Change -- STOP IT NOW

Obama Is a word in spell check that I will NEVER add, it does not belong in any “Correct” language with the “CHANGE” he has brought to U.S. it is now the “Oministration”.

The first misspelled word above and his “Change” Administration have taken over and have at their hands control of Healthcare, Industry, Finance and Shelter.

All that remains is the ENERGY, WATER & FOOD supply.

Control the People and self-perpetuate government greed and expense.

Legislation PROPOSED: they are cramming down our throats again and creating more things we can't afford and trying to control all business is “Socialist”. PERIOD

Energy: “Cap and Trade” now called “Energy Reform” will bankrupt the country. Can you afford more on your energy bill? It will control “Shelter” or Housing by requiring you to have a permit to sell your home that proves your home’s energy efficiency.

Water: “Clean water restoration act of 2009, will force any waters on land subject to EPA control by removing the word “Navigable”

FOOD: Food Modernization Safety Act. You have to look closely at that one to see it. Go see for yourself.

FDA Head is Ex-Monsanto. Got Seeds? And can you use them?

1. Investors have bought up large tracts of ag land, with the sole purpose of collecting subsidies to not grow anything. Subsidies then pay for the land & taxes, and they get to sit on a real estate investment for free, until a profitable sale can be realized.


SHIPPING: Railway and transportation act with the “Brown Bailout”.


Reform is what they call these now, they will change the name and meaning as they go. PLEASE MAKE THEM “GO” GOVERNMENT NEEDS THE REFORM!!!!

Health “Care”: is an oxymoron – Now referred to by the O’ministration as a “Tax”

INDUSTRY: Bailout –Banks, Auto, Finance

Shelter: was locked down during and the people are still enduring this "Mortgage Crisis". And those in charge of it are now “Key advisors” in part of this “CHANGE”


Freedom -- Check out the H.R. 5741 from the Rangel "Change" Man

Govtrack it

Peace -- Santa Claws is "Comin' to See You"

Originally posted by SANTA CLAWS
FDA Head is Ex-Monsanto. Got Seeds? And can you use them?

That's not an Obama-exclusive happening, that's actually been going on for years, it's referred to as "The Revolving Door". Lot's of ex-Monsanto guys (and gals) will join the higher ranks of the FDA, and FDA people will end up with jobs at Monsanto.

The stopping of the change will begin during midterms....2012 will see the end of the Obama fiasco. Lets just hope we can make it till then.

What a mess!
Voting out Obama is just the begining...We got alot of work to do on both sides of the isle in order to fix this country.

[edit on 5-8-2010 by Daytomann]

"Obama is a socialist" Thread #582,947,296 containing a mish mash of debunked ramblings typical of a Beckhead or Rush junkie. And as always:

* NO supporting evidence

* NO colorful graphs

* NO links

* NO facts

* NO new material

My god, will you people please get another hobby? This is not your best use of your talents. May I suggest masturbating with your gun oil to a poster of Sarah Palin??

Obama Is a word in spell check that I will NEVER add

I am sure he'll be crushed by your sophisticated dis. (That reminds me to add his name to the spell check.)

his “Change” Administration have taken over and have at their hands control of Healthcare, Industry, Finance and Shelter.

...and they are demanding in return.....one million dollars!! (pinky points at bottom lip)
So, let me see if I understand you. Obama and his administration have completely taken over these sectors, and the millions of people that work in these areas as well as the management and CEOs have no say anymore? WOW! They must be really powerful and very smart, huh?

All that remains is the ENERGY, WATER & FOOD supply.

That's all that remain? Are you sure? Can't think of any others? Who are you, Captain Caveman?

Legislation PROPOSED: they are cramming down our throats again and creating more things we can't afford and trying to control all business is “Socialist”. PERIOD

Incoherent stream of partial thoughts surrounded by a cloud of delusional posturings. And there is that "cramming down our throats" phrase again. You people wear that saying out! Try a new one like "force you to suck on it", or maybe, "force you to swallow it all down".

