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"Satanic Rapists On Trial" (Russia) - article

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posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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I tried to resist posting this...
But no...

The link is to the article's appearance on rt.com, I don't see a writer's name for me to credit...Satanic rapists on trial

Two young people are being tried in Russia for organizing a Satan-worshiping sect. Their adepts were subjected to abuse during gatherings, while some girls, including those below the age of consent, were molested.

The sect named "Nobilis Ordo Diaboli" - or the "Noble Order of the Devil" - was engaged in the secret worshiping of Satan in the republic of Mordovia in central Russia since 2003. It was organized by medical student Aleksandr Kazakov, 24, and had up to 75 adepts over the years, investigators say.

Kazakov, who is the prime suspect in the trial, used his charisma to lure young people from well-to-do families into the "Order". New adepts were recruited from mysticism-loving friends of sect members and through satanic websites and internet message boards. Every initiate had to sign "a contract", which gave the "high priest" ownership of his or her soul as part of the initiation rituals.

Under Kazakov's guidance, members gathered in secrecy, dressed in black robes and performed "unholy rites". They also indulged in orgies and drinking sessions that could last for days. For girls, sex with the man and his closest "apprentices" was a requirement, and those unwilling could be raped. The Satanists also didn't hesitate to involve minors, say the investigators.

The second man on trial, Denis Danshin, 23, was Kazakov's second-in-command and was responsible for suppressing dissent and doubt among the flock, sometimes through violence.

When police cracked down on the cult in 2009, they seized numerous books about Satanism and occult paraphernalia like animal skulls. The defendants claim that their sect was a mere role-playing club, and everything the members did was done voluntarily. They also deny charges of sexual abuse and violence.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.


Obviously this here article is kinda slight, I post it only in the hope of running across more fuller detail, which I will post as Round Two. Some things do jump out at me, to talk about.

Number one, obviously, any excuse is good enough to get laid, most days. (Plus then if they are staying up for days drinking and having sex simultaneously, it does make me suspect they might have had to also invoke the demon Methamphetamine, or some other local cousin besides the familiar spirit called Viagra (and charismatic leader was a med student - still, it's mere speculation on my part), which would also tend to help get this party started, quick-like).

Number two, I never understand how anybody could go along with any type of contract/bondage/multi-level-marketing in spiritual matters. Buddha didn't ask for any abusive vows, for example, that I can recall...no billion-year-contracts, like Scientology supposedly has...I figure if I am going to learn some powerful spiritual truth from you (/have some intense mystical experience), I would then be bound to you by the strength/beauty of the truth/experience, and not some legalistic contract hoo-hah. I think spiritual vows are good, as expressions of will, but only to yourself and about yourself, without installing external referents and creditors.

(Number three, (I hate to have to say it), a devil-worshipper does not equal a child-molester. The devil-worshippers I have known view child-molesters as non-self-respecting, weak, and despicable ... like raging-bull-proud-rebel-warrior-types versus superficially-acceptable-creepy-secret-touch-your-leg-pedophile-types. Not to say that satanism and child molestation could never occur together - maybe they do in this story - but the one does not follow from the other, is all.)

[edit on 5-2-2010 by nine-eyed-eel]



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 11:20 PM
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I don't know what is more lame. the nerds who had to resort to this to get laid, or the morons who went along with it. The article doesn't say they went out looking for victims to rape. sounds like these girls knew what was going on. I wonder if someones mummy found out what was going on and called the authorities.

from what I've heard about russian prison, these idiots will get whats coming to them. We'll see if satan helps them out in the gulag(sp?)



posted on Feb, 5 2010 @ 11:41 PM
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Well, it's a personality cult. They are all over the place. It doesn't really matter what type it is.

Cult leaders typically use the power of their personality to entice people to do things that they normally wouldn't do. Typically they prey on the insecure. They look for people who are troubled, insecure, doubtful and scared.

Once they befriend this person, the cult leader will tell them a laundry list of things.

1. "Everything is going to be okay." This is a key proponent. That is what most people what to hear, not only for their physical well-being but their spiritual as well.

2. "I am the only person on this planet that can help you." This is simply an attempt to gain a person's trust.

3. "If you follow me, I'll awaken you to things you never knew." This is the catcher. People urn for the truth. If they think they have found a person who has the truth, or even MIGHT have the truth, they will follow them.

4. "I'll make sure you are always safe." This is simply an appeal to their insecurity.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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I like your concept of a list of mind-control-sales-tech things cult leaders do. I remember somewhere some years back, in notes I was taking on my reading materiel, I started trying to compile such a list. Two that I remember, besides those you mention, were like:

Tell them they have some bad serious imaginary problem, which you, however, are fortunately able to cure them of (probably with great expense, difficulty and effort)....like, you are under a curse but I can cleanse you, you have no soul but I can help you grow one, the planet's about to be destroyed but I can raise your vibrational level so the flying saucer we're leaving on might condescend to take you, too...this trick works because our real existing problems are boring, familiar, and sore-to-touch cause we have been failing to fix them forever, whereas the shiny new problems are more glamorous, can be approached with less guilt and sadness since we haven't failed at them already, and when the leader does sell you this new problem you're pretty sure he has a solution up his sleeve that he will sell you now or in the next episode.
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Don't use plain everyday words to convey your teaching even if it's dealing with their plain everyday problems - use made-up or unfamiliar jargon. ...this makes the teaching seem different from their own or previous ordinary thoughts they had or heard, and, when they do learn to remember the definitions for your unfamiliar words, they will feel like they've accomplished something, they'll tell themselves "I do know what that means" instead of wondering "But is that really true"...plus they can show off and lord the new words over their less-groovy friends...

But I do have to protest your characterization of followers in particular as "insecure", because that is always true, of everybody...we are all insecure, because we die, just like we all have low-self-esteem, because we're not God...ain't that why newborn babies cry, because they intend/desire to be immortal omnipotent will, and even without words, they sense it's not quite working out, like that, already?

[edit on 6-2-2010 by nine-eyed-eel]



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
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But I do have to protest your characterization of followers in particular as "insecure", because that is always true, of everybody...we are all insecure, because we die, just like we all have low-self-esteem, because we're not God...ain't that why newborn babies cry, because they intend/desire to be immortal omnipotent will, and even without words, they sense it's not quite working out, like that, already?

[edit on 6-2-2010 by nine-eyed-eel]


Well, when I think of insecurity, to me it encompasses more than just safety.Insecurity also implies low self-esteem to me.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:37 AM
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The key here is that it was in Russia. Its not necessarily what it seems. Such cults are front covers for intel ops. They are meant to appear as satanic cults so no one looks deeper. But you can bet that the leaders will undergo interrogation and the Russians will try and find out who is really behind it.



posted on Feb, 6 2010 @ 01:45 AM
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For sure, even if the article is honestly written, I don't necessarily accept that what the quoted investigators are saying is true or actually-believed-as-true by those same investigators...All those killings of journalists in Russia, corruption, et cetera...this here little squib article is just Round One, if we get to Round Two the story could for sure look quite different...




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