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Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by spy66
I guess dirt is good propaganda too, to keep the wheel turning in once favor. If some one has done stupid things i guess their facts are stupid as well.
Some times i wonder if every one on ATS is perfect. Since we can sit and judge other people for the stupidity they have being caught doing. I guess its fair and good to judge other until we our selves get caught.
This just show that people on ATS cant judge facts and personal feelings separately.
No. Public figures need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Are you one that subscribes to letting priests off for molesting little boys "because, well, others do it". Or do you believe like most people that calling yourself a priest means that you will forgo rolling around in the dirt with the rest of humanity?
It's the same for public figures that want our trust. Can't you see that Ritter's actions also show how stupid he is for not understanding that his actions would affect the public's trust in what he had to say?
So, that makes Ritter now a criminal and stupid.
Still want to call him your guy?
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by centurion1211
Centurion, you have to have character before someone can assassinate it.
Scott Ritter is an authority on weapons programs in numerous countries. it's his job, it's what he does, it's what he knows. Apparently he likes beating off on a webcam when he shouldn't, too, but this does not change that he is an authority on the subject at hand.
You, on hte other hand, are not an authority on anything. if I ever want to know what tattoo parlor I can go to to put a giant swastika on my chest, I'd ask you first, but aside from that, you're pretty much useless as a source of information.
Originally posted by spy66
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by spy66
I guess dirt is good propaganda too, to keep the wheel turning in once favor. If some one has done stupid things i guess their facts are stupid as well.
Some times i wonder if every one on ATS is perfect. Since we can sit and judge other people for the stupidity they have being caught doing. I guess its fair and good to judge other until we our selves get caught.
This just show that people on ATS cant judge facts and personal feelings separately.
No. Public figures need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Are you one that subscribes to letting priests off for molesting little boys "because, well, others do it". Or do you believe like most people that calling yourself a priest means that you will forgo rolling around in the dirt with the rest of humanity?
It's the same for public figures that want our trust. Can't you see that Ritter's actions also show how stupid he is for not understanding that his actions would affect the public's trust in what he had to say?
So, that makes Ritter now a criminal and stupid.
Still want to call him your guy?
You dont get the point. So you are the one i am referring to in my Post.
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
reply to post by Mdv2
Question. What does this have to do with him in his official capavity as a UN weapons inspector?
Answer: Not a damned thing.
Nice attempt at distraction through character assassination, though.
"Well, if he'll masturbate for a cop online, then he MUST be lying about Iran"... That's not even faulty logic, that's plain stupid.
I am not trying to say they lie about everything
On edit: Oh hey, I see you've got Centurion on your side. I'm sure with that fellow's help, you'll have this turned into a cozy little "KILL ALL THE FILTHY MUSLIMS RIGHT NOW AND ALL THE DIRTY LIBERALS FOR JEEEEEEEESUS AND WHITE AMERICA!" thread at any moment now. Kudos to you, Mdv2, kudos.
[edit on 12-2-2010 by TheWalkingFox]
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by centurion1211
Excuse me ? You own ATS ?
Megalomania ?
The fact Walking Fox already has two stars for his/her SUPERB
response to your 'post to script' offerings
demonstrates even to you, I'm sure, that Walking Fox is considered a VERY welcome and admired ATS member
C'mon. Admit it. That post of Walking Fox's is SUPERB !
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by spy66
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by spy66
I guess dirt is good propaganda too, to keep the wheel turning in once favor. If some one has done stupid things i guess their facts are stupid as well.
Some times i wonder if every one on ATS is perfect. Since we can sit and judge other people for the stupidity they have being caught doing. I guess its fair and good to judge other until we our selves get caught.
This just show that people on ATS cant judge facts and personal feelings separately.
No. Public figures need to hold themselves to a higher standard. Are you one that subscribes to letting priests off for molesting little boys "because, well, others do it". Or do you believe like most people that calling yourself a priest means that you will forgo rolling around in the dirt with the rest of humanity?
It's the same for public figures that want our trust. Can't you see that Ritter's actions also show how stupid he is for not understanding that his actions would affect the public's trust in what he had to say?
So, that makes Ritter now a criminal and stupid.
Still want to call him your guy?
