Gallup Poll : Interesting Graph : Health Care

Gallup has an interesting poll.
Health Care USA
In general it appears to be a good idea.
When the specifics come out. -PelosiCare-
OMG! No!

So... I feel like now that Obama is president and making a big deal out of healthcare, of course the Republican party and affiliates are going to say they don't believe it's the government's responsibility - regardless of what they said before - because they simply don't support Obama or the healthcare bill.

Then again, you could also interpret it as people going "wait a second, now that we actually have the offer of the government guarantee of healthcare, it's not as good as we thought it would be.. abort mission!"

Very interesting stuff, indeed.

It's an interesting graph. Oh, the American people just fly about like a flag in the wind. Going whichever way the forces of politicians and government and special interest groups blow their breath. I'd like to see a graph about healthcare starting from 1992 to now. That could be interesting. No doubt, if a graph was made concerning each issue that has ever effected citizens, since the inception of the U.S. there would be lots of wavy lines.
I'd like to see a graph of opinion concerning Newt Gringrich's Contract for America, compared to his hints of a Contract for America Part 2.
We'll have to wait for the graph, of course.

And now, I will remark on graphs of public opinions in the U.S. The results of said graphs seem to me to be likened to the stripes on the U.S. flag while weathering winds. Ever flowing and ever changing. Just my .02 New World Order units. The smiley face is because it is coming and there isn't a damn thing you or me can do about it. So bend over and take it, or don't bend over and take it and squeal.

I'm such a pessimist, yes? Nope, just a realist.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


I tend to agree with you. In general, people support health care reform, but the devil is in the details. Its easy to support a general idea, but once the specifics it are put forth, it often looks much different than people expect or want. It certainly seems that this is the case here and the public really doesn't care much for the actual proposal in all of its 2000 page glory.

I find that rather interesting considering the following:

Rasmussen Reports
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 45% now favor the health care plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats. Most (52%) remain opposed.

Only 25% Strongly Support the plan while 42% are Strongly Opposed.

[...]

Other recent polling shows that 49% would rather see no health care legislation passed this year than see the current bill become law. Two-thirds (66%) say an increase in competition is more likely than increased government regulation to reduce the cost of health care. That’s one reason there is strong support for removing the exemption from anti-trust laws currently enjoyed by insurance companies.

Wonder which one is fudging the numbers.

Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

I tend to agree with you. In general, people support health care reform, but the devil is in the details. Its easy to support a general idea, but once the specifics it are put forth, it often looks much different than people expect or want. It certainly seems that this is the case here and the public really doesn't care much for the actual proposal in all of its 2000 page glory.

It's the same with the Canadian Health Care system.
When you first hear it, free health care in Canada it sounds
great. Then the details take all the air out of it.
They pay a GST tax when they try to buy a new car up there.


[edit on 15-11-2009 by Eurisko2012]

When you consider the margin for error in these polls is around 3%, the statistical difference between the yeas and nays is negligible. Looks like a dead heat -- today.

Just now people are reeling from the enormous PR attempts of the right to scare people out of their wits about health insurance reform.

After it's passed and people begin receiving benefits from it I think it will become more popular again.

Also, it's significant that until this poll was published the yeas were greatly in the majority for a long time. Before I take this poll seriously I would have to see a preponderance of the "nays" for an extended length of time.

HELL yes!!!

Stop enforcing ANTI TRUST laws!!!

For freedom!!!

reply to post by Sestias


If by "scare people out of their wits" you mean educate the people on what this behemoth of a health bill really means and what Pelosi and her cohorts have buried in the bill, then you got it, pal.

Implement this health care package and it will ruin this nation financially. But I guess you don't give a damn whether people can eat or not, so long as they all have access to medicine.

Originally posted by sos37
reply to post by Sestias

 

If by "scare people out of their wits" you mean educate the people on what this behemoth of a health bill really means and what Pelosi and her cohorts have buried in the bill, then you got it, pal.

Implement this health care package and it will ruin this nation financially. But I guess you don't give a damn whether people can eat or not, so long as they all have access to medicine.

Only thing it will ruin is a bunch of suits in the big insurance companies. Don't be a sucker. It's simple.. if a big greedy schmuck of a corporation doesn't like something to the point it goes completely ape#.. then whatever that something is, I can assure you is a GOOD thing. I no longer live in the USA but have family that does. They are getting bent over by the insurance companies. Why? Because it's a sadistic monopoly. I love watching them squirm because soon, they will not be the only game in town. Ok, you can get back to reading "Sarah Palin - Going Rogue"

reply to post by reasonable


I have no intention of buying that book. I don't trust the woman. The only way I would buy her book is to get it autographed and sell to some other Palin worshipper on Ebay for a profit. That's free enterprise. God bless America!

Also, I'll be the first to say that the insurance companies are a big part of the problem, but belieiving in Conservatism I think the government should not be imposing rules on private business unless they apply those rules to ALL private businesses. I think the best way to keep insurance companies as honest as they're going to get is to increase the number of players in the field - get rid of the out-of-state restriction for buying private insurance and you do just that.

[edit on 15-11-2009 by sos37]

All this poll means is that people are waking up and paying attention to what the congress critters are doing. Sadly, that doesn't usually happen until the excrement hits the rotating air circulation device.

I remember someone from congress claiming it would insure 96% of Americans. One of the things you hear is "36,000,000 without insurance". Okay, well, that's about 10% of Americans, which means 90% of Americans are already covered.

I also remember hearing that about 15,000,000 have the means to obtain health insurance but opt to not pay for it. That would leave 21,000,000 uninsured. That would mean that fewer than 6% of Americans don't have access or the means to pay for it. Assuming the remainder did go ahead and pay for health insurance, that would mean that 94% are already insured or have the means to obtain it.

So, they're going to ensure an extra 2% have insurance for only one trillion dollars, infringe on your freedom of choice and fine or jail you if you don't buy their insurance. Bravo, congress!

Get it through your heads people. Congress doesn't give a rat's hindquarters about you as an individual. Congress is less about representing constituents than it is big business and it's been heading this way for awhile now.

reply to post by Graybeard


Okay, that's great.

Now factor in all of the people whose Healthcare coverage is inadequate, because the provider won't pay for all of the things that the person needs. Just because a person has healthcare coverage doesn't mean it's anywhere NEAR what they need. Now factor in all of the people who get charged ridiculous amounts of money by companies who profit off of the misfortune of others, and combine that with the amount of people who can't get decent coverage for things such as mental health because providers simply won't care to provide it because it is deemed unnecessary.

Unnecessary, just like most preventative medicine is viewed today in America. It's awesome - why prevent an illness from occuring when you can just pump your veins full of every antibiotic on the market (that isn't namebrand, of course).

In short, you aren't looking at the whole picture at all, and are selecting the facts which suit your argument the best - not the ones which tell the true story. And I consider myself pretty critical of the president.

But with a final note, I find it humorous that you criticize Congress when it's trying to provide Americans with healthcare, yet you complain that Congress only cares about big businesses. Make up your mind?

Well.. at least i know this country is full of people that would rather see the people die and suffer than pay a couple of more dollars in taxes....

.... oh well.. irrational fear of socialism over people
---------------money over humanity and community .. what a great country



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