories. These people do seem to get a high or a conspiragasm or something from being right about doom and gloom.
The reasonable conspiracy theorists are a minority. Unfortunately by the time we understand this it'll be already too late for us..

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from link in OP

Back in early February of 2009, Hugo Lindgren—writing for the New York Times—coined the phrase “pessimism porn,” referring to a “fantasy world of the web” where dire economic predictions are cast by self-righteous doomsayers and apocalyptic futurists. According to Lindgren, those of us who give credence to such notions are merely addicted to bad news, and have a false sense of superiority over “ all these heedless knaves who have no clue what’s coming down the pike.”

Well, I know this is the unpopular stance to take but isn't he, essentially, just telling the truth?

Of course you can suppose that Lindgren is part of a conspiracy (how fitting, lol) and is engaged in #-dipping doomsaysers.

But if you take the perspective of a non-doom believer for a moment it won't be too hard to see where these sentiments come from. If you're ever exposed to this kind of thinking found among the internet-doom boards, then you will tend to have a strong reaction to it: either you start believing every word or you will be baffled by the sheer amount of holier-than-thou-ness found on such blogs and boards. Of course you'll want to refute them, or at least react to them to come to terms with the boldness in which these visions of doom are promoted.

The belief in imminent doom of mankind or certain parts of it is one of those mythological concepts that have been a complimentary phenomenon to almost all forms of human organizations. Eventually almost every theologic, economic, social or ecological doctrine came up with some version of it; it seems to be one of those features of human thinking that automatically develops as soon as humans begin to organize and live together on a large scale. Just like Religion or the notion of Us-vs-Them is found in almost every mode of society that we know of, so is the concept of imminent, though not apparent, doom.

The Greeks, the Egyptians, the Persians, the Catholics, the Protestants, the New Agers, the Fascists, The Racists - and many, many more incorporated these lines of thinking at one time or another.

Yet here we are; living, breathing and prospering more or less after 5 thousand years of doomsaying. For some people this mere fact is evidence against the credibility of any form of doomsaying. And the argument seems quite convincing. If we know for a fact that every generation has its singular vision of imminent doom since the beginning of civilization and we also know that none of those visions of doom have come true, what is the obvious conclusion?

This is, of course, not to say that all is good and swell. But there's a certain historical record that seems to indicate that not every doomsayer is worth is salt - in fact, there's strong evidence for the notion that the fantastic, declarative and authorative strain in this tradition is the least accurate.

If you believe things to be along the lines I have pointed out above, then you will be definition react strongly to prophets of doom. After all, humans have this belief that reality is objective and therefore we should all come to the more or less same conclusions when looking at reality. If your suddenly confronted with someone whose words reject that premise by declaring doom, you're likely to have a strong reaction to it.

In fact, Lindgren only points out a feeling that I have everytime that I encounter a prediction, an "imminent warning of doom" or a "I'm an insider and know all the secrets" -themed thread on ATS.

So no, the notions expressed in the article you cite are not necessarily stated in order to demean or slander a line of thinking you seem to subscribe to. It is simply evidence of a strong reaction that I find easily explainable by taking the stance of the non-doomer for a second.

I don't believe everything is good. But I know that many a generation fooled itself into believing that "all was lost anyway" and that led to i) people missing the good times of their life ii) missed chances of bettering the situation and, most dramatic of all, iii) the total acceptance of the notion that we are doomed no matter what we do - a perfect ideology if you want to perpetuate an oligarchical elitist system into eternity.

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What a great perspective..one that I believe I share with you. To me the doom and gloom was addictive because every time something bad happened it brought me closer to being able to showcase my survival skills...pretty selfish on my part. Now I really dont mind if there are folks out there who are clueless, as a matter of fact I hope that number increases...Now I dont want EVERYBODY to know the truth...just live life and be happy, and try to be a positive influence to those you come into contact with. I mean seriously ...Why do my kids need to know that our founding fathers of the US were slavers, and slaughtered entire civilizations to establish this country, why do they need to know all of the attrocities commited in the name of freedom and religion? Why should we teach our children that "god" is really just an idea created by man to make man feel better? Answer is ...we shouldnt..We should just continue the conditioning of our youth the way that it has progressed for ccenturies. A cataclysm that causes awakening is kind of like porn I suppose. Simply a stress reliever on a larger scale. And we really dont want that. Itd be cool if everyone could be together w/o all the death and pain, disease etc.
My solution is to eliminate organized religion within our society, no clubs, no cliques, everybody judged by who they are not what church they attend or how much money they have. Wisdom would be universal if we didnt try to hide it. Believe me, people are way smarter than you might think and can handle just about anything...even the truth....Solution..easy... NO VIOLENCE....settle things with diplomacy....Sorry rambling