Energy: “Cap and Trade” now called “Energy Reform” will bankrupt the country.

Do you have any supporting evidence written by an economist or professor of mathematical studies in Princeton? Why hell no you don't. What a shocker.

Can you afford more on your energy bill? It will control “Shelter” or Housing by requiring you to have a permit to sell your home that proves your home’s energy efficiency.

This has been debunked over and over. Read more, it really does help with ignorance.
Politifact has given it a "Pants on Fire" rating.

Water: “Clean water restoration act of 2009, will force any waters on land subject to EPA control by removing the word “Navigable”

AWWWW! A swing and a miss! Already debunked:
www.nytimes.com...

FOOD: Food Modernization Safety Act. You have to look closely at that one to see it. Go see for yourself.

I have and it seems all warm and fuzzy to me. Saw nothing sinister in it.
Here is a list of myths for the misinformed. You must get all you info from chain emails.

FDA Head is Ex-Monsanto.

Yes. That is a little disturbing.....and not true, yet, but he is being considered. Here is a good thread for you to try that has truth to it.

1. Investors have bought up large tracts of ag land, with the sole purpose of collecting subsidies to not grow anything. Subsidies then pay for the land & taxes, and they get to sit on a real estate investment for free, until a profitable sale can be realized.

I tried to google this one and I can't even find where you read this crap. A link perhaps? No? Oh, well, in that case it's crap.

SHIPPING: Railway and transportation act with the “Brown Bailout”.

Total bunk: www.factcheck.org...

Health “Care”: is an oxymoron – Now referred to by the O’ministration as a “Tax”

That's right moocher. America was getting tired of supporting uninsured lazy losers who were getting a free ride in emergency rooms off the backs of insured taxpayers. Just like we were tired of uninsured motorist crashing our cars.

INDUSTRY: Bailout –Banks, Auto, Finance

This is not even a complete sentence, much less a complete thought. Pop another Ritalin and try again.

Shelter: was locked down during and the people are still enduring this "Mortgage Crisis". And those in charge of it are now “Key advisors” in part of this “CHANGE”

We are all well aware of what happened with the mortgage bubble and who was to blame. It wasn't Obama or any of his advisers.

Freedom -- Check out the H.R. 5741 from the Rangel "Change" Man

Oh you mean the "Slave Bill"? You will not have to worry about that...

SEC. 106. EXAMINATION AND CLASSIFICATION OF PERSONS.
(a) Examination- Every person subject to induction under this title shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service.

...you'll never make it.

Santa Claws is "Comin' to See You"

Already debunked like when I was six.

[edit on 6-8-2010 by 12GaugePermissionSlip]

reply to post by PieKeeper

That's not an Obama-exclusive happening, that's actually been going on for years

Quite true, however if there is a "plan" it would seem to be moving forward exponentially.
Coming to a point of culmination, you might say.

To the OP, agreed. The people must be made aware at all costs, even if it means yelling on the street corner, wearing a giant cardboard sign, and holding a bell.......

I was recently made aware through another poster here of a movie trailer called Run Away Slave in which the speaker pleads with the audience "Tell me why you are great!?" "Is it because of the government, or because of The People!?" He goes on to say something to the effect of, "You're not free because of Republicans!" "You're not free because of Democrats!" (pointing up, to capital hill, he says) "We LEND them our power!!"

Acting now in much the same way as an adolescent child, the federal government was the creation of the states, and thereby the collective will of the people. Every child at some point becomes "too big for their britches". The question that remains, is will "Dad and Mom" put the child in their place...I say that if that power is used against our best interest, then by god we take it back.

We have got to stop putting millionaires into office, you think those type of people give two ****'s about the working folks, or the poor? As a general rule I have to say no, they do not. Somehow, it is generally taboo to want to actively discuss politics, because no one wants to be thought of as a politician. There is a stigma of inherent corruption involved with the title. Yet here we are, still hiring professional politicians to run our country!



Ok, now on to 12GaugePermissionSlip.

"Obama is a socialist" Thread #582,947,296 containing a mish mash of debunked ramblings typical of a Beckhead or Rush junkie.

My god, will you people please get another hobby? This is not your best use of your talents. May I suggest masturbating with your gun oil to a poster of Sarah Palin??

Have you ever once attempted to make your point while being constructive, and not demeaning? Are you even capable of civil debate, or do you just enjoy being a troll?
At least one of your sources for debunking is highly suspect as well, as they have close political ties with the current administration. Or were you not aware of the connection between President Obama and William Ayers? Lemme guess, that one's debunked by factcheck, too..

Do you have any supporting evidence written by an economist or professor of mathematical studies in Princeton? Why hell no you don't. What a shocker.

Because obviously we need the Great and Powerful OZ to explain it all for us! Not one of us is capable of reading and comprehension! Whatever would we do without our masters err....our betters..err... The Professionals! Personally I do not require any other person to form my opinions for me.

While for the most part your evidence is well thought out, you have no sense of civility. I suggest you use honey, as the vinegar doesn't seem to be working out too well.

If however, you think that the systematic removal of wealth and economic power from the general populace is accidental, i'd say you are blind. If you truly believe that it is a good thing, and the "change" is the best thing since sliced bread, I would have to say you are a fool.

reply to post by 12GaugePermissionSlip


I think you need to learn the lingo in order to interpret this post.

reply to post by blood0fheroes

or do you just enjoy being a troll?

No I don't enjoy it. And I don't enjoy folks coming in here making a mockery of this site with junk laden threads. If this were a alien board and he came on talking about aliens are ALL evil and claimed he read it in a chain email, I would be pissed about that too.

Or were you not aware of the connection between President Obama and William Ayers?

Yes I am highly aware of the "connection". And yes, so is Factcheck.org:
"Groundless, False, Dubious"www.factcheck.org...

Personally I do not require any other person to form my opinions for me.

Unless you're an economist or professor of math your opinions are just that; opinions. I have my own opinions about rocketry, but since I admittedly KNOW very little about rocketry, I will leave it to rocket scientist "professionals" to tell me what to think.

If however, you think that the systematic removal of wealth and economic power from the general populace is accidental, i'd say you are blind.

No my eyes are wide open, but that "removal of wealth and economic power from the general populace" didn't come from Obama. As a matter of fact it came from 30 + years of republican policies of enriching the already rich. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

P.S. Screw your damn honey.

reply to post by 12GaugePermissionSlip


*ETA*

Unless you're an economist or professor of math your opinions are just that; opinions.

Again, the missed point was that So are theirs! Just because they are the "professionals" doesnt give their opinion any more merit than mine or yours. Each of us is fully capable of studying, and reasoning the underlying cause/effect scenario.

Yes I am highly aware of the "connection". And yes, so is Factcheck.org: "Groundless, False, Dubious"www.factcheck.org...

Ok wow....that's about as wise as using the bible to validate the bible. "Of course it's all true! See? Right here?! It says so!"

No my eyes are wide open, but that "removal of wealth and economic power from the general populace" didn't come from Obama. As a matter of fact it came from 30 + years of republican policies of enriching the already rich. Anyone who believes otherwise is a fool.

Here is where you completely missed the point, im afraid. Repubocrat or Demlican....they are all professional politicians, playing for the same team! If you took the NY Yankees and put half the team in a blue uniform and the other half in a gray one, are they not still all the scum of the earth?

The overall point was that regardless of the veracity of your claims, unless you can present them without intentionally insulting people you will never change anyones mind.

P.S. Screw your damn honey.

As interesting as that might feel, I think i'll pass.



