The New World Order & The Globalist Agenda

Thank you to everyone for your thoughts.

reply to post by Chett

My problem is from day to day I can't figure if its a 'good thing' or a 'bad thing'.

That's natural- a lot of us have that same confusion. I personally believe it will be a 'bad thing' at first and a 'good thing' eventually. My opinion is based off religious prophecy, though, and seeing what past mega-governments have been capable of.

reply to post by Jazzyguy

Asians are simply just too powerful. The NWO concept always comes from the western elites.

I certainly see your point. In terms of Bilderbergs and such, it is definitely Western-centric. However, no one can deny Asia is a force to be reckoned with and grows more powerful with time. Asia isn't exactly left out in the cold, however.

For instance, there is a lot of speculation currently taking place that even China may 'lead the NWO.' Since the East has begun to be main players in world affairs (especially finance and technology) as of the 20th century, expect to be hearing more from them. Even web searches of things like Asia, China, Japan, NWO will yield several results.

reply to post by Ridhya

This has been done to death but I guess being a mod it will not get closed... I am sorry I expected more.

Patience. This thread took me about 5 days to write. It is only the first part. I'm considering doing a continuation piece but wanted to lay the ground work first.

reply to post by JaxonRoberts

If we had one united government that was a democracy, with a Constitution that guarantees the rights of the citizens, much as the US Constitutions does, would it really be such a horrible thing?

That is the main question and only the future holds the answer. What we can do is look at history and human nature. Every man made system is soiled with corruption- even the 'free' states. What mostly keeps governments in check is a system of checks and balances. Although this could still be done in a one world government, it stands to reason one global government entity would not have the broad scale we do now of various nations holding each other accountable.

We would need some sort of massive watchdog agency with just as much power as the government itself. Even that could fall victim to corruption, though.



Thanks again for everyone's posts.

What's so bad about a NWO?
What is said about a NWO is consistently and exclusively BAAAD. Why?
Would it so horrible to have representatives from every society governing the planet as a whole? Having laws in affect that apply to every citizen in every society equally?
No more warlords, dictatorships, corrupt governments?

With the population growth, eventually something will have to be done to manage the planets resources. One or two governments, will never be able to accomplish what a world government could.

A NWO to me is simply having a central government that is capable of managing/governing all equally, instead of separately. Such a body would have just laws, officials would be elected, and the majority rules. Imagine the amount of resources that would be freed up when there is no longer a chance of war. We might finally have a chance to attack Famine, hunger, disease, etc., etc., etc.

The idea of a NWO is not necessarily an evil concept, yet It has obviously become one .I see incredible opportunity, not the end of freedom. Not the end of civilization as we know it. Admit it guys, we're not that civilized as it is. What if the planet were governed as one entity instead of hundreds. We would then be part of the same village, town, city. Why is that bad?

I know what many have said, and the feelings they have about a NWO. But maybe they are wrong. Maybe it is an inevitable part of evolution... and very necessary part of evolving. If we can do it right, I'm all for it. If it is done with evil intent and to achieve nothing more than complete control, then I fight. Otherwise, I like the idea of it.

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It's ridiculous to say there is not a new world order... It's ridiculous to say there "probably" is a nwo.....There is no facts....But are we are at the beginning of a new world order is the question.....

How would we know ? we would not .....

There is absolutely no evidence to say there will never be a NWO or there is not a NWO ....

There can not be an expert of the NWO that is not part of the NWO ...so anyone who does not have 100% facts can not say for 100% sure by looking at facts or truth that there will never be a nwo ...




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There are literally hundreds of international treaties in force, so isn't it NWO fear being a little late to the party?

I personally don't want a one world government. Actually it would be quite bad for progress for a world government to exist as well as a world currency.

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I don't have anything valuable to add to the thread I'm afraid except my gratitude for posting such an incredibly informative thread which obviously took a lot of work to compose.

It's just such a massive thing to wrap my mind around, so many people involved ... everyone in the world actually! Well maybe not involved, but definitely affected by it. I mean for instance overpopulation. It's a very valid concern. But how do you deal with that? Limit people to having one child? And who will you impose that limit on? Everyone in the world? Or just some regions? But then who are we to decide on that, what gives us the right? But then aren't our governments already telling us what we can or can't do?

I don't know, perhaps I'm way off track here but it's just a topic of such immense proportions, it's so far beyond me. I think I'll just focus on trying to do the right thing in my immediate environment. When it comes down to it, that's all I can ever do anyway. NWO or not.

Never the less, it's never a bad thing to be informed so once again thanks a million for your effort AshleyD!

Why do certain people act like "World Government" is going to be any better than National Government? GOVERNMENT Literally Means: "Control [the] Mind". No one in his/her healthy state of mind would want their mind controlled by strangers, who pose as authorities.

Why would anyone like strangers, who claim to own "the right" to enforce laws on you & your loved-ones?

