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Why Pandora May Be a Real Planet (Avatar)

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 04:37 AM
Why Pandora May Be A Real Planet (Avatar)

Now, let me preface this by saying the following...

I heard somewhere that James Cameron had dreamt of Pandora for years, but after searching around some (although not extensively) I could not find an internet quote of this, so if any of you can, please let me know at as it would greatly fit into my theory. As many of you know, dreams themselves often occur on an astral plane, a place where many advanced spiritual thinkers of our civilization concur that we actually travel to in dream state.

Now, I have been reading Lisette Larkins book "Talking to Extraterrestrials", I know but stick with me. Any open and receptive consciousness that spends even 10 minutes with this book would feel something resonate in their heart and mind akin to truth. These dialogues most certainly seem beyond the scope of the normal human parlance, and she is a VERY respected author in the UFO community. I have also had certain experiences that would verify her accuracy, but this isn’t about me, I'm no one. So, heres the juice. On page 67 in the chapter entitled Count the Stars, Count the Ships the following text occurs.

"As you see signs of prejudice in your children, talk to them. Remind them that there are others who are different on this planet, that it is important to get beyond that type of thinking so that they might get ready to embrace other children who are off your planet and who may be blue with green stripes and who may have a tail, and who may have mastered telekinesis. Help them explode open their imaginations. Do this with your children and you will prepare them to know us. Surely you can imagine how beneficial this would be." pg. 67

Now, admittedly, this is not the most convincing selection of the text I could post to convince of the ET presence behind her channelings, or communications, I don’t think she likes the channel word. These are a certain colonies of Greys she says she is contacting here. This book was published in 2002. Now, should we accept the veracity of her alleged sources, then we must also accept that it is most likely that these beings would choose an example of other life forms such as the above description from the infinite realities existing and manifest throughout this dynamic and ever-evolving universe, a cosmos of hyper-diversity, coral reefs of constellations. Shouldn’t we? What need would they have for hyperbole or conjecture when there are probably thousands of real examples to choose from? And if you know anything about the Greys, you would know that this is the exact tongue in cheek behavior they demonstrate, all in good humor, most of the time
. So there's my schpeel. I assure you that (and many Barnes and Noble and Borders carry her books) if you spend just 10 minutes with this book, those of you familiar with the litany of obvious UFO evidence out there will become convinced that there is a serious likelihood of this being truly of ET source. Larkins and see the reviews, she is respected. For those of you uninitiated unto the obviousness of the Grey’s presence. Please take a moment and watch this video. UFO Lands on Playground: 62 Witnesses, All Children
my name is Austin Proffitt, I’m 23, my e-mail is If you go through the avenues of information I have presented here on your own, and find what I am saying to be immanently plausible, then let us spread this post far and wide. Although, it may be best to keep it from those who CNN reported were experiencing depression and suicidal thoughts at not being able to be Pandorian. Or maybe this is the cure?

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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:06 AM
It is interesting that she refers to aliens like that, and then they appear in Avatar.

We just dont know what circles these people socialise in, maybe Cameron spoke about it some time ago, and he got his idea from somebody else, then at a dinner party, or convention etc it was brought up.

You just never know, but well done for remembering the description from that book, and relating it to Avatar.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:19 AM
Okaies. I gots one.

Little red beings with light blue pupil-less eyes, octopus type mouths, two elbow joints and communicate in a series of clicks and chirps.

There; now all I've got to do i wait for them to appear in some type of media and that's me rolling in the money.


posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:42 AM
I think were you to experience the book the gravity of what I am trying to communicate here would be evident. And I'm pretty sure ATS's 'unusual standard of decorum' would frown upon posts solely bent upon attempted mockings of the original poster. Her book is hundreds of pages (not to mention her two other similar books) and this is a small, unmagnified facet of it. She is not trying to cash in or wtv it is you seem to be trying, and failing, to imply. As to the first post. Thanks. I also consider it highly unlikely this woman has anything to do with James Cameron. She is quasi-famous in her own right, true, but not anywhere near his circles. Plus, her renown is amoung Contactees, Abductees, and UFO heads. And anyway the entire layout and context of the book is so far beyond the snippet I produced that such an inclination or notion as her adding this to her book bc she overheard james cameron at a dinner party would appear ludicrous. I had forgotten the problems of conversations in the public domain up until now. People seem to possess an innate ability to halfway process something, conjure up an improbable but apparently sataisfactory excuse or explanation, and then move on. Which is probablly why we still have a pope and a federal reserve around. Whistle while you work.

much love


posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:44 AM
reply to post by Split404

I think a lot of stuff based in film is very real, perhaps even toned down a bit from what we really know. And while I'm convinced of other life forms elsewhere in the big blue, I tend to lean towards bacterial life rather than fully fledged aliens wandering around.