[edit on 6-8-2010 by blood0fheroes]

jyeah jyeah,its easy to just come here and say "there is no fact in any of these thread,and no evidence!" yea sure man,like going into an ufo thread and saying its a chinese lantern,there is no evidence of ugos whatsoever! by evidence you need the aliens to come in your face and speak to you,or some swat team to march into your house and move you to fema camp?

your country is bankrupting at the moments,its even more horrible then before,it wasnt that bad when bush was in charge,your beloved president also was in a tv commercial,xaaxaxax yea thats not shamefull at all.

reply to post by Stillalive

there is no evidence of ugos whatsoever!

No, it's a fact that Yugos do in fact exist. Zastava Koral is a basic eastern European car. I don't think that anyone can deny that Yugos in fact do exist.

But that's not the point of this thread. This thread is about how that evil socialist/communist/Muslim/etc Obama is destroying the universe with (GASP!) CHANGE (shudder)

Because things were so peachy with that whole trickle down economic scheme that Reagan devised.

Originally posted by SANTA CLAWS
Obama Is a word in spell check that I will NEVER add, it does not belong in any “Correct” language with the “CHANGE” he has brought to U.S. it is now the “Oministration”.

Obama has delivered what he promised. You have your "change".

It's not his fault nobody bothered to ask him if it was going to be good or bad.

But don't feel bad for being so naive. Here in Australia, the Prime Minister is using "moving forward". No one is asking if there is a cliff in front of us...

reply to post by whatukno

This thread is about how that evil socialist/communist/Muslim/etc Obama is destroying the universe with (GASP!) CHANGE (shudder) Because things were so peachy with that whole trickle down economic scheme that Reagan devised.

From what i've seen and the people I talk to, the one's who still cling to the democrat side of the two headed snake that is our current political paradigm are about the only ones who fail to see that the whole "angry tea party" thing was not created because of the current administration, it simply carried over into it.

Here's an analogy for the way the current administration is being viewed.

A woman (the people of the u.s.) meets a man (bush administration) who winks at her. She smiles, maybe even flirts back a little. The man then follows her home and rapes her. How do you suppose that woman will react to the next man (obama administration) who winks at her, and follows her home?

Personally this is why I favor peaceful revolution, by getting rid of all the lobbyists, and the professional politicians. All of em. Even the very few who are there with good intentions. Every last one needs to go; Do not pass go, Do not collect your lifetime all-expenses-paid-pension.

These folks suck entirely too much out of the american people. There was a reason that originally congress was only in session a few times a year; that was because those people had jobs! They actually contributed to the economy instead of just sucking the marrow from it's bones. Which of us had any say in any of the pay raises for congress, hmm? Oh thats right, congress decides for themselves that they need a pay raise, and by how much. I guess that little tidbit is never important enough to ask the common folks about...

We need to completely restructure the way we hire people to run our country. At the very least we could demand that the debates be re-opened to any who wish to participate, not just the ones that the Repubocrats collectively approve of. I mean really? Can you even call it an honest debate when the only disagreement is over trivial matters? When everything else is in assumed agreement because no one even talks about it?

It's all a bit too comical really. One side says "rabble rabble raise taxes!" The other side says "rabble rabble lower taxes!" Neither of which will solve anything, anymore than a band-aid can "solve" a sucking chest wound! Heres an idea: Line item taxes. Let each person decide for themselves where they want their tax money spent, and how much of the product of their labor they are willing to give to government. I'd be willing to bet this would dissolve all illusions as to "how different we all are" in our viewpoints. In short it would have the effect of showing to each what we all have in common. " No way, man! I support funding for rebuilding infrastructure and fixing pot-holes too! Thats crazy!" "How come we never knew this about each other!?"

Im sure you can see where im going with this. Hell, it could even completely redefine the idea of "keeping up with the Jones' " "Well I heard from Tom that Dick and Harry, you know the gay couple down the street? Well they've been so well off that they gave over $500 in taxes to the state education department!" "Suzy and I only gave half that...."

Heh, I can dream, can't I?

