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Originally posted by OldThinker
1) Why do you think BROWN won the most recent election?
For Democrats, Mass. Loss Triggers Finger-Pointing: by Liz Halloran
The recriminations began long before the votes confirmed Republican Scott Brown's stunning capture of the Massachusetts Senate seat held for nearly five decades by the late Democrat Edward Kennedy.
Brown's election Tuesday imperils Kennedy's self-described life's work of overhauling health care, a Democratic initiative the senator-elect had promised to kill during the campaign. It also instills fresh dread in a party that will face increasingly restive, anti-government voters in the fall.
Confronting the loss of their 60-vote supermajority in the Senate and repudiation in a blue state, disoriented Democrats across the country, from the White House to local party workers, spread the blame liberally.
Heard On 'Morning Edition': January 20, 2010
Election Loss Tarnishes Obama's First Year
And, increasingly, at President Obama for failing to convert his historic White House win and personal popularity into a coherent national vision that would keep the public on his side.
Many Democrats were looking to Obama to win back the disillusioned independents who helped put him in office, as well as to provide their party with a narrative that would convince constituents back home to buy into the president's ambitious agenda. Others wondered whether those ambitions were just too great.
As Republicans began to take their victory lap, the Democrats' intra-party blame game was only beginning. Many were quietly taking stock of why the party, riding high just a year ago with a new president in the White House and control of Congress, had fallen so fast. They also asked what they could do, during a time of continued economic distress, to turn around the story in time to salvage the rest of Obama's agenda and stave off disaster in November's mid-term elections.
- Peter Fenn, longtime Democratic strategist
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'Wake-Up Call'
"This is a very welcome wake-up call," says Raymond Buckley of New Hampshire, a national party vice chairman and head of the Association of State Democratic Chairs. This kind of reflection "didn't happen after Democrats lost the governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey — but everyone is going to pay attention to this election."
Coakley's loss will be less welcome to other Democrats. But the Massachusetts contest certainly got Democrats' attention in the House and Senate, where party leaders now face the nearly impossible hurdle of getting some form of health care legislation to Obama's desk before Brown is sworn in.
"Throughout this campaign, we had the machine scared and scrambling," Brown said in his acceptance speech Tuesday night. "And for them, it's just the beginning of an election year filled with many, many surprises."
He added, "When there's trouble in Massachusetts, rest assured there's trouble everywhere, and they know it."
Darren McCollester/Getty ImagesMassachusetts Attorney General Martha Coakley acknowledges defeat Tuesday at the Sheraton Boston in Massachusetts. Some Democrats said she came off as a lackluster opponent whose campaign couldn't be salvaged.
Some Democrats, including longtime strategist Peter Fenn, caution that Massachusetts presented a perfect situation for a populist like Brown. A lackluster opponent in Coakley and an unpopular Democratic governor both contributed to Brown's victory. But, Fenn says, the results do reflect a "national mood that's incredibly toxic when it comes to the economy."
Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by OldThinker
1) Why do you think BROWN won the most recent election?
Apparently he was chosen by GOD.
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2, Obama move to the right.He's a neocon puppet!! of th Big Corps.
3. Health care was always doomed by the insurance co. and big pharma.
4. see #2
As for the last question....When will we invade other ME countries?
Originally posted by OldThinker
OK, what are ME countries? pls let me know....
OT
Originally posted by whaaa
As for the last question....When will we invade other ME countries?
Originally posted by OldThinker
My hope is this thread will be a fair, intellectual discussion...
I have a few simple questions...
1) Why do you think BROWN won the most recent election?
2) Should President Obama move to the right?
3) Is 'healthcare' over? Is that good or bad?
4) Is President Obama ABLE to choose on his own? Or is he 'be-holden' to the left that got him elected?
Thoughts friends?
Do you have other questions we should ponder?
OT
"If there's one thing that I regret this year is that we were so busy just getting stuff done and dealing with the immediate crises that were in front of us that I think we lost some of that sense of speaking directly to the American people about what their core values are and why we have to make sure those institutions are matching up with those values."
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The president said he made a mistake in assuming that if he focused on policy decisions, the American people would understand the reasoning behind them
Originally posted by Guzzeppi
I appreciate the post OP, but what is the end game of this thread other than opinions? We need to quit bickering on issues of the left, right or center and try to come up with real answers to the problems that America faces. All we see today is many threads, blogs and news just informing us of the problems, but giving no answers. We need to quit fighting amongst ourselves and start trying to come up with solutionsto the problems we face today. That would truly be something new and refreshing.
We have great minds here on ATS! Lets try to come up with real solutions.
Peace!
Originally posted by bowlbyville
One tidbit I heard on the radio on Tuesday was a reporter from Mass. He made one interesting point about people in the State who were very pissed-off with government in general. Apparently sometime within the last few years the people of Mass. passed a referendum that capped the State income tax to 5% - well, the politicians ignored the referendum like it never happened...wow...talk about "deaf ears."
1) Why do you think BROWN won the most recent election?
2) Should President Obama move to the right?
3) Is 'healthcare' over? Is that good or bad?
4) Is President Obama ABLE to choose on his own? Or is he 'be-holden' to the left that got him elected?
Originally posted by AshleyD
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4) Is President Obama ABLE to choose on his own? Or is he 'be-holden' to the left that got him elected?
He can technically do whatever he wants. He is able. However, in politics you have to play the game so probably not.
Originally posted by OldThinker
1) Why do you think BROWN won the most recent election?
2) Should President Obama move to the right?
3) Is 'healthcare' over? Is that good or bad?
4) Is President Obama ABLE to choose on his own? Or is he 'be-holden' to the left that got him elected?
Do you have other questions we should ponder?
OT