The astral plane detail is where it gets interesting because in your dream world, and for people who practice lucid dreaming whatever the hell happens is totally upto you. I've only lucid dreamed once or twice and the feeling when you wake.. of being convinced that what I'd just dreamt was totally real, there has to be some bigger reason than what we know as to why this stuff goes on in your head...

Oh wait yeah its seratonin.. crap. Which is pretty much this planets version of 'Eywa' from the film.

A chemical that exists within every person, plant and animal, that as soon as you close your eyes transports you to another dimension within your own mind.. and absolutely pumps your body full of it when you die aswell, so at least we know that in death we finally may find the truth so many of us seek.

How is this not the biggest and most important question since the dawn of time... Why is it's counterpart illegal.

[edit on 13-1-2010 by ItsallCrazy]

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:50 AM
dmt doesnt occur naturally in the body. you are thinking of seratonin.

'___' and other psychotropic drugs trigger a massive release of seratonin.

'___' occurs in alot of plants and vines globally.

'___' stands for Dymethyltriptamine for those who require more information

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:57 AM
O you mean James Cameron mentioned it somewhere, then through a local area network of several different dinner parties, it got around to her... and she decided to insert 4 lines about it into a 200 some page book bc she knew the film would be such a hit 8 years later. If you were familar with this author's character, which understandably I cannot expect you to be (lest you lookup her reviews on Amazon as I mentioned to do, not that that is beyond argument) then you would intuitively know that her rigor, dedication, and access to vast sums of inexplicable information help formulate a moral character far beyond such criticism. As to the other person whose signature reads,'' "I want to believe" - therein lies the problem '', well... the x-files does not speak for or represent the constituion of all us believer's (or experiencer's I should say!) consciousness. And should the ordering of the universe deem that indeed planetary neighbors have planetary neighbors, then the insticntive recourse to wanting to believe would be a natural evolutionary inclination. Anyone who has seen the galaxies prolific as stars photographed by the hubble telescope should feel all life forms must necessairly be neighbors. Consider the diversity of a coral reef or rainforest, and the hermetic axiom, "As Above, So Below". Your agenda is obviously more loaded than the most ostentatious of believers.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 05:58 AM
And you, two post above this one, are mis informed.

Here is the wiki article snippet.

Dimethyltryptamine or N,N-Dimethyltryptamine ('___') is a naturally-occurring tryptamine and psychedelic drug, found not only in many plants, but also in trace amounts in the human body where its natural function is undetermined.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:02 AM
reply to post by okamitengu

Dmt is produced in the brain, just in low quantities. Seratonin does help with sleep and some cognitive brain functions like memory and learning, but some level of Dmt is definitely produced by the Pineal gland.

Just a little OT here, but have you got any experience with it being as you seem to have some knowledge of it?

I can't believe more people aren't absolutely incensed at it being illegal, but then again most people I talk to don't even know what it is. And all you have to do is mention the word hallucination and everyone in the room thinks your a crackhead instantly

Edited - I'm adding you Split, like your way of thinking

[edit on 13-1-2010 by ItsallCrazy]

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:05 AM

Originally posted by Split404
Your agenda is obviously more loaded than the most ostentatious of believers.

It's currently trying to get you 20 posts so you can share this with people more receptive to your ideas. Don't mock it.

Were you to take the time to read my previous posts you would see that I am certain of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. Whether it comes to Earth or not is a different matter - one that requires proof that I can't deny.

If you can give 2 more examples of this author of yours being correct about something which was prior unknown (and by correct I don't mean 4 lines out a book that sort of sound like aliens out of a film 8 years later) then I shall investigate her.

As it is, Star Trek was right with communicators and view-screens so Gene Roddenbury is teh profitz!


posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:09 AM
reply to post by ItsallCrazy

Iresting addition to the topic ItsallCrazy, it has got me thinking, first time for the

What do you mean by it being illegal?

