Activist: Watch Out For Israeli DF Stealing Organs In Haiti

reply to post by infinite


I tell you anything for propaganda, people have no idea that in order to harvest organs the intended donor and recipient has to be side by side for better usage of the organs, organs only have a window of time before they start to degenerate, that is why in many instances the donor is keep alive until is time to transport the organ or the donor with the organ.

People the entire topic is nothing but a hoax

Learn the facts fight useless propaganda.

BTW OP this has nothing to do with you just the article story

Still I applaud the Israeli team that had done such an incredible job in Haiti with the first, fully operational surgical hospital in the ground.

Grow up people. This is ATS not Sesame Street chat. Further off topic and baiting posts will be warned.

reply to post by marg6043


Well said Marg,I bet that the Israelis who went to help in Haiti did so because they are good people who want to help.
Well done to them,I wish I could do more to help.


Sometimes people do just want to help one another-And I'll tell a secret,its a really good feeling when you do go to help anyone who needs it.
Its almost a clue to what we were made for IMO.

If more people realised this,the planet would become a much better place IMO,but what do I know.

There are bad people in all countries who will take advantage of their official positions to engage in evil-and at this time they are probably all trying thier usual scams in the wake of the Haiti disaster.
Its not only Israel who have a few bad people in high places,thats for sure.
Its a sick but true fact of Humanity sadly.

Just my opinion,as per usual.

reply to post by Silcone Synapse


I think it would be hard even of Israel to steal organs when International focus is there, so I believe it's a genuine attempt + PR doesn't hurt just incase 2nd cast lead is in pipeline..or maybe new homes to be bulldozed for settlements.

I read a comment in a related article...kinda comic and ironical

“Great,” said someone identifying himself as ‘Smart Alex’, “I just hope the IDF soldiers don’t harvest any of the dead Haitians’ organs without the permission of their families.

“I know, I know,” he wrote, “that was a cheap shot. But I believe well-deserved for a country that tries to use its U.S.-funded humanitarian efforts as propaganda to paper over its disastrous and vile treatment of the Palestinians.”

You realize there is a shelf life on harvested organs right?

Those on an organ receiving list have to be on call and be at the hospital very quickly in order to receive the transplant. They cannot just harvest the organ and place it in a freezer for a later date; it just cannot happen with our current technology. If it were any other way recipients would never need to be n call. There also would be no rush in the transportation of the organ.

Raist

Originally posted by Raist
You realize there is a shelf life on harvested organs right?

Those on an organ receiving list have to be on call and be at the hospital very quickly in order to receive the transplant. They cannot just harvest the organ and place it in a freezer for a later date; it just cannot happen with our current technology. If it were any other way recipients would never need to be n call. There also would be no rush in the transportation of the organ.

Raist

Devils advocate--- If the hospital is so big bla bla bla. Maybe they bring the recipient to the donor.
Think outside the box. Maybe they were doing it before the disaster. Like NYC.
Anyone know those details?
I pray this is all just because of the past realities and not really happening anywhere today.
The Israeli denial and the eventual outing of the Frankenstein like practice bares monitoring.

reply to post by marg6043


Kudos Marge on a sensible post shining far brighter than the propagandist nonsense.

Imagine the kind of person it takes to fabricate this stuff.

Have a great day

Thanks Silicone and Blaine, you know it doesn't take a genius to figure out that certain things are beyond just conspiracies is right out dirty propaganda.

reply to post by Jinni


Watch out for disinformation specialists posting utter crap about Israel to ATS. This is an example of such activity, in my honest opinion.

Oops. Double post.

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This is twitter link from Israeli field hospital in Haiti.
twitter.com...
You can spot few things - there are US and Colombian doctors/nurses in that hospital too.
There sadly are people who died in this hospital.
Anyone saw twitter from AfriSynergy Productions field hospital in Haiti?