If you like mind-control projects & slavery (like MK-Ultra), you're going to love World Government. For centuries, wise people have known the wicked rule the world.

YOU DON'T NEED TO SERVE THE GOVERNMENT. THEY'RE WICKED.

Don't be a slave to strangers, who think they can control your mind & take authority over your property. The World Government wants our minds, bodies, and souls. You don't have to submit to any one of those evil people, who want to control your life, media, money, and ect.

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I think this is a give away ?

www.independent.co.uk...

Originally posted by ultraligt
What's so bad about a NWO?
What is said about a NWO is consistently and exclusively BAAAD. Why?
Would it so horrible to have representatives from every society governing the planet as a whole? Having laws in affect that apply to every citizen in every society equally?
No more warlords, dictatorships, corrupt governments?

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Absolute power always corrupts men. History has continued to prove this. The only way a 'New World Order' will work, is when it's God's new order. Simply put, if you believe in God's word in the Bible, man's attempt at a global government has to happen before the real New World Order occurs. If you don't believe in in God and the Bible, then it's probably your only hope for world peace. However, take note that the Bible says when the world declares "true peace and security", is the day their end will come. Make of it what you will...

"Whenever it is that they are saying: 'peace and security!' then sudden destruction is to be instantly upon them" (1 Thes. 4:3)

It's the ultimate deception for those that think they can live in a peaceful world without listening to God. It will seem like true peace and security is attainable for a global governement. Myself, I won't be falling for it.

"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and give great signs and wonders so as to mislead, if possible, even the chosen ones." (Matt. 24:24)

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reply to post by ultraligt


A peaceful, unified world living together in harmony is a very desirable goal. John Lennon's Imagine has always been one of my favorite songs.

However, in my experience, people working for the benefit of all include everybody in the process and have a clear and open agenda.

People with selfish motives and an ulterior agenda do the opposite.



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It's been a pleasure reading this post, it is rare now days to find any intelligent discussion on these matters that does not descend into anti-illuminist finger pointing. For those of you that are interested and have not already, might i suggest you visit www.armageddonconspiracy.co.uk... for some what alternative and enlightening views on these maters.

Clinton Urges Global Response to Internet Attacks

“Given the magnitude of the challenges we’re facing, we need people around the world to pool their knowledge and creativity to help rebuild the global economy, protect our environment, defeat violent extremism and build a future in which every human being can realize their God-given potential,” she said, according to the advance text of a speech at the Newseum in Washington.

www.nytimes.com...

Merkel Calls for Global Exit Strategy

"The crisis, which hasn't mainly originated in Europe, has taught us that if one big player in the global competition doesn't stick to rules, all others have to pay for the consequences," Ms. Merkel said.

online.wsj.com...

I could go on and on pasting these types of articles. The thing I wanted to point out is that perceived problems are being called global problems now. They will continue until we get their agenda ingrained in our heads. Great thread!

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I for one cannot wait, and strive for a one world government. I love the idea, maybe then we as a race will get our s*** together and progress as a whole. I think it will come as a result of the Genetic Nano and Robotics tech revolutions, and I for one plan on being upgraded.

reply to post by AshleyD


Great thread.
Well presented and very thought-provoking!
I've been waiting for a good thread like this to settle the commotion.

This should also clear all the threads that say "Prove the existence of NWO."
At least, I hope so.

We all know that there is an agenda to globalize the world's economies.

It's up to the populus whether to join or resist.

I, for one, will resist. Even if it means giving up my "life". There's no way I will pay for a global government. If the UN wants me to pay for a global tax on anything, they will have to pry it from my hot, pistol-gripped hands.
Everything is lining up for a major crisis, too. If you look around, things are starting to get "normal". Just the way TPTB want it. Normalcy.
Then when they invent a new "crisis", the only way out will be to accept the NWO.


*S&F*



Edited to add: Anyone who thinks that this is a good idea has their head in the sand!
[sarcasm] YES! Sign ME up! I accept the NWO! Just go on with your plan to de-populize the world so I can be free!!! I see that this is the ONLY way to further our existence! There's no other way! I want you to totally control every aspect of my life! [/sarcasm]


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ITs a great compilation of openly documented organizations, but behind these orgs there are huge multinational corporations which holds all the money and power. Its interesting to read the respective CV of each trilateral member and see what corporations they work for. My humble belief is that the finance and banking system is the true elite power instrument, followed by energy and mining.

IMF is a great vehicle.

Cheers.

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Ashley,

Wonderful thread and well presented. Nice to see this discussed with some common sense.

I don't think there are many who are not aware the NWO is a real thing and I'm positive it's the bizarre add-on theories that keeps this outside the mainstream.

Clearly a single people worldwide under an honest government with the peoples best interests at heart is a very desirable thing and I think that is how it will ultimately be presented if implemented.