Oh, and cute video up there, ^ by the way. I like how it completely ignored the fact that the only reason health insurance premiums are at an ever increasing maximum, thus coming between the patient and the doctor, is due to government intervention into the free market in the mid 60's.

Originally posted by blood0fheroes

Unless you're an economist or professor of math your opinions are just that; opinions.

Again, the missed point was that So are theirs! Just because they are the "professionals" doesnt give their opinion any more merit than mine or yours. Each of us is fully capable of studying, and reasoning the underlying cause/effect scenario.

Is that for real? You actually think your opinion on the economy has the same merit as a professional economist? Do you feel that way about all professions? I mean like lawyers and judges and scientists? Doctors?

reply to post by mythatsabigprobe


Why yes, yes I do. particularly when it's a subject I am versed in. There is a big difference between opinions and facts. When it comes to facts I never argue a case I know nothing about. I will listen intently, then do my own research on the subject, and from there decide if I do or do not agree with the conclusions that were drawn from the source of the subject i was previously ignorant of.

To some people, this peculiar technique is called "learning". Sorry for the sarcasm, but I cannot fathom why anyone would take anything that anyone says at face value, and just assume "well they know better than I do". Thats just plain lazy. More to the point, I say that your opinion has as much merit as mine and theirs....See where im going with this?

In the words of the late George Carlin: "Here we are, an airplane full of grown adults, many of us partially educated....and they are describing to us the intricate workings of a belt buckle...."

Yes I know it can be difficult, but with patience we all can realize that we have the vast potential to think for ourselves.

[edit on 6-8-2010 by blood0fheroes]

"Obama is out there praising himself for 9.5% unemployment, foreclosures, and bankruptcies. So here is the deal: If you like where the economy is and you want more of it, vote Democrat." Rush Limbaugh

"Let Obama invoke Bush all he wants. George W. Bush had 52 straight months of job creation." Rush Limbaugh

Say what you will about Limbaugh, but he had Obama pegged from the beginning. I would like to think that a majority of Rush listeners didn't fall for the lame "Hope and Change" fiasco.

In Grand Junction Colorado near I 70 is a auto-body repair facility and on their lighted sign it reads:

We will remove vote for change bumper stickers for free.

Ah, if it were only that easy.

Originally posted by Carseller4
"Obama is out there praising himself for 9.5% unemployment, foreclosures, and bankruptcies. So here is the deal: If you like where the economy is and you want more of it, vote Democrat." Rush Limbaugh

He should be praised for putting the breaks on the runaway train. The last thing we needed was another president to look blankly into the camera and say "What recession". Is the situation we are currently in ideal? No they are not. He has been in office for little over a year and managed to keep us from sinking any further which isn't the easiest thing to do when half the government decides to not be a part of the process and tries like hell to stop him from making any progress whatsoever. I will tell you that sounds like a party that has their mind on the next election cycle and not what is in my best interests. Anyone who thought things would magically change for the better when he took the oath of office clearly do not do much thinking.

"Let Obama invoke Bush all he wants. George W. Bush had 52 straight months of job creation." Rush Limbaugh

So lets see Bush had 8 years in office so for 4 1/3 years of those 8 years he had job creation continuously. Unfortunately for the American public they were Walmart jobs. Yeah praise be to George W Bush for giving us minimum wage jobs to replace the ones he shipped off to all those countries he signed free trade agreements with while he was in office.

Say what you will about Limbaugh, but he had Obama pegged from the beginning. I would like to think that a majority of Rush listeners didn't fall for the lame "Hope and Change" fiasco.

The only thing Good ole Rush had pegged was the top of his pill bottle to his mouth. And I do not even like Obama all that much but I can see and acknowledge when someone is doing a solid job with the tools they have been given to do it with. If you do not like the policies that he and Congress are passing maybe its time you quit listening to Rush and call your representatives and tell them to get involved in the process, just saying no and shutting the government down to sabotage the Administration and by default the country is not what you sent them there to do.