God Doesn't Have a Religion

reply to post by Annee


Very interesting, but what you are saying sounds remarkably similar to some accounts or "claims" of civilisations on Mars, a civilisation that has either developed underground or has had to migrate there due to Sunlight reasons.

I will source one of the "whistleblowers" i heard this from although i still lack the conviction of evidence to put my belief in his stories. Andrew D Basagio - i've heard a 5 hour interview with him. Some remarkble stories, your visionaries of this civilisation seems to mirror some of the claims made by him and other whistleblowers alike.Maybe you may be interested.

That has really taken me aback. As i have heard many reports of this, not that i believe them. Just seems quite co-incidental, TOO co-incidental. You have really suprised me i have to say.



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I still Love the Venus Project. Is it perfect? NO. Does it need to be worked through in practical application? YES.

However - I lean toward some form of Modern Socialism. I call it Modern Socialism - - to separate it from what many conceive as socialist history - which in most cases is not Socialism at all.

I am realistic. I do not think we will have Peace without fighting for it. I don't think we can have Peace without control. Unless some Benevolent ET enters our existence and demands it through mind control.

All the Light Workers can freak out about using the term Mind Control - - but that's actually what they are referring to (in a way - not exactly). Let's be real. Increasing positive energy - evolving into higher vibrations - etc.

People fear a Police State - - how about a Peacekeeper State?

All people are not going to be all Love & Peace. I suppose we can have segregated communities. Uh - isn't that what we've been trying to undo for generations?

Don't get me wrong on the Light Workers - - I'm totally with that. But that is Energy based - - Earth and Humans are physical based - - with Energy Consciousness.

There is a difference. I will not live in an unreality while here.

Originally posted by awake_and_aware
reply to post by Annee

 

Very interesting, but what you are saying sounds remarkably similar to some accounts or "claims" of civilisations on Mars, a civilisation that has either developed underground or has had to migrate there due to Sunlight reasons.

I will source one of the "whistleblowers" i heard this from although i still lack the conviction of evidence to put my belief in his stories. Andrew D Basagio - i've heard a 5 hour interview with him. Some remarkble stories, your visionaries of this civilisation seems to mirror some of the claims made by him and other whistleblowers alike.Maybe you may be interested.

That has really taken me aback. As i have heard many reports of this, not that i believe them. Just seems quite co-incidental, TOO co-incidental. You have really suprised me i have to say.

Interesting.

I really may have to read more - - one of these days.

Originally posted by prophecywatcher
But not believing in heaven and hell could be a dangerous thing. If it exists, believing could keep you out of it. In my opinion, its better to be safe than sorry.

Should fear be the ruler of my life? Fear leads to the dark side...

Originally posted by scratchmane

Originally posted by prophecywatcher
But not believing in heaven and hell could be a dangerous thing. If it exists, believing could keep you out of it. In my opinion, its better to be safe than sorry.

Should fear be the ruler of my life? Fear leads to the dark side...

This is really a reply to prophecy watcher...I couldnt trace down his posts....

If you are believing in something to be rather safe then sorry....is your intent true? Is that real faith?

Would a perfect creator really expect us to base faith on pure belief in something we cant see? Would a perfect plan really work in such a way that the creator is counting on man to throw logic to the way side and depend on another mans word to be truth, when its known that man is imperfect and flawed?

I would think a perfect creator....would expect you to think about that, use critical thinking, maybe by following another mans words, show the creator just what it needs to see...that you are not seeking within and you are not truly seeking thee.

Not that you would 'be denied heaven' but be offered what you are in need of to become that humble seeker, so you can then 'feel' the spirit literally, 'know' there is something divine within you and of you, experience for yourself, WHY the spirit would not want or need you to listen to another man for truth.

The Spirit may need to know if you have started to learn how to discern between things of earth and things of spirit...and things like the bible and religions could be a tool the spirit uses to weigh and measure what we still need and what we are ready for....in a unconditional loving way....over a 'simply obey' way.

reply to post by SunIsSon


Sun, you raise a good point. No one knows what God really is and some would agree with your sentiment that maybe there is no God. For me, it's easy. As I have done much in search of enlightenment, I have learned a few important discoveries about God. First, we are all part of the creator and therefore all one. Second, we are the experience of one small part trying to learn in this physical realm. Third, I know there is a God because I see God's creation everywhere. If you need proof, you need only open your senses and experience God. The Earth itself is an amazingly beautiful entity which is but one expression. How many times have you been "wowed" by things you've seen? ...all part of the creation. And just because bad things happen doesn't mean that there isn't a God and that God just "let it happen". The bad comes with the good BY DESIGN, which is another problem area for defining what God is. Religion likes to define anything misunderstood or perceived as bad as evil. What if the idea of evil itself is a human definition for things misunderstood? That's right. We know that there is bad in the world/universe, but what if you realized that these bad things had real purpose for the intention of a souls evolution? Not so evil now is it? We learn most from the bad things that happen.

I don't believe that God wants religion. I also don't believe that God even wants us to "worship" ; especially in the manner of organized religion. How egotistical is that to believe that an almighty must have recognition and praise for all that is done or provided??? I believe that what God DOES want is gratitude. Think about it. How powerful is a "Thank you"? To live in gratitude is to live in Peace & Harmony with God's intent for our existence. It's simple and personal. If everyone made their personal connection to the creator, the world would be a much better place. ...not that there wouldn't be anything bad, just much kinder & peaceful.

