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Originally posted by TarzanBeta
Let's see... my brain moves my body by means of the nervous system. My God moves my Lord, Christ, by means of the Spirit.
Basically, if you were to tell me that you were not talking to my body, but only to my mind, I would have to tell you that you were crazy. You cannot communicate with my mind if it were not for my body.
Man cannot reach the Father without the Son.
The Father is the mind. The Son is the image which the mind has created for itself. In fact, the mind's first imagination was His Son!
Originally posted by DiscoDave
Isnt that abit like chicken before the egg thing?
Maybe he should be on Oprah he can get closure over how exactly
he's related to Mary.
I simply don't understand who you're worshipping
Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10
24Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
37If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Originally posted by badmedia
It's the father and son relationship. The father and son are seperate, but if you find the father, then you will see that the 2 of you are 1. Just as Jesus did.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I simply don't understand who you're worshipping.
Originally posted by TarzanBeta
I simply don't understand who you're worshipping.
Originally posted by miriam0566
it amazes me that lots of people including spiritual and abstract thinkers cant seem to take this scripture as anything but literal.
one does not mean literally the "same spirit"
it is an expression that denotes harmony, unity.
Originally posted by badmedia
I base my understanding of what I was speaking of there not on scripture, or the literal. I based it on experience and having experienced that. In fact, it was the experience and understanding of the father and son relationship which lead to ALL the rest of the understanding.
Originally posted by pasttheclouds
Do you want God to write the bible again then ?
Do you want Truth to allow you to see Him ?
Or was Jesus his example not the effort worth ?
3 questions.
Originally posted by miriam0566
in other words, you disregard the context of the scripture and replace it with your own opinion which is based on your feelings.
im sorry, but god's spirit doesnt work the way you describe it. it doesnt just show you how things are done, nor does it contradict god's inspired word (inspired through the spirit itself)
if the spirit is showing you something that contradicts the bible, then i would second guess where that "spirit" comes from
1 john 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 4
2Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Originally posted by badmedia
What did I take out of context? Nothing.
#1. Who the heck are you to say how "god's spirit works"?
#2. The bible contradicts itself.
#3. Nothing replaces the spirit itself, no word of god which has been changed multiple times, selected by politicians and chosen by men on terms of what is accepted, and how it is understood.
Speaking of context, how about the next 2 verses rather than using the 1 verse as a way of accusing that which I know as "false" and me as a "false prophet".
3And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: