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Matters Come to an Explosive Head for Everyone?

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posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:08 AM

Matters Come to an Explosive Head for Everyone?

On both Monday 9th and Tuesday 10th November 2009, very strenuous attempts were made by the international ENFORCEMENT forces (Chinese, British, Swiss etc) with assistance from US agents, to complete the Settlements payments process. On both days, the process was yet again frustrated, and on Monday we were told that the problems arose in the United States. Late on Tuesday British time we were informed that French President Sarkozy was furious at the continued intransigence of the criminal cadre, also known as the Shadow Government (referred to by some US pundits as ‘the Corporation’), which
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posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:08 AM
First of all, I am just posting this because i saw it online and decided to post it. I am not sure it is 100% reliable, but still i decided to post it, and see if anything that is claimed in this website can be corroborated.

BTW, yes there are mentions of donations in that website, but you don't have to donate ANYTHING....

I posted this just to see if any of this can be corroborated, so don't go around trying to chop off my head, and i know some of you would love to do this.

Anyway, there are a couple of points that peaked my interest.

First of all is the mention of the "Corporation" as being part of the "Shadow Government." Some of you might remember some of my posts calling this "Corporation" which President Obama, and the Democrats gave power to with some bills they signed into law giving power to something they call "The Corporation."

I am not active duty in the military, and to get in contact with my friends who are will take me quite a while, but maybe some of you have better luck than me in doing this.

I am posting this on the BAN, just in case what is claimed in this website happens to be true.

Let's start corroborating the information, or debunking it.
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[edit on 13-11-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:36 AM
The following is an article which might be of importance and concerning th OP.

One day in late summer 2008, FBI and Secret Service agents flew to Chicago to inform Barack Obama's campaign team that its computer system had been hacked. "You've got a problem. Somebody's trying to get inside your systems," an FBI agent told the team, according to a source familiar with the incident.

The McCain campaign was hit with a similar attack.

The trail in both cases led to computers in China, said several sources inside and outside government with knowledge of the incidents. In the McCain case, Chinese officials later approached staff members about information that had appeared only in restricted e-mails, according to a person close to the campaign.

American presidential campaigns are not the only targets. China is significantly boosting its capabilities in cyberspace as a way to gather intelligence and, in the event of war, hit the U.S. government in a weak spot, U.S. officials and experts say. Outgunned and outspent in terms of traditional military hardware, China apparently hopes that by concentrating on holes in the U.S. security architecture -- its communications and spy satellites and its vast computer networks -- it will collect intelligence that could help it counter the imbalance.

President Obama, who is scheduled to visit China next week, has vowed to improve ties with the Asian giant, especially its military. But according to current and former U.S. officials, China's aggressive hacking has sowed doubts about its intentions.

"This is the way they plan to thwart U.S. supremacy in any potential conflict we get into with them," said Robert K. Knake, a Council on Foreign Relations fellow. "They believe they can deter us through cyber warfare."


That's just one of the reports which "might" be linked to what is claimed in the op. All other information about the "Chinese signing papers on the world court to execute their liens on U.S. treasury" takes me to websites like,, replies at the Huff about the article, etc.

Because of this i am not too sure the information at is that reliable, and it seems to be more of a rumor, at least for now, than anything else. But who knows. The Chinese government have been certainly trying to subjugate the U.S. to it's will, as well as the rest of the world, and they were one of the countries calling for a new World Economy in which China, and Russia, among some other countries would be the ones in charge of. They are also certainly doing things as if the United States is still a possible enemy even when we have a Progressive/Democrat/Socialist as president, and his entire administration are advocates of giving up U.S. sovereignty over to bodies like the UN.

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:42 AM
Another interesting article, which happens to be true.

U.S. Grows More Dependent on China
Global Crisis Makes U.S. More Dependent on China than Ever

China is bursting with self-confidence. The new world power sees itself as a winner in the financial crisis, with its economy growing by an impressive 9 percent in the third quarter, while the economies of the West struggle to recover from a deep recession. And while the Americans are focused on their own problems, China is expanding its influence, both in Asia and among resource-rich African countries.

China's leaders are challenging the Americans more and more aggressively, not least to demonstrate to their own population of 1.3 billion how far the country has progressed under their leadership.

In an article in the party organ of the People's Liberation Army, Air Force General Xu Qiliang announced China's plans to expense its defense capabilities deep into space in the future. By the mid-21st century, the general predicted, the People's Republic will have become a world power, and its air force will be required to defend the country against many kinds of threats.
Obama describes his foreign policy as a new age of cooperation. He is seeking to develop a relationship with a Chinese leadership that he needs more than it needs him. About two-thirds of China's foreign currency reserves are denominated in dollars. Any abrupt shift on the part of Beijing would threaten the stability of the US currency. Cheap imported Chinese goods help push up the American standard of living and minimize the risks of inflation.