You dont get the point. So you are the one i am referring to in my Post.
I totally get your point.
The difference between us that I don't think you get is that I CHOOSE to disregard people as leaders and spokesmen that are scum in their personal lives - which is totally my right to do.
Notice that I've said that's what I do. I never said you have to. And I never resorted to name calling because you don't agree with me - unlike some others here.
Originally posted by centurion1211Once again we see how quickly those on the left degenerate into personal insults whenever one of their lightweight individual beliefs is challenged.
Because I don't agree with you, now I'm a racist and a nazi?
Please grow up some (a lot) before you come back here and post again.
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by centurion1211
LOL. That's hypocritical, don't you think ?
Considering you've been banging the drum non-stop about the allegations about Ritter
You haven't touched on US mendacity, as per the thread title
Yet you claim people are free to make their own decisions (as of course they are, but I'm sure we all thank you for giving us permission to think for ourselves)
If you meant one syllable about 'people are free to make their own choice' you would not have returned time after time to this thread with the clear intention of trying to DICATE what others should believe about Ritter
As I said ---- you are working at discrediting Ritter like a person possessed
WHY ?
Do you think if you spread slime upon Ritter repeatedly, you'll brainwash us ?
Not working, is it ?
And it WOULD be appreciated if you'd return to the thread-topic, sooner rather than later. Thanks
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by centurion1211
You have NO idea how many years I've been posting on ATS
Same with Walking Fox
Originally posted by Vincent84
Ex-UN inspector: Iran truth overcomes US mendacity
presstv.ir
(visit the link for the full news article)
Former Chief UN Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter says the truth about Iran's nuclear program is prevailing over the hype the western media is creating against the country.
The former UN official took aim at the existing western media hype against the Iranian nuclear program and some personalities who are very good at marring the image of Iran, including David Albright, whose “commentary and analysis is more colored by the opinions of his US and Israeli contacts and connections than it is by his first hand experience.”
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by centurion1211Once again we see how quickly those on the left degenerate into personal insults whenever one of their lightweight individual beliefs is challenged.
You need to start challenging some beliefs before you can claim this
So where have you been? I'm challenging the belief in Ritter's credibility.
Because I don't agree with you, now I'm a racist and a nazi?
No, you're a racist because I keep seeing racist crap from you. I wouldn't call you a Nazi. The Nazis managed to be in charge of the most powerful nation of Europe for over a decade. What have you done lately?
But didn't you post that I should be wearing a swastika? And now it sounds like you wanted me to take that as a compliment.
Please grow up some (a lot) before you come back here and post again.
Soon as you stop pretending getting naughty with a cop online strips all authority about Iran's weapons programs from a dude.
"Bobby peeked up Sally's skirt! There's no way he can be an A student!"
[edit on 12-2-2010 by TheWalkingFox]
Originally posted by centurion1211
Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Originally posted by centurion1211Once again we see how quickly those on the left degenerate into personal insults whenever one of their lightweight individual beliefs is challenged.
You need to start challenging some beliefs before you can claim this
So where have you been? I'm challenging the belief in Ritter's credibility.
Because I don't agree with you, now I'm a racist and a nazi?
No, you're a racist because I keep seeing racist crap from you. I wouldn't call you a Nazi. The Nazis managed to be in charge of the most powerful nation of Europe for over a decade. What have you done lately?
But didn't you post that I should be wearing a swastika? And now it sounds like you wanted me to take that as a compliment.
Please grow up some (a lot) before you come back here and post again.
Soon as you stop pretending getting naughty with a cop online strips all authority about Iran's weapons programs from a dude.
"Bobby peeked up Sally's skirt! There's no way he can be an A student!"
[edit on 12-2-2010 by TheWalkingFox]
Won't happen. My choice - as I've tried to explain to you ad nauseum - on what standards I place on a leader or spokesman. It's YOU that can't deal with that.
Originally posted by Dock9
reply to post by centurion1211
Sigh
Guess I have to save you before you dig your hole any deeper, huh ?
This is my CURRENT ID
Do you know my previous ID's ? Do you know how many years I've been posting on ATS ?
Answer: No. You don't.
Now, will you PLEASE devote some time to the actual thread-topic ?