Hi all, I just posted this in another thread and I wanted to show it here for a little more air.
Originally posted by whoshotJR
Originally posted by DeathShield
Good thing global warming made snow and cold winters things of the past.
Good thing this is exactly what will happen with global warming/climate change. Your summers will be hotter and your winters get colder but your
overall average for the year will continue to rise.
The added melt off from glaciers will mix with the currents and mess up the way the water flows and goes from cold to warm. This will have a major
change to the weather and plunge us into a mini ice age as we see average temps drop.
I really like your perspective and most of what is being posted in general.
Rather, instead of an ice age, this is going to most likely round out more than a few degrees hotter than what we have normally lived with our entire
Most people I hear who keep trying to debunk global warming by saying our temps right now are (apparently literally) polar, fail to grasp the long
term effects of global and universal change on the whole. A system comprised of fractal systems will have many unexpected results when widespread
change is immanent. Cold areas could be significantly warmer in the short term, even if a global ice age is rearing its ugly head.
In contrast, the poles are the source for the cold, and seasonal change we experience our entire lives. Now that they are rising in temperature, that
lingering cold is pushed to the areas that were almost always warmer in general.
I mean, Antarctica is still pretty much frozen solid, and that cold is not just going to go away. Just like a sofa next to a refrigerator or heat
lamp, even if you turn the device off, the over all environment of that area (i.e. the couch, device, and a part or all of the room, etc.) will
reflect those temperature changes for even longer than your senses can detect.
Just because one spot of the couch is cold or even freezing, it doesn't mean the heat lamp isn't on or isn't going to stay on for the rest of the
day. If it is a big enough couch (just use imagination here) in a big enough room, you might not even feel the heat lamp or see it, but with enough
time the room will eventually be warmer than were you blowing cold air in the room or did nothing at all. Even in a portion of that room, what happens
in one part, will effect change in the entire room even if it were an imperceptible difference.
Then in response to temperature change within an enclosed system (such as is in our universe and biosphere for the most part), temperatures will
predictably vary in a fairly unpredictable manner. Strange weather, geologic changes, pole shifting, and anything else you could think of are what
lead up to a new global and universal temperature equilibrium.
A lot of people are convinced that global warming is completely hooey. Not really, the politicized global warming agenda is, but because a lot of
warmer places are colder right now, people will simply think it will stay that way for lack of knowing better.
This is refrigeration bleed off in a very basic way. If power is cut to a refrigerator, for a time after basic defrosting of the freezer there could
easily be parts of the refrigerator that are indeed colder and over time the entire interior will normalize to a consistent temperature. If the door
is cracked open, then you allow for long term environmental change within the refrigerator and then after all thawing has occurred, the normalized
temperature will reflect that outside temperature as well and could even be rationalized into temperature zones.
Plug it back in and leave the door open, then you will find that even if the device is fundamentally the same, the environment could be significantly
changed from before. Ice deposits and air flow will be affected by the outside environment and a new equilibrium will naturally develop in response to
leaving the fridge door open.
Ice build up can happen even in the warmest of refrigerators should the environment prove ripe for it. With the old freezers it seemed to happen
anyways and if you didn't chip or melt the ice out, eventually the build up would be so severe you couldn't close the fridge at all. This could
happen even in one that is losing its freon and getting warmer over time.
Even without freon, at first parts could be quite below freezing, but in six months don't count on it. That is why we have these colder temperatures
right now, the idea of an open door to the fridge symbolizes new environmental factors that are in play (or just further change over time) and once
left open for long enough, the environment will just seem like it was always that way. Even if the reason is your psycho roommates constantly staring
at the fridge with the door open.
If your roommate moves out, then your fridge will naturally be colder overall, even if it is barely noticeable (yet, at least you will save a few
pennies on your power bill every month and have better preserved food).
The poles are never going to go back to their old temperatures and with a little more time for dispersal, these cold spells (and colder global temps
in general) will more than likely be a thing of the past.
[edit on 9-1-2010 by GideonHM]