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Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by Seiko
Part of the problem is money management.
Lowering taxes wont fix mismanagement but it gies them less to mismanage. Maybe.
Taxes are a tricky beast because raising taxes doesn't always have the intended consequence of more revenue. If businesses cut jobs because demand goes down because people are over taxed then you end up with less revenue. Which is kind of similar to what we see happening now. Raise taxes in NY people move their families and businesses out of NY. Less revenue.
Nobody is saying feel sory for the rich. Most busness owner are not that rich. But even those that are.. we need them to have a desire to invest or we are screwed.
The new health bill is a hidden tax on the middle class,
Yes this is right.. It is a tax hike on the rich and the middle class
Would you feel happy if healthcare was extended to many and did not have impact on the regular small business man?
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
Then let them. If a company is going to blackmail the American people - "give us your money or we'll try to dick you over" then we don't need them. They can piss off to Somalia and enjoy a nice little government-free tax haven, if they really want.
You know I think if Obama pushes through all these new taxes then many more will move out of the country. Then you will really be screwed. The 3% rich and corp pay over 50% of the taxes in this country. So let them leave and then see how things work out for you.
Originally posted by HotSauce
reply to post by Janky Red
Ok let me explain this to you. When "Eisenhower taxed them at 90%" there wasn't a global economy where you could make stuff anywhere in the world and ship it to the USA cost effectively. Businesses have mastered taking jobs offshore. It would be NOTHING for Microsoft or GM or CISCO or Google. etc.. To pack up and move to another country nowdays. After WW2 Europe and Asia were destroyed. They had no capacity to manufacture because it was all in the process of being rebuilt. If you don't believe me read a history book or a book on modern day economics. This is not 1950 anymore. The world has changed.
OK - say what do you say to the modern appearance of the National Debt and Reagans
tax cuts?
There is a direct correlation - cause somehow letting the producers keep all the extra cash did not help the federal budget.
Originally posted by Seiko
reply to post by HotSauce
This is one of the most enlightened things I've ever heard you say. I disagree with you a lot, but I'm going to star this just because you made sense.
I still think lowering taxes isn't going to help, and you're wrong about the model of pre 60's economics not working. If the corporations control 90% of the wealth they should pay 90% of the taxes. Simplistic, but there it is.