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Let's Try Mexico's Immigration Law!

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posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:00 PM
In the wake of Mexico's president lambasting the latest passage of Arizona's Senate Bill 1070, I thought it would be interesting to have a look at what his country has to offer to those who are in HIS country illegally. Enjoy! Apologies in advance if this has been posted elsewhere.

From Source:

We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. [1] Now let's look at Mexico's main immigration law.

Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:

•Foreigners are admitted into Mexico "according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress." (Article 32)

•Immigration officials must "ensure" that "immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents. (Article 34)

•Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets "the equilibrium of the national demographics," when foreigners are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when "they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy." (Article 37)

•The Secretary of Governance may "suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest." (Article 38)

Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:

•Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)

•A National Population Registry keeps track of "every single individual who comprises the population of the country," and verifies each individual's identity. (Articles 85 and 86)

•A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).

Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:

•Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)

•Foreigners who sign government documents "with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses" are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)

Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:

•Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)

•Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)

•Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico -- such as working with out a permit -- can also be imprisoned.

Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,

•"A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally." (Article 123)

•Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)

•Foreigners who "attempt against national sovereignty or security" will be deported. (Article 126)

Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:

•A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)

•Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132)

[edit on 28-4-2010 by solarstorm]

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:06 PM
Mexican government has no say in how we the Citizens of the USA enforce our laws. They need to start stepping up to the plate and offer their citizens jobs in fighting the drug problem they have.

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:10 PM
I agree with you on this
But I can see that either this thread will be ignored or you will have them knocking your source. It's all kind of funny when people want stricter enforcement of laws yet when it comes up they complain. Illegal immigrants are criminals. After that nonsense w/the cartels at that border town threatening children just shows how much the Mexican gov't has it's act together and why we need to do something about illegals!

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:11 PM
As far as anything that Mexico has to say, it's pure hypocrisy and frankly I think they are mostly upset that now they are going to have to deal with the problem on their own soil, rather than simply watching them cross and letting us deal with it. Plus, Mexico makes a lot of money off of their citizens that work in the US and bring home the cash to Mexico. Their government and police are known to be rather corrupt. Certainly closing off the border is not going to please Mexico in the least. They have nothing to gain from stopping illegal crossers.

The United States has *some* of the more lenient immigration laws in the world, and in judging Arizona's attempt at curbing the problem, one must always remember two things:

-- Had the Federal Government been enforcing the laws we currently have regarding illegal immigrants, the states would not / should not have to do anything more

-- Arizona is at a crisis point. It was only a couple of months or so ago that they found more than 10 - 12 people dead in a house. That has to be a rather abrupt wake-up call to the local government.

Prevention would have been the best solution all the way around.

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:53 PM
Well I say we just send a bill to the president of Mexico for all the expenses we spend on the criminal trespassers that suck up tax-dollars like a vacuum.

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 12:54 PM

Mexican Visas and Immigration

Like many industrialized nations, Mexico has a comprehensive legal and statutory Immigration Policy affecting Mexicans and foreign nationals.

This guide gives an overview of the Mexican immigration system and outlines the principal visas and options open to persons seeking to visit Mexico for leisure, for retirement, for living, working as well as those seeking permanent residence in Mexico or Mexican Citizenship.

What is Mexico's Immigration Policy?
Mexico's General Law of Population sets out the rights and obligations of foreigners, as well as the different statuses associated with foreign immigration.

Types of Immigrant Permits
There are two kinds of permit: Non-Immigrant and Immigrant:

Non Immigrant Permits are for people who intend to visit Mexico for a specific purpose and then depart;
Immigrant Permits are for people who wish to gain permanent residence in Mexico.
Applying for Mexican Visas
You may apply for your visa(s) in person, or you may hire a representative to advise you, make the application on your behalf and do all of the paperwork.

FM2 - The Immigrant Visa
FM2 visas are intended for people seeking permanent residency status in Mexico or those seeking eventual Mexican Citizenship.

There are various categories under which FM2 visas are granted, and these relate to the activities you intend to undertake while in Mexico. Under the terms of the FM2, you are authorized to only undertake certain, specific activities which may be lucrative or non-lucrative.

You must hold a FM2 for a qualifying period* before you may apply for "immigrant" status or Mexican Citizenship.

You do not need to have held a FM3 visa before applying for a FM2, and any years you may have accrued while living in Mexico under the auspice of a FM3 permit do not count towards your FM2 qualification period.

If your goal is to seek long-term residency in Mexico, or to become a Mexican Citizen, you should apply for FM2 status (or request a change of status from FM3 to FM2) so that your time starts counting towards the qualification period as soon as possible.

You may apply for a FM2 visa while in Mexico and in possession of a FMM (Tourist/Business Visitors Visa) or a FM3.

Following the qualification period, you may apply for full resident status. When your full residence status has been accepted, you are entitled to full rights (e.g. access to IMSS sickness pay) and responsibilities (e.g. pay income taxes) as any other Mexican Citizen. Naturalized citizens are also allowed to vote in Mexican elections.

When your full residence status has been accepted, you may also begin your application for Mexican Citizenship, although you do not have to do this; you can remain a 'resident alien' on a FM2 visa indefinitely.

Upon receiving immigrated status, you will receive a document that looks like a Mexican Passport (called a "FM2") -- newer versions look like a driver's license -- which enables you pass through Mexico's borders as if you were a Mexican National.

You do not, under Mexican law, need to surrender your national passport -- whether you remain a resident-alien or apply for citizenship -- which you'll use when you return to your home country: either for visits, or when returning home to dwell. You home country's policies may require you to surrender your passport and/or citizenship; check with your local authorities for details.

If you hold a FM2 visa and stay outside of Mexico for longer than 2 years, or for 5 years in any 10 year period, you will lose your permanent resident status in Mexico.

*Qualifying periods vary depending on your circumstances. Seek advice from an immigration lawyer about this matter.

Article 30. Mexican nationality is acquired by birth or by naturalization:

Mexicans by birth are:
Those born in the territory of the Republic, regardless of the nationality of their parents:
Those born in a foreign country of Mexican parents; of a Mexican father and a foreign mother; or of a Mexican mother and an unknown father;
Those born on Mexican vessels or airships, either war or merchant vessels.
Mexicans by naturalization are:
Foreigners who obtain letters of naturalization from the Secretariat of Foreign Relations;
A foreign woman who marries a Mexican man and has or establishes her domicile within the national territory.


Article 33. Foreigners are those who do not possess the qualifications set forth in Article 30. They are entitled to the guarantees granted by Chapter I, Title I, of the present Constitution; but the Federal Executive shall have the exclusive power to compel any foreigner whose remaining he may deem inexpedient to abandon the national territory immediately and without the necessity of previous legal action.

Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.

[edit on 28-4-2010 by HappilyEverAfter]

posted on Apr, 28 2010 @ 04:58 PM

Originally posted by ReVoLuTiOn76
Well I say we just send a bill to the president of Mexico for all the expenses we spend on the criminal trespassers that suck up tax-dollars like a vacuum.

I have a better idea....all illegals caught should be put to work in building the 700 mile border cheaper on the tax payer.

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