Washington has been particularly enthusiastic about China's economic stimulus programs: the Chinese launched the world's biggest investment program after the start of the financial crisis. Without their spirited course of action, the world economy could very well have imploded. Beijing's stimulus program amounted to about 13 percent of Chinese gross domestic product, making it almost twice as large as the US program and close to five times the size of its German equivalent. Obamas economic team has been deeply impressed by the success of Chinas stimulus policy.


[edit on 13-11-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:50 AM

China's End Run Around the U.S.
As more free-trade deals exclude America, Beijing could dominate a new Asian trade bloc

Beijing - President Barack Obama makes his first state visit to East Asia on Nov. 13-19. He'll start off in Tokyo, attend a meeting of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum in Singapore, travel to Shanghai and Beijing, then finish up in Seoul.

It's a cover-the-waterfront trip, but the focus is on China, America's key trading partner and rival. The Obama team will express its concern that Beijing aims to boost locally owned companies, from commercial aircraft makers to express delivery services, all at the expense of foreign competitors. Washington also wants China, which has more than $2 trillion in foreign reserves, to let the yuan appreciate against the dollar. Finally, Obama and top Cabinet officials will press Beijing to stoke consumer demand at home and rely less on exports to drive growth. Rebalancing the economies of China and other Asia nations "is perhaps the most important thing we can do to restore growth and jobs in the U.S.," explains one senior White House official.

Beijing will likely respond by playing up the country's accomplishments: a huge stimulus package that pumped up spending at home and kept the world from sliding deeper into recession; signs of an increase in consumption; and a modest appreciation of the yuan over the last five years. China's ministers will also point out that Washington has its own work to do, especially in cutting the U.S. budget deficit, bolstering the dollar, and devising regulations to prevent another blowout.

What happens in Beijing next week will undoubtedly be important to U.S.-China trade relations. But trade developments throughout Asia will likely affect the American position in the region as much as, or more than, those meetings in Beijing. Even while it keeps up the dialogue with Washington, China is essentially doing an end run around the U.S. in Asia by pursuing a bewildering variety of free-trade pacts with its neighbors. "What China is doing is very smart and logical," says Linda Menghetti, vice-president of the Emergency Committee for American Trade, a Washington group representing U.S. multinationals. The White House, transfixed by problems at home and its own diplomatic dance with China, trails its rival in sewing up trade deals. The result could be a trade bloc dominated by the mainland.


What these links are showing is how truly dependent the U.S. is now on China, and the Chinese government can at their on whim decide to bakrupt the U.S, and the rest of the world and put us all into their pockets, which is most probalby what will happen eventually.

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 12:10 PM
I am not finding any evidence from other sources that back what is claimed on the OP, although SOME of the things spoken about seem to be at least partially true, for the most part every website I have read about this mentions the article I give at the OP as the source.

So for now I have to say this is mostly rumors that I can't corroborate.

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 02:32 PM
China doesn't even have to dump US treasuries and dollar reserves to seriously damage the US economy. All they have to do is stop buying them.

The US government is running a massive monthly account deficit...simply to keep the lights on in the Capitol building and to keep the president's limo gassed up (to say nothing of maintaining a two-front war, a nuclear arsenal, or social security), the gov't must borrow month-to-month. If China were to choke off or radically reduce its purchases of US paper, the US government would literally grind to a hault, or be reduced to using the printing press. With the Fed buying more and more treasuries, in a sense this lattter process is already well underway.

[edit on 11/13/09 by silent thunder]

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 09:55 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Why isn't this the BIGGEST story out there? Am I missing something?

Is this source "World Reports Limited" the real deal or is this some twisted 'joke'?

Please, please, someone confirm that these old SOB's are FINALLY going to be rounded up and brought to justice. I don't care if the Chinese, the French or the Brits do it - JUST SOMEBODY STOP THEM!!!

And yes, yes, please, please do it in front of the cameras! If we got to see them put a rope on Saddam we should see them taking these SOB's away in hand cuffs. ALL OF THEM ! ! !

Maybe then the people in the USA will feel they can begin to exercise their rights of citizenship again without fear of being IGNORED or RIDICULED by the 'Powers That Be'.

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:04 PM
reply to post by TOSFORUS

With all due respect, Keep your passions in check for a bit longer; I have often found that some stories have more behind them than most imagine, and some have less.

We should examine the source's source when something this big is claimed.

posted on Nov, 13 2009 @ 10:18 PM
I think the most important thing to remember is that the Chinese are in a codependent relationship with the United States and our Corporate Oligarchs and Federal Reserve.

Not only is China’s economy very dependent on export to the United States but it’s infrastructure is now heavily reliant on Middle Eastern Oil and in case no one has really noticed U.S. Military Boots stand on top of every significant source of Middle Eastern Oil except for Iran which is actually in Asia.

The reality is if Mother Theresa came back to life and was running Iran we would find something to vilify her and her government about.