In discussions such as this, I hope that it inspires people to challenge what they know. By not holding tight to beliefs, you open yourself to incredible discoveries. This is why I live by "I am open to everything and attached to nothing". I know what I believe, but until the truth is revealed I do not supremely "KNOW".

Peace.

There is no God, the universe/existence doesn't require God to explain it's emergence. It's simply a human creation that came about because of our need for explanations.

God has and always will be the God of the gaps.

May God B-Less,

Peace,

A&A

That's such a good point - God doesn't have a religion, why should we?

Originally posted by Mary Rose
God also does not have gender. God is an "it."

I started this thread over two years ago, but something made it pop into my head today. Probably the Red Ice Radio interview I listened to this morning about people being diagnosed schizophrenic when in reality they're more enlightened than the rest of us ("Seth Farber & Paul Levy - Hour 1 - The Spiritual Gift of Madness").

Suppose I'm right that God is an it.

How, then, would we talk about God?

Would it make sense to say, "This is God's plan for the universe. Its plan is being revealed to us."

reply to post by Mary Rose


Religion equals if I do this or that then God will do this or that. Where as relationship with God is an entirerly differnt story all together.

Originally posted by guitarplayer
Religion equals if I do this or that then God will do this or that.

As in fear of reprisals?

I just read a passage that made me think of this thread.

It's in the book How Quantum Activism Can Save Civilization: A Few People Can Change Human Evolution by Amit Goswami, Ph.D., Chapter 1 - "Scientific Evidence for Spirituality Is Here, So
What Are You Doing about It?":

Science has discovered spirituality: there is now a logically consistent scientific theory of God and spirituality based on quantum physics and the primacy of consciousness (the idea that consciousness, not matter, is the ground of all being). And there is replicated experimental data in support of the theory. In other words, although still largely unsung in the media, we now have a viable science of spirituality that is threatening a paradigm shift from today's matter-based science that exclusively encourages materiality (Goswami 2008a). You can call the new science a science of God, but you don't have to. In the new science, there is no God that is an almighty emperor doling out judgments on us; instead, there is a pervasive intelligence that is also the creative agent of consciousness that you can call God if you want to. But this God is objective; it is scientific.

Amit Goswami. How Quantum Activism Can Save Civilization: A Few People Can Change Human Evolution (Kindle Locations 60-65). Kindle Edition.

Originally posted by Mary Rose
I didn't figure this out myself. I heard Stewart Swerdlow say it a few years ago.

I was reminded of this thread this morning, because I heard Swerdlow repeat his statement "God doesn't have a religion" in this video:

originally posted by: Mary Rose

We don't need organized, man-made religion. We need to connect to each other after first connecting to that universal life force, which is God.

Is it possible for individuals to have a sense of that, without an authority figure saying it?

I have a thread, "Santos Bonacci Regarding Organized Religion," which points out the abuses of the authority figures supported by Rockefeller, New World Order agenda pushing, organized religious institutions.

This thread perfectly complements that thread: God doesn't have a religion.

But that doesn't mean there is no God - or Source, or fill-in-the-blank.

originally posted by: pro-all
Congrats for figuring out one of the truths in life. Commonsense would tell one that "God" has no religion. If it were true, then the different sects in religion could be said to be a souce of conflict intentioned by God. The main issue here is that people are completely at sea about the concept of God. Dont forget that before the bible, people still mentioned God. My own position is that it is impossible to know what God is, though we are told by christianity that he created us in his own image. No one has come with an explanation of what this means. If God created he, she and it, he can be none of them. As an aside, what have you done now to counter your baptism? I hear atheists are using hair dryer to undo it. You can get some for less than $7.

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Firstly God is plural. In two dimensions the existence is as three. In three dimensions four and so on. In the ancient days Water, Fire and Earth were used to define the three aspects in two dimensions. If you want to know what God can be represented as plot the following in polar and cartesian coordinates: -(t^0.5)(M-1/Mt^2) where t is theta or x and M is a constant to represent God. I use 0.704. Run it to theta=100pi and the axes running from 0 to 10. It's like a kid's drawing of an adult with no body, but it's a starting point.
God created the Sons and Daughters of God in the Image of God. At that point God had only created man in Their Image. (Imagination). God created man later in the dirt and woman from a rib. For some reason religious leaders have failed to notice that man is singular yet in Genesis 1:27 God created them. Their image and the Image of God are also different things. Finally Genesis 1:27 is a section short. There should be added 'Were created They Sons and Daughters' all in the plural. Adam and Eve were one of each.

It's all in the Bible. You're just not reading it right.

My interpretation of Monotheism

God is the force of all creation. God is a force of Good . God is not bad because bad does not create. Bad destroys . God is good because God creates . God is moving forward and bad moves backwards.

God can not have a faith or religion . Only physical beings with advanced minds can have religion. We are the only ones that we know of now that understand that somthing can not come from nothing

This thread was posted in 2010.

I've stumbled across it, because I worry a lot about we the people being handicapped in our fight against tyranny worldwide because of the divisiveness of religion.

We can't afford to be divided!

A man needs to know where he is going, the direction in his life he is aware of, that is faith, the evidence of things unseen. A man of faith, a man who knows where he is going.

I've studied Religious Texts from a lot of Cultures, and they all have the same things in common.

The importance of Peaceful and Right Conduct, for starters, and the concepts of a Peaceful and Wrathful Diety(ies).

It's pretty Universal in Theology Studies.