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US Government = deception

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posted on May, 21 2004 @ 06:17 AM
I`m one of those persons who supported the war in Irak because of the so called danger posed by WMD which were supposed to be in Irak.Now everybody knows that all this was/is a lie,no weapons have been
found,there wasn`t even an army capable of fighting
a battle.When i remember C.Powell at the UN security council pleading for support from the international community i feel disgusted that a man who had respect in that same international community lied with all means
he had !!!The USA were supposed to be the world`s hope for democracy and security but now it seems that
i no longer trust ANY government at all after all this, especially since the Abu Graib Prison abuse,those
images remember the world of Adolf Hitler/NAZIS,Stalin,
Pinochet,Saddam Hussein,Mussolini,the devil etc !!!
I live in Europe and now i completely agreed with the
Spanish decision of removing it`s troops from Irak,i hope
all European nations withdraw it`s troops from Irak.

This should become an American/Israeli issue only.
The US is putting the national security of European countries at risk with all these lies !!!!
I hope the UK,Poland,Netherlands,Italy,Bulgaria,Japan
and Portugal remove their troops from Irak !!!

posted on May, 21 2004 @ 06:59 AM
One has almost no other choice but to agree.

The reputation of this country is gone. We are no longer seen as the freedom fighters that established the USA.

The founding fathers knew that a government in charge would be a corrupt one. The Constitution of the United States of America, was written so that the PEOPLE of this country were in charge of the government, not the other way around.

Well guess what, they are takeing it from us. I know some people choose to not believe this, but this has been happening for some time. In secret, proposals are made, everyone remember where the notorious PATRIOT ACT came about. Put in place awfully fast wasn't it. I have never seen anything on capitol hill come to such a fast agreement and have it pass. Maybe that's because it was already in play.

You all know something isn't right, otherwise you wouldn't be on ATS, searching for the anwsers.
So what are WE THE PEOPLE going to do about it, keep rolling over and over AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN!


I love this Country and everthing it is SUPPOSED to stand for, I support the Armed Forces, even while I do not like and even would go so far as to say I hate how they have to do the job they volunteered for. No civilian is going to ever understand why a soldier does what they do, they never swore an oath to PROTECT FREEDOM (that is what they are swearing that oath to, when they say they will "protect the Constitution from ALL enemies foreign and domestic"), even while they take for granted the freedom they have.

I am obviously very passionate about this sort of thing, I have a good reason. I do not want people I do not know running my life or my country, telling me I have to keep paying higher and higher taxes. Makeing changes to the document I would die to protect!

Get with reality people, and maybe we can get our act together.


posted on May, 21 2004 @ 10:12 AM
You`re right Advisor !!!
There`s only one problem... it`s too late.
I believe all this is a part of a bigger plan set up
very long ago and it can`t be stopped anymore.

After the German invasion of Poland during WW2 Hitler
said:..."now even i can`t stop this anymore"... and that
is what`s happening here as well.

posted on May, 21 2004 @ 10:17 AM
no womd ??!!??

and what about the SCUD ??
warheads were exchangable !

and also people don't you understand that all the info the USA is giving about operations can be read also by the enemy ?
why should the USA help enemies by giving details what was found where and or destroyed ?

the public knows just a little bit to get the impression
and leave the enemy with the puzzle too.

for sur we will much later get the whole story

posted on May, 21 2004 @ 10:21 AM
I too agree with you Advisor.. and nicely said by the way.

I hate that we're over there fighting for whatever reason, but I love my country and will support the military in any way I can.

I am still a firm believer that WMD's will be found there, rather they really were Iraq's or even if we plant them there.

posted on May, 21 2004 @ 10:35 AM
I don't believe it is to late, but I do believe that the treshold has passed some time ago, where this could have been stopped and resolved without a true revolution.

To stop this now, I'm afraid that the american population will have to fight for their rights and take back their country by force.

Patriot acts I and II were designed to undermine the US constitution and alot of people already saw that this was happening. In a result, according to testimonies by people like Alex Jones, Mike Ruppert and Cynthia McKiney(sorry, those are at the moment the only sources I have about US lawmaking, but feel free to verify if your in the US), several local goverments in states and county's in the US(4 states and over 400 county's) have passed laws to block the patriot acts and the acts following it.

This is the start of a national uproar. If the local goverments are strong enough, they can complete blocking these acts that undermine the US constitution.

The only thing the shadow goverment can do to counter them is use force to take over those local goverment bodies and if I'm correct, thats what Martial Law is all about.

Don't dispair though, the US has a large and strong military and if enough people revolt, you don't have to be afraid that the entire US military body will be able to be used to oppres the US population, because all of them also have family and friends and alot of them will turn sides and reject the orders they are given by the military, if the US takes the fight to the people, the people won't stand all alone against this and have part of the US military to back them up.

Also do I think that if it gets clear that the US population fights against a shady goverment, they will get help from Europe and other country's to help the people.


posted on May, 21 2004 @ 03:21 PM
Come on NOGODSINTHEUNIVERSE ... if we have to attack a country because they have a few scuds or worse then WW3 would break out !!!

I believe this is all part of a plan designed long ago.The problem is that
unexpected developments have occurred with unknown consequences.

What if the new Iraqi government asks the coallition to leave ?

posted on May, 21 2004 @ 04:15 PM
ever been thinking what should have happend if a scud with nukehead had been fired and exploded in ISRAEL for example ?

the million dollar jetfighters hidden under the sand were no tinker toys too you know !

anyway something fishy started you can not clean it all over again and again without having all information at hand.

you don't have to see the fire but the smoke will tell you already what you may expect later on !


posted on May, 21 2004 @ 04:24 PM
That`s what i mean with the title of the post:

US Government = deception

The US government hasn`t been able to show us anything that justifies this war,this is a democracy remember ?...

What do you think will happen to US soldiers if captured from now on?

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