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Madeleine McCann 'Died In Holiday Apartment'

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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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Madeleine McCann 'Died In Holiday Apartment'


news.sky.com

A report into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, signed by a police chief, said she had died in the family's holiday apartment, a court has been told.
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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:15 AM
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Looks like the McCann's are back in the Spotlight, I have always had my suspicions surrounding the McCann case. I hope I am wrong and by some miracle they find this poor little Girl. Either way it's about time the truth came out so whoever is responsible can be brought to justice.

I think the parents should be charged with Neglect, if Madeleine is still alive then no doubt her life is destroyed anyway. All because of irresponsible parents, not to forget that this cased triggered off the Shannon Matthews case over here in the UK.

Your Thoughts?



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[edit on 12-1-2010 by IamNow]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 09:51 AM
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The story has been suspicious since it was first reported. I remember a friend telling me they thought the parents were behind the whole thing the day the story was released. I still don't believe we know the truth about the event. Many inconsistencies about the official story. The parents did initially seem very distraught and sincerely resentful for neglecting their children. But maybe this was all a part of the show?

As a sick twist, I remember reading somewhere that Maddie is an anagram for "I'm dead" - dont remember where I saw it but kinda strange coincidence.

[edit on 12/1/2010 by Dark Ghost]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:11 AM
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The parents never actually admitted neglect. In fact they continued to insist it was just like dining in your own garden with your children in the bedroom. They just said that with the benefit of hindsight they wished they had never left her.
Arrogance beyond belief.
In my view it is quite clear. Would you go out to dinner leaving your travellers cheques in your holiday apartment with the door unlocked? No. But they did that with their kids.

If, in the UK, working class parents nipped across the road to the pub leaving a toddler and two babies alone for even a few minutes, they would be in court before you could say 'child neglect'.

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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
As a sick twist, I remember reading somewhere that Maddie is an anagram for "I'm dead" - dont remember where I saw it but kinda strange coincidence.

[edit on 12/1/2010 by Dark Ghost]


It does if you can't spell Dead....


I am absolutely amazed that the mccanns have not been arrested and charged ages ago.

I mean it seems so obvious given the evidence that they sedated their daughter so that they could go out and have a nice dinner without the kids.

Then they go back to check and discover that they gave Maddie an overdose and she died. They then either

a) Paid someone a lot of money to hide the body for them until they could dispose of the body.

or

b) Paid someone to dispose of the body for them.

I am exceptionally good at reading people, your whole life can be read easily in the face, especially the eyes...

Maddie McCann's Death was of gross negligence on the part of the parents and in a court of law should be considered Man slaughter. Both Kate and Gerry Mccann should be sent to Prison for a very very long time.

I am a Father of two beautiful daughters, one of which is the same age as Maddie would be now, and I can say that I couldn't even contemplate leaving them in the car while I go to the shop let alone leaving them alone in a hotel room in a foreign country while I wine and dine!!

The McCanns are the best example I could give to state that all people should have to take a full physiological test before being allowed to become parents!!

All the best,

Korg.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:18 AM
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Exactly Korg.
Madeleine was by all accounts a fractious child and had also been complaining about being left. I am guessing she was possibly sedated and then she might have fallen or staggered out the apartment looking for them.
The sickening thing is they had the money to employ a baby sitter or even take a nanny away with them.
The other excuse, after the event, was that a 'kidnapper' is a once in a blue moon happening. But this is not the point. Anything can happen.


[edit on 12-1-2010 by unicorn1]



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:23 AM
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words fail me about this couple- if their daughter was taken by a predator then as a human I have sympathy for their loss HOWEVER, regardless of whatever happened to that poor little soul (whether we will ever know, though I have my suspicions........) the facts are thus


They left their 3 kids aged 3 and 2 (twins) in an unlocked apartment complex which people can enter quite easily to dine at a tapas bar separate from the complex


Every time I read the facts of that alone, regardless of anything else, I get angry at them, it isnt the same as being in your garden as they have tried to suggest (even if I am out my back and the kids are in bed I will make sure the door is locked)


Disgusting, as parents of similarly aged kids, when I am on holiday they would NEVER be free from adult supervision



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:28 AM
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I flagged this article on the replies.

It's true she should never have been left alone.

It's true that the parents should be held accountable.

And I hope that's she's alright - but chances are well against it at this point.