The problem is clearly the Human Race and the corruption in our leadership. Add that to the fact that a huge portion of the earths population would only participate if their culture were the ruling culture and we get nowhere.

We are nowhere near the point where all the worlds cultures could function together united. The PTB knows this but pushes forward for it anyway, which should be an indicator of their false intentions. They know it won't work. They know if it happens now it will be via the use of force to control everyone.

I can't see the Judeo-Christian world, the Muslim world, the Buddists world, the Communist world and the Socialist world uniting under a government willingly. Even the various members of the Western World, being so similar could not come together at this point in our development.

When I see a leadership wanting to go that direction anyway and realize they know that it can only happen through force and much bloodshed, there is no doubt in my mind of their bad intentions for us.

The sociopaths mindset of those at the top of the ladder on this planet, makes them view us in the same way a Rancher would view their livestock. They don't see us as fellow humans, neighbors or equal members of society. They see us as numbers and bits of data on their graphs and charts to be used or discarded in accordance with our value to their plans.

Our leaders are no different from us however and often we seem to tend to look at them as being different somehow, yet they are not. They have formed their own culture apart from those they lord over. Even those who start with good intentions get sucked into the "it's for their own good" mentality.

It's when things go wrong that I see us as being at the greatest risk. I'm not ready to concede that there is a plan to kill off most of us as a means to an end, beyond the ravings and secret thoughts of the occasional true Sociopath that slinks their way into power. I can see it happening after an earth shattering natural disaster or a global war however. That is the time it will occur if it does in our lifetimes.

Will they resort to a false flag event to push this into existence? I don't want to believe that and I know they could never get those holding office to fall in line for that. I can only guess they are waiting silently for the exact right moment to happen. Even then, it shows they don't really have as much control over matters as they would need to survive the attempt.

I often wonder if things like the Bilderbergs and the mythology surrounding the Mason's are not intentional and encouraged by those who are really running the show. A diversion to keep everyone chasing their tails and watching the circus while they do their deeds out in the open unnoticed. Smoke and Mirrors.

good post and good info -

there is nothing new about the new world order. It is the oldest plan in the world - tower of babel, alexander the great, roman empire, kings and queens, slavery, etc. It is the system of world domination by the few of the many. That is the new world order. Why would they do away with sovereign nations?? So they do not have to share power. So, do not be fooled this is not about peace and prosperity. They are doing this by stealth. In the US, we have a shadow govt. operating outside of the system of law, putting in mandates under cover. Why?? Because the people would not agree to these measures if they were informed. This govt. is going for total control of the people as are the other govt. in the world. If this is successful, they will have life and death control over the entire population of this planet. There will be a few controlling the many. Much of this has been accomplished already - as with the European Union and now the NAU effort.
Will this be good for the people of earth?? No, it will be system of slavery - perhaps benign - but don't bet on it. Will they ultimately succeed?? No. This battle being fought on earth is a cosmic battle - it is a battle of good vs. evil. Eventually, evil loses. Pick your side and don't waver.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

I often wonder if things like the Bilderbergs and the mythology surrounding the Mason's are not intentional and encouraged by those who are really running the show. A diversion to keep everyone chasing their tails and watching the circus while they do their deeds out in the open unnoticed. Smoke and Mirrors.

That's a great point and for those who are the non-sheeple, we do see this happening. Take the recent Executive Order for example. If you're awake you see where this can and will lead. If you're like 99% of the mass population, you don't even have a clue this thing was signed. I'd be willing to bet that more than 90% of the mainstream news people across this country don't even know about it. Even if they do, they haven't and won't take the time to connect the dots.

reply to post by shasta9600
The sheep will realize the EO when they are dragged off to the nearest prison camp by one of the russian soldiers that Obama has asked russia for when martial law gets declared.

Hello,
Somebody's been doing their homework! Ashley D!
Myself, I've been looking around trying to educate myself while not on this website. I need to take a break so to calm my nerves/emotions. I found a peculiar thingy in wiki, I hope it isn't steering away from this thread, but rather, in a word; en.wikipedia.org...
This seems to be where I imagine our little world is today. To sum it up with one word. And no, There is no solitude to be had.
Just waiting for the green light...And what it entails, is still a mystery to me. "To infinity and beyond."
Crud, Still learning how to link pages, sorry...

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I think that peace can only be achieved by uniting all inhabitants of Earth, it is almost impossible any other way.

But I do not believe these nuts who talk about the devil and God, and how the NWO worships the Devil. This "place", or universe, is a system. Good and Evil are merely subjective. Relative to our own endeavors.


Would the NWO imprison all the inhabitants of the world? Would the Human race even allow that? I think not.


But this Order is not taking front stage among conspiracy circles, which means it is talked about, and is a possibility. That is to say the unity of all earth is possible, and (perhaps a long shot) peace is possible.