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I find this very difficult to believe because I read that the shelf life of an organ that is to be used for transplant is about six hours on a good day. For such an organ harvesting business to be viable there would not only have to be a well oiled machine in situation that moves the organs from scene of crime to client but this well oiled machine would have to be utterly surreptitious and the means to have built the infrastructure for such terrible actions cannot just be thrown together within a week anyway.

I have great doubts there is any truth to this and that beggars the question that if organ exploitation is doubtful and amounts to nothing more than scaremongering then what else is doubtful and amounts to scaremongering that comes from infowars these days.

So sad, I used to lurk in that place all the time

how can one be a "black rights activist", and this receives no comment as if it confers some sort of humanitarian godlike person, yet anyone who had the prefix of "white rights activist" would be described as "racist", "hatefilled" etc

Anyone who describes themselvs as a "Black rights activist" is a non person to me, worthless human, he seeks rights for blacks but not for my white child

Israeli organ trade scandal caught by Sweden Donald Bostrom the selling of human body parts:


This is so #ed, sorry.

reply to post by Donny 4 million


You do not think that would be noticed?

I mean someone that is seriously ill being brought in to a devastated country? Not to mention that it is not exactly the safest place for some one that is tragically ill. I would say it would be noticed right away if they brought the recipient to the “donor”. Even then how many recipients could they bring in? How are they going to get them in and get the surgery done without someone seeing them?

No the chances of this taking place are so slim it would be like being hit by lightening and winning the lottery on the same day.

Raist

reply to post by Sean48


In all honesty, I think you are dangerously consumed by hate. I encourage you to seek psychiatric support as soon as possible. I don't think you are aware of just how badly consumed you actually are.

It's pretty funny how some people can recognise hate in others, but never in themselves.

Don't worry, Sean48, there are no Israelis living across the street planning to cut you up and sell your organs on the black market.

[edit on 21/1/2010 by Dark Ghost]

Originally posted by Raist
reply to post by Donny 4 million

 

You do not think that would be noticed?

I mean someone that is seriously ill being brought in to a devastated country? Not to mention that it is not exactly the safest place for some one that is tragically ill. I would say it would be noticed right away if they brought the recipient to the “donor”. Even then how many recipients could they bring in? How are they going to get them in and get the surgery done without someone seeing them?

No the chances of this taking place are so slim it would be like being hit by lightening and winning the lottery on the same day.

Raist

Ok
At least you acknowledge it is possible. It could happen.
The point you seem very incapable of comprehending is that---
Israeli folks have been caught RED handed dealing in and then have
publicly denied those ghoulish organ stealing charges of for years.
It took international outrage to just expose it.
If you think the cry to leave no stone unturned when it comes to this issue is not worth while.
Then tell me you wouldn't mind if it happened as a unknowing donor to one of your family members.

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Jinni

 

The Key Word is DEAD... DEAD, DEAD, DEAD.... Your freaking DEAD who cares what happens to your body parts that can be used to keep someone else alive, who may be your Daughter or Son... Its one thing if they kidnapped took there kidney and left them in a bunch of Ice in a hotel room....


THERE DEAD DEAD DEAD let some good come of these harvest there organs to keep people alive... Right now there being thrown into unmarked graves, ditches. Whats the harm in that... Goofy people I swear.

Who cares? I don't know maybe the family members who may want to salvage what is left of their families remains? That's what comes to my mind...

Also, I believe people have a right to do what they wish with their bodies when they die. Maybe not in a 3rd world country, but it really should be something people should know better than to do without permission. But I guess I'm just being unrealistic and humane unlike some others who will grab a body and take what they can to make a quick buck.

I'll make sure to let your family know I IDed your body personally before some a$$hole chops it up into pieces to the point where it can't be recognized

The organ stuff is one thing. A few bad apples sometimes can spoil the whole basket.
I would like to say that it is a shame. The dedicated folks from any and every country, organization or individual that are participating in the Haitian rescue effort needs all the respect and support the world can
provide them.
Their task is daunting and heroic.
No exceptions.

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