Never leave your child unattended and never presume that when you do so that everyone else has to cut you some slack about it.

-m0r



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:38 AM
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I always thought something was not right about this case and I might be wrong but these people decided to leave there kids alone whilst they dinned on the other side of a pool, if memory serves it was about 30 meters or almost 100 feet. Personaly i would not go beyond the trash cans if my kids where alone in the house.

If the little girl had died in the appartment of say drinking a chemical or playing with matches these 2 would have been charged with neglect.

The only reason they have not been charged is that there is no body to say how she died.

In saying that they will live with the guilt of leaving her alone to die for the rest of there lives.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by jpmailIn saying that they will live with the guilt of leaving her alone to die for the rest of there lives.



that is how most people would feel, certainly I would be racked with guilt, and apart from the occasional public statement from the McCann's there is a distinct lack of this in evidence...............



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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Does anyone remember - when afterwards they swanned off to meet the Pope, leaving the twins in someones care? I was like WTF... If my child had just been abducted by a stranger, I would be sticking to my remaining kids like glue.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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I hate to say it, and it may not be the most popular opinion, but I agree with most of the posts so far... there is definitely something fishy about the whole case.

My children are the most precious things in my life... to leave them in an unlocked apartment while i go off for a meal is unthinkable!!!

I REALLY hope that the truth is discovered one day, whatever that truth may be!





Does anyone remember - when afterwards they swanned off to meet the Pope, leaving the twins in someones care? I was like WTF... If my child had just been abducted by a stranger, I would be sticking to my remaining kids like glue.



I totally agree! They could have taken the twins with them!

[edit on 12-1-2010 by Muckster]


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posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Its now a documented fact that a surgeon friend of theirs (he confessed it freely to police) gave them sleeping tablets so the kids wouldnt wake up while they where with friends in the restaurant, apparantly it was a common thing amonst them...she died of an overdose or while under the effects fell and hit her head on the table..and the fact that they used the "maddie fund" to pay hundreds of thousands off their mortgate is equally sick.. now they have the balls to drag the only man with enough courage to stand up and publically say they´re guilty to a libel trial..he critiscised the british police after british dogs found traces of a corpse in the flat...he says the truth and they take him off the case...whats happening here...why are so many people covering, protecting and giving money to the McCanns...???



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 11:18 AM
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Its now a documented fact that a surgeon friend of theirs (he confessed it freely to police) gave them sleeping tablets so the kids wouldnt wake up while they where with friends in the restaurant, apparantly it was a common thing amonst them...she died of an overdose or while under the effects fell and hit her head on the table..and the fact that they used the "maddie fund" to pay hundreds of thousands off their mortgate is equally sick.. now they have the balls to drag the only man with enough courage to stand up and publically say they´re guilty to a libel trial..he critiscised the british police after british dogs found traces of a corpse in the flat...he says the truth and they take him off the case...whats happening here...why are so many people covering, protecting and giving money to the McCanns...???



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 11:24 AM
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They had money and political influence it seems. Look at the big guns they got on their side.
Again - and it needs repeating - if this had been Mr and Mrs Ordinary from a council estate in Liverpool - they would have probably been charged with neglect at the very least.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by unicorn1
They had money and political influence it seems. Look at the big guns they got on their side.
Again - and it needs repeating - if this had been Mr and Mrs Ordinary from a council estate in Liverpool - they would have probably been charged with neglect at the very least.

They would have both been locked up for murder if they were not million aire GP's...
If you have money you can get a way with a lot of things. Money=power.



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 01:45 PM
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i totally agree with everything you all say. I really do think that theres something not right at all.



posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:23 AM
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I know a Healer/Medium, Maxine Carr once had a reading from here. Yes the Maxine Carr partner of Ian Huntley,. the Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman Murder in 2002. In the reading she told her she was going to be on the news and deeply involved in a police investigation, she told me she sensed nothing but pure hate for the world.

The healer also walked into a Police station to tell them where Madeleine was, the police didn't want to know and sent her on her way. I don't know if this is because they were just sceptic and didn't want to waste time, or because they don't want the truth to surface.

Yes I did ask the healer and she looked at me as though I already knew the answer, I tried to do a RV session on Madeleine and saw a Hotel with a black door with the number 47 on, never got chance to ask the healer/medium if this meant anything.

