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Originally posted by casualtorment
Perhaps you've been listening too intently to Mr. D. Icke and his fleeting thoughts of fancy on the subject of holographic reality.
Maybe it's all real.
Maybe that's the real scary thing that too many people are afraid to face. That the hideous world that surrounds us is in fact a reality and we are not dreaming. It really is this bad!!
Originally posted by bogomil
But student X, maybe re-evaluate your thoughts on the consequences of this. You are showing a strong anthropocentric arrogance, when presenting your 'observer-created' model of existence.
Your cit: "The unknown will then take on the structure and patterns of our psyche... "
The problem is, that while e.g. mankind observes the rest of the universe, we are in turn also observed back.
This said, is doesn't invalidate your other interesting thoughts. Don't know if you're familiar with the Mahayana buddhistic reflections on 'Samsara=Nirvana'. You do know the more epistemological thoughts of RAW on this, but his opinion wasn't a relativistic 'everything goes', where all levels of 'reality'-maps could be said to be equally 'true'. He only said,
that no map is 100% true.
Originally posted by bogomil
Student X
I see, that you have been thinking about this, and as the present subject for me, in over 45 years, has grown into a pivot-point in my search for truth, I'm ofcourse happy to meet others on the same path, who don't automatically start dishing out sensationalist versions of various 'religious' or scientific hypotheses.
If you would expand more on your choice of 'biocentric' as the possible approximative correct description based on the following (if you accept it as a basis):
"If a tree falls in the forest, and there's not anybody around to listen, will there be a sound?"
Am I correct in guessing, that you have some version of the 'anthropic principle' in mind? With implications of complexity?
Your Brahman association is very valid (do you know, the jews have a parallel: Ain Soph) and at a lesser level of this limit of human understanding/experience (by just staying with cosmogony), I'm not quite sure, if what you call retrocausality is outside our grasp.
Much to my surprise, an educated guess on my part would now be, that it's the universe itself, which is a scam. A scam scam, not just a hologram or perception and/or conceptualizing deficiencies leading to inconclusive human maps.
I don't suffer from short attentionspan, so a day or two between answers don't mean, that I've lost interest. Just concentrating on quality instead of speed.
I still believe, that the seemingly gap between micro- and macro-cosmos hasn't been explained convincingly.
So, from a most politically incorrect position of 'duality', I have no doubt about, that individual, personal, small 'reality-tunnel' bubbles (the inner private landscape) play a very big macro-cosmic role. E.g. burning people for a 'purification of their souls' certainly makes an impact on the surroundings, but I suggest, that the explanation for such trigger-happy reactions to matches and piles of firewood isn't a question of truth-seeking, honest expressions of 'objective' necessity, but rather a basic existential disorder syndrome; either pathological sociopathy or a deep-rooted fear of emptiness/meaninglessness, where ideological 'straws' are defended with maniacal violence.