New Battery Tech Could Cut Electric Car Battery Pack Costs by 85%

New Battery Tech Could Cut Electric Car Battery Pack Costs by 85%

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There is much promise in the evolving world of battery technologies for many of the devices that we use every day. Better battery tech means notebooks that can operate longer per charge, cell phones we can talk on for longer, and electric cars that can travel longer distances. With all of the aspects of technology that the battery touches, a breakthrough here can have very far reaching effects.

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Portable power has been a real stumbling block for industrial countries for years. The lack of efficient, cost effective portable power has kept us chained to internal combustion engines and all of their drawbacks for over a hundred years.

The introduction of a battery that could provide the same energy for 85% less cost is a very attractive thing. I will be interested to see what comes to market...

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Hopefully it's using different materials. The sooner we can get away from Lithium Ion batteries the better. What it creates to get those batteries is nasty.

Without sounding a little off the wall to some, I have to ask, do we really think that the corporations that make our little electronic gadgets don't already possess ways in which they can sustain battery power, and perhaps the reason behind the low life batteries at this present time is solely due to profits. ie if we didn't depend on batteries and have to replace them so often there would be no profit

To back up my notion: Go to your nearest discount ship and see for yourselves pick up a cheap battery and open up the packaging then look at the battery, compare the battery with an expensive one then unravel the battery sheaths then seperate the battery tube from the plastic case you will see a visable difference

There's no question that Energizer intentionally puts out an inferior "D" rechargeable battery. If they wanted, they could make it much higher capacity, but they have apparently chosen not to. So why would a battery company put out an inferior rechargeable battery?

A little light reading in to the conspiracies of shop batteries



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I can see it now, the end of the oil empires occurring within this lifetime!!

Lets hope that these oil BUMS dont try to play their usual game of buying out these new technologies and devices as they have done throughout history.

Thats the reason we the people have NO CHOICE but to rely on OIL. Its NOT the PEOPLES fault, it is these BUMS in the oil industry that use big money to keep us dependent on their oil.

Horay for the emerging electric technologies. A cleaner world awaits for future generations.

Put the oil BUMS out of business, and clean up our planet at the same time. EXCELLENT!!!

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This is not new actually, but as usual, it is more so new old technology.

I Believe that the future as well as what they are using are called UltraCapacitors (using carbon nanotube technology) which paired with standard Li-Ion batteries for example, negate the negative aspects of the chemical dependencies associated with batteries such as:

1. slow charging and
2, Slow discharge liimited to the inherent chemical reaction of said battery and it's ability to discharge electrons.
3. Temperature sensitivities due to the inherent chemical interactions found in batteries.. which also limit performance.

Similar to Cold Cranking Amps ratings on our Car's battery and it's ability to only produce fewer amount of amps in the dead of winter.
Cold and Heat are detrimental to batteries because they are dependant upon a chemical reaction.

For example, exactly why you cannot make coffee with cold water !


With the advantages of Capacitors which characteristically charge and discharge very quickly. More electricity can be captured from the regenerative braking system for example.

When you hit the brakes in your EV or hybrid currently, you are generating a surge of power due to the kinetic energy captured from the brakes heat. Unfortunately, a battery can only accept this charge so fast due to the chemical reactions involved as well s the internal resistance to the current of the battery.

Whereas a Capacitor charges instantly. and can store this charge until the battery is ready to store it.

This is where the costs can be reduced significantly as well as making a considerably more efficient battery system.

In looking at the Chevy Volt's Lithium Ion battery pack, similar to those used in a laptop computer require having to be constantly monitored for temperature and charge levels.

In fact the Volts battery pack has an entire climate control system maintaining a constant temperature which is essential for prolonging life. Which is adding considerably to the overall cost of the battery.

This is where the saving of 85% come in.

Which is also as to why I won't buy a Volt just yet....but I will consider one in the future....


Another advantage to the use of UltraCapacitors is the fast charge/discharge rate of Capacitors.

For example....

Currently a 120V system is supported to charge the Volt's battery overnight. Using a regular transformer, Requiring about 8 hours.

A 240V system is offered as an option, which reduces the charge time by more than half but is also reliant upon a transformer.. which in giving off heat loses a fair amount of energy due to heat.

IF A bank of capacitors were to be used in conjunction with the transformer, storing considerably more voltage for example and charge the batteries even quicker using normal 120V house current via a timing circuit for example.

This will make the Electric Vehicles more useful, for you'll have much quicker charging creating fast charging filling stations and due to the rapid discharge of Capacitors a hell of a lot more passing power !




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tesla uv transmutation lithium

Lithium in compounds can be activated into generating ions,
radioactivity, as a power source.

transmute in ultraviolet light. Practically the only thing they were looking for was technology related to the atom bomb, and since Tesla had stated that so- ... Lithium is the most active of all elements, and is perhaps the most ...

Summary in top link.
So more might be found useful in lithium compounds.

Originally posted by Baloney
I can see it now, the end of the oil empires occurring within this lifetime!!

Lets hope that these oil BUMS dont try to play their usual game of buying out these new technologies and devices as they have done throughout history.

Thats the reason we the people have NO CHOICE but to rely on OIL. Its NOT the PEOPLES fault, it is these BUMS in the oil industry that use big money to keep us dependent on their oil.

Horay for the emerging electric technologies. A cleaner world awaits for future generations.

Put the oil BUMS out of business, and clean up our planet at the same time. EXCELLENT!!!

And why do you suppose if they come up with a new battery operated
car that will go forever, that we will somehow end the need for oil?
I don't understand your reasoning at all. Don't you realize that just
about everything we use in our daily lives are made from crude oil,
including the buttons on your shirt to the case around your tv to the
toothbrush you use? Yeah right, screw the oil bums. LOL

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