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Originally posted by iMacFanatic
I live in Virginia and trust me you have to either fail an intelligence test for pass a stupidity test to run for office here. Remember Virgil Goode?
I don't think it is even passably legal for a state to ban a federal mandate. If I recall federal law trumps state law...as it should.
If it were the other way around the federal government wouldn't have any functional power nationally.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
I support this actually...nothing should be mandatory. Common sense? sure, but mandatory, no.
Well done Virginia..you lot are freaking wacked beyond any and all logic, but this is actually a pretty solid move.
Originally posted by iMacFanatic
I live in Virginia and trust me you have to either fail an intelligence test for pass a stupidity test to run for office here. Remember Virgil Goode?
I don't think it is even passably legal for a state to ban a federal mandate. If I recall federal law trumps state law...as it should.
If it were the other way around the federal government wouldn't have any functional power nationally.
[edit on 3/11/2010 by iMacFanatic]
"VERMIN"
If there is a stain on the record of our forefathers, a dark hour in the earliest history of the American Colonies, it would be the hanging of the "witches" at Salem. But that was a pinpoint in place and time-- a brief lapse into hysteria. For the most part, our seventeenth century colonists were scrupulously fair, even in fear.
There was one group of people they feared with reason-- a society, you might say, whose often insidious craft had claimed a multitude of victims, ever since the Middle ages in Europe.
One group of people were hated and feared from Massachusetts Bay to Virginia.
The Magistrate would not burn them at the stake, although surely a great many of the colonists would have recommended such a solution. Our forefathers were baffled by them.
In the first place, where did they come from? Of all who sailed from England to Plymouth in 1620, not one of them was aboard. "VERMIN." That's what the Colonist called them.
Parasites who fed on human misery, spreading sorrow and confusion wherever they went. "DESTRUCTIVE." They were called.
And still they were permitted coexistence with the colonists. For a while, anyway. Of course there were colonial laws prohibiting the practice of their infamous craft. Somehow a way was always found around all those laws.
In 1641, Massachusetts Bay colony took a novel approach to the problem. The governors attempted to starve the "devils" out of existence through economic exclusion. They were denied wages, and thereby it was hoped that they would perish.
Four years later, Virginia followed the example of Massachusetts Bay, and for a while it seemed that the dilemma had been resolved. It had not, somehow the parasites managed to survive, and the mere nearness of them made the colonists skin crawl.
In 1658, In Virginia, the final solution: Banishment; EXILE. The "treacherous ones" were cast out of the colony. At last, after decades of enduring the psychological gloom, the sun came out and the birds sang, and all was right with the world. And the elation continued for a generation.
I'm not sure why the Virginians eventually allowed the outcasts to return, but they did. In 1680, after twenty-two years, the despised ones were readmitted to the colony on the condition that they be subjected to the strictest surveillance.
How soon we forget! For indeed over the next half century or so, the imposed restrictions were slowly, quietly swept away. And those whose treachery had been feared since the Middle ages ultimately took their place in society.
You see, the "vermin" that once infested colonial America, the parasites who prayed on the misfortunes of their neighbors until finally they were officially banished from Virginia, those dreaded, despised, outcasts, masters of confusion were lawyers.
>From "Paul Harvey's" The rest of the story.
What money?
The money they don't have?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
You are naive if you think your state does not depend on federal money.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Are you suggesting that Virginia should just create it's own currency?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by bsbray11
So unless you want your highway system, education system, and other federally funded programs to go to crap...I'm sure your state will follow any mandate the federal government gives. Or you will become a third world state.
Originally posted by daniel_g
cough cough: federal employees live in VA :cough cough
Originally posted by mrbarber
Federal funding would only be lost for the first year. After that the States could simply withhold Federal Income Taxes from the Federal Government in order to fund themselves in lieu of the Feds.
The following states never took up the proposed [sixteenth] amendment:
1. Pennsylvania
2. Virginia
3. Florida