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Originally posted by stereologist
Velikovsky's ideas were a failure in the past and they are a failure now. He made hundreds of predictions and none of them came true for the reasons he proposed. That would make his theory an utter failure. Very few of his predictions came true. One was that Jupiter would give off radio waves. It does. The problem is that the reason for his prediction was a mechanism that is not responsible for the radio waves. His claims turned out to be completely false and were demonstrated to be false many, many times.
It was he who gave "altogether novel importance to electrical and magnetic forces in the solar system" and who "said that the earth must have a magnetosphere much stronger, and extending much further into space, than anyone else believed possible." He also "predict[ed] that Jupiter would be found to be a radio source, long before the astonished radio-astronomers found it so."
According to Velikovsky, there were all over the world, as folklore alleges, rains of burning pitch. This, among other things, led him to assert in 1950 that the clouds of Venus must be very rich in petroleum gas. All contemporary knowledge of the chemistry of the planet's clouds was flatly against it. Yet it has turned out to be so.
Originally posted by Julie Washington
Originally posted by stereologist
Velikovsky's ideas were a failure in the past and they are a failure now. He made hundreds of predictions and none of them came true for the reasons he proposed. That would make his theory an utter failure. Very few of his predictions came true. One was that Jupiter would give off radio waves. It does. The problem is that the reason for his prediction was a mechanism that is not responsible for the radio waves. His claims turned out to be completely false and were demonstrated to be false many, many times.
All of Velikovsky's ideas were NOT a failure. How can you say that?
He correctly predicted the tempurature of Venus to be hotter.
He correctly predicted radio waves from Jupiter.
It was he who gave "altogether novel importance to electrical and magnetic forces in the solar system" and who "said that the earth must have a magnetosphere much stronger, and extending much further into space, than anyone else believed possible." He also "predict[ed] that Jupiter would be found to be a radio source, long before the astonished radio-astronomers found it so."
According to Velikovsky, there were all over the world, as folklore alleges, rains of burning pitch. This, among other things, led him to assert in 1950 that the clouds of Venus must be very rich in petroleum gas. All contemporary knowledge of the chemistry of the planet's clouds was flatly against it. Yet it has turned out to be so.
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Perhaps some of his theories were off base. But at least he was thinking out of the box against mainstream scientists. And you know how difficult it is to go against the mainstream.
Galileo is a good example.
Just totally dismissing his work is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
And how does your post contribute anything to the thread? It's just disinfo and incorrect info. It's really getting tiring here on ATS when someone just comes in and pops off something on their keyboard with nothing constructive to contribute, as you seem to do quite often.
He correctly predicted the tempurature of Venus to be hotter.
He correctly predicted radio waves from Jupiter.
He also predicted (and quite extraordinarily at that!) that Venus would have a hydrocarbon atmosphere. He was right about that too.
The main atmospheric gases on Venus are carbon dioxide and nitrogen. Other chemical compounds are present only in trace amounts.
calling them a fraud without viewing their stuff. That ain't being a scientist.