What I later discovered was that Question 47 of the interrogation was

"47 Confronted with the result of the sample of Madeleine's DNA, whose analysis was carried out by a British laboratory, found behind the sofa and in the boot of the vehicle, as previously described, Kate McCann said she could not explain anything more than she already had. "

The reason I started this topic, coincidence? Or is there a Hotel, room 47 with a black door that holds a key role in the case.

Link to Questions.


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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:31 AM
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Update on the thread:

McCanns Face More Claims Of Cover-Up


A former senior Portuguese police officer has questioned Kate and Gerry McCann's claim about how Madeleine disappeared from their holiday apartment.

Yesterday a senior detective called as a witness by Mr Amaral told the court he believed Madeleine died in her family's apartment.

Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida claimed the main evidence for this was the findings of British police sniffer dogs sent to Portugal to examine the flat. He said the animals detected traces of blood inside the dining room of the holiday flat and in the car the McCann's were using.

Source


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posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 09:43 AM
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Also found this.

Gerry McCann: The Dogs Are Unreliable? Not according to police forces and courts all over the world!


THE ENGLISH SPECIALIST DOG TEAM

The heat is scorching on this thirtieth day of July 2007 when two Springer Spaniels, Eddie and Keela, get off the British Airways plane, accompanied by their trainer, Martin Grime. An air-conditioned vehicle is waiting to take them to their accommodation. A vet, who will be on hand during their stay, has been brought in to intervene in case of illness or if the dogs get bitten by a snake. Their mission: to find Madeleine's body and expose those responsible.

Eddie has been involved in a great number of cases, helping the police to resolve a good many riddles, thanks to his sense of smell. Even if the body has been moved, objects the body has touched have been contaminated by its odour, especially porous materials, fabrics, the upholstery in cars, etc. And that odour, Eddie knows how to recognise out of a thousand.

Keela, a scenes of crime specialist, is capable of locating particles of blood even after a place has been cleaned with chemical products or bleach. Sometimes, the residues are so microscopic they are missed by the instruments of the forensic police, as sophicticated as they are, and it's impossible to harvest them without taking all of what they are on.

Eddie is always the first to be brought onto a site. Once he has discerned the odour that he knows so well, it's Keela's turn to go into action, on the lookout for the slightest whiff of blood. The simultaneous presence of the two elements in a given place - blood and cavaver odours - is taken to indicate that a body has been there and that it's probably there that the death occurred.

The dogs' CV is impressive. Besides collaborating in hundreds of investigations, they passed the practical tests brilliantly at the FBI's "Body Farm," the only place in the world where human cadavers are used to simulate homicide scenarios and concealment of bodies.

Amongst the most media-covered cases, which they contributed to resolving, is that of the disappearance in Northern Ireland of Attracta Harron, who was last seen when she was returning home on foot, after having been to church. All searches carried out by the police were unsuccessful. The main suspect's car having been totally burnt out in a mysterious fire, couldn't be examined. They called in Eddie, who examined the charred remains of the vehicle and immediately picked out the characteristic odour. Human tissue was found amongst the debris, the DNA of which corresponded to the missing woman. Later, the dog indicated the place - close to a river - where the victim's body had been abandoned. At the home of the suspect, where the police were searching for incriminating evidence, Eddie identified cadaver odour in one of the bedrooms. The man confessed to having killed the woman then moving her body to the banks of the river.

The case of Amanda Edwards, reported missing, is also very impressive. The police, who conducted a search of her ex-partner's home, found small bloodstains there, but no trace of a body. The dog, who was brought in for the examination of the man''s vehicle, alerted to cadaver odour on the tools stored in the boot (a shovel, a level and a compactor). The police went to the building site where the suspect had worked a few days before and discovered the body, buried in a garage. The murderer had made efficient use of his tools to carry out his task.

It's also thanks to the help of the dogs that the case of Charlotte Pinkley, a missing British woman, who had been imprisoned by her ex-partner, was resolved. The police requested the help of the specialist dog team to try to find the young woman's body. Eddie picked out a place where the abductor had provisionally left his victim. In the surrounding area, the investigators found the button from a dress that had belonged to Charlotte. That clue exposed the murderer, who ended up showing the police the place where he had hidden the body.

More recently, it's Eddie who helps to find a body buried under a flagstone at the former orphanage, Haut-de-la-Garenne, in Jersey, setting for a terrible case of paedophilia and child murder.*


More of tthe article Here




[edit on 13-1-2010 by IamNow]



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