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:19 AM
So I should take the time to research your past posts while you cant even lookup an author before trashing her as an opportunist? How do you explain the videos in my post then, if no EBEs or ETs (which could be etheric and interdimensional, lacking 'material') have ever come her then what did 62 children see that day? Who were put in seperate rooms and all drew the same thing? Who live in Africa with no repotage on Ufos or Tvs or movies to watch about them and thus germinate fodder for a mass delusion? Who, over a decade later have been found by a film maker shooting a documentary on them to have not altered their stories one iota? Which you can, but obviously won't, read about here:[_id]=6379

if that link is broken, which it appears that bc of the php it will not paste correctly, go to the root URL ( and type in "The Day the Aliens Landed" or type that in Google

And here, again, is the original Video:

It is also beneficial to watch part 2

And thanks user: Itsallcrazy, reciprocated.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:22 AM
he means dmt is naturally occuring in the human body and can be synthesized from several combinations of plants. Many researchers such as rick strassman (The Sprit Molecule) believe that it is released during birth, death, and deep REM sleep. And although it occurs naturally in the body, when synthesized from plants into an orangish-brown crystalline smokable form it is highly illegal due to being the most potent hallucinogen on the planet.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:31 AM
reply to post by oze bob

Well you can literally extract it from grass. It's cursing through the veins of everyone on the planet and for some reason its totally illegal, more illegal than heroin, coc aine you name it. Obviously there are no tests for finding it in the bloodstream because it's already there but if you are caught in possession of it or producing or selling it you are in deep trouble.

The weirdest thing is it was completely tested by a guy called Rick Straussman during the 70's I think it was. And it was given in small doses, being as in large doses the experience is more intense but your brain struggles to remember it, which is why most of the time you can't remember dreams or only remember fleeting details.

The most interesting part about this is obviously that it happens every single night when you sleep, and with near death experiences and when you actually die this stuff is pumped into your body. (Which I believe is the white light experience when people die, people seeing God in near death experiences etc)

There are a lot of respectable scientists who have tested this themselves before it was classified and a female scientist's description was one of the most interesting. She said that she had flown through space, not thought she had, but she said she felt flying through space, and meeting other beings that communicated with her. People can have life changing experiences with this drug, and it was used in the USA for a short period to help drug addicts go cold turkey, reason being that it made them seriously question their lives and the route they were taking, because it's such a philosophical trip, it's not like how TV paints pychedelics as swirling colours and people thinking they are a Mars bar and for some reason Jimi Hendrix is always playing on loop.

This substance is phenomenal, and I call it a substance still not a drug, its naturally occuring. Same as marijuana, another mind stimulant that is illegal purely because it makes you question the status quo, same reason alcohol is plugged to the masses, its a depressant, keeps all the idiots under control, not like the mind freeing substances that funnily enough are all illegal.

Dr Straussman recommended strongly that tryptamine not be made illegal, but the US government took absolutely no note of his recommendation, another panel of scientists made the same recommendation with '___' and obviously this drug is more dangerous, but that's because its not an untouched small dosage that hits the streets of our countries but a dirty substitute, probably mixed with amphetamines, paracetamol, whatever.

Mushrooms are another one, naturally occuring, abused by idiots who don't know what they're doing to their body, so now they're banned for the rest of us who have more than 3 brain cells and want to stimulate our minds and broaden our horizons.

Mushrooms interestingly also have a near identical molecular make-up to tryptamine, if I remember rightly the only difference is the addition of an oxygen atom.

It's such a damn shame, can you honestly say if it was legal you wouldn't be spending a few nights a week flying around in your own world, from the comfort of your own living room?

[edit on 13-1-2010 by ItsallCrazy]

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:35 AM
reply to post by Split404

Split, is that one of the cases the author you're on about covers?

That one is up there with the most believable sightings ever, a lot of the witness sightings where there are no photos or footage rely on the credibility of a witness and while there are no shortage of sightings by ex or current military personnel, 60 odd children who have no idea whatsoever as to what a UFO even is, can be segregated and give the same stories and drawings.. How can anyone deny that?

I'm going have to get her book, do you know if there are any PDF's anywhere?

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 06:52 AM
No that particular incident is not in Larkins book. She really isn't in the business of trying to convince the uninitiated. But her book is stunning. Equally as remarkable as the beings those 62 children saw... and they are they same beings that she apparently is in communication with. Upon absording the book I feel even the most hardened skeptics will feel a knot either loosen or form in their stomach, depending on their reasoning for allying themselves with undue and unwarranted degrees of what they would call discernment, and I would call willful sedation, or the Ostrich Phenomena.

Matter is Not the Ground of Being. Consciousness is Prior to Both Subject and Object. Science is a Hominids Approximation. Dialectical Materialism is a Phase, Not a Permanent State of the Universe. Ape Science is, Replaceable Models Replacing Models. You Comfort Level is Your Creation, Not a Lens of Cosmos.

posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 07:36 AM
Hang on guys the thread is about avatar and how there may be more truth to it than we are told.

I personally think AVATAR is an excellent film and is made for a soul purpose which is not just to make shed loads of money. Is it made because it is supposed to be made at this time.

People are forgetting that James Cameron is a 33rd degree freemason (same level as George Bush) take a look at this list of 33rd degree masons

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