Our strategy is to control as many of the world’s major oil reserves and China’s infrastructure is reliant on that oil.

Basically if we told the Chinese Government it had to buy used pop cycle sticks at a billion dollars a piece to get the oil it needs to keep it’s infrastructure up and running it will.

Most of the open conflict over the U.S. Debt to China is a red herring aimed at manipulating world wide financial markets and to give the Federal Reserve leverage in maintaining it’s secrecy as well as convincing tax payers things like huge bailouts to the banks are required.

China is for all intents and purposes owned by U.S. and European Oligarchs and Bankers and controlled by U.S. and European Oligarchs and Bankers, it is their model New World Order State a highly efficient and productive hybrid of communism and capitalism. A communist and totalitarian police state for the workers and masses, more freedoms and power for the police and security and party officials, more power, money and freedom for the managers and total power, wealth and freedom for the rulers and owners.

This in fact will soon be China’s leading export to nations all around the world as their governments buckle under the orchestrated by highly fictional weight of a so called debt based financial crisis.

The reality is the United States Dollar is simply paper attached to nothing of wealth. The Chinese Juan is nothing but paper attached to nothing of wealth.

The progressive rock and roll band the Police wrote and performed a song “Murder by number” and that’s all this is the murder of our freedoms and way of life simply based on the simple manipulation and presentation of meaningless numbers not attached to one single solitary thing of wealth besides the paper they are printed on.

What a scam. I wonder why people keep falling for it? Money is the root of all evil!

[edit on 13/11/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 04:50 AM

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I think the most important thing to remember is that the Chinese are in a codependent relationship with the United States and our Corporate Oligarchs and Federal Reserve.

Not only is China’s economy very dependent on export to the United States but it’s infrastructure is now heavily reliant on Middle Eastern Oil and in case no one has really noticed U.S. Military Boots stand on top of every significant source of Middle Eastern Oil except for Iran which is actually in Asia.

Although there are somethings i agree with you on, such as the fact that the Socialist/Communist model of China is what the Socialist elite seem to want for the entire world. However, you are wrong when you claim that China depends on the U.S., or that the U.S. owns China... The only one who owns China, is China, or in this case the Socialist/Communist Party of China.

Years ago in these same website some other members and myself were pointing out the fact that China, Russia, and some other countries were calling for a new global economy headed mainly by China, and Russia.

Back then most of the responses we got was to claim that China would never do anything to undermine the U.S., yet we have seen the oposite for several years now.

Now, when the time comes for China to call on the U.S. debt to them, and the United States will have almost nothing to give back, what do you think the Chinese will do, and will ask for?

What are the resources that China really needs? They have deals with ME (Middle Eastern) countries, SA (South American) countries, and even African nations for oil. They don't need the U.S. for oil.

Consumers? They can always turn towards a more Socialist Europe, more obedient to the demands of China, and which has a population that can easily replace the U.S. for consumers.

No, what the Chinese and the Russian governments want is "power, land, and resources other than oil."

The United States is in many ways an untapped source of resources which for the most part have been untouched because of strict environmental laws. But we also have Wyoming as the largest producer of coal, not to mention natural gas, and the breadbaskets which are being systematically strangled by none other than the U.S. government, as much needed water for many farms accross the nation has been shut off due to new "environmental" regulations which just popped out of nowhere for some strange reason at the same time that we have been, and are in a deep economic crisis.

When the U.S. has nothing to pay back the debt, China will demand for land, an the use of resources in those lands, and thanks to the "environmental laws" the Chinese goverment will have plenty of resources to get from the U.S.

Feds grant eminent domain as collateral to China for US debts.
February 26, 2009
Beijing, China -- Sources at the United States Embassy in Beijing China have just CONFIRMED to me that the United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People's Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China's con More..tinued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!

The written agreement was brought to Beijing by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and was formalized and agreed-to during her recent trip to China.

This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take -- inside the USA -- land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.

Put simply, the feds have now actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to "take" all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.

This could be one of the ways for the Chinese to eventually take over the U.S. and assume power as the first, or one of the first world powers, alongside Russia. The Chinese government cannot afford for the U.S. to recover, hence they will eventually let the U.S., and much of the western world go into ruins for their main goal to be fulfilled.

Russia wants the U.S., and NATO, completely out of Europe entirely, not to mention that they are proclaiming most of the North Pole is theirs, and the only country that could pose a problem is the United States.

I mean, what is the Canadian government going to do? send their 6 "war canoes" to fight off the Russian take over of the Arctic? No offence to our Canadian members, but even they should know the truth to this statement.

Then there is the fact that the only thing stopping the Chinese from taking entirely over Taiwan is........the United States....

So it is a win-win scenario for China, and Russia if the U.S., and most of the western world succumb under the economic crisis. They can pick up the pieces that are left and just take over what they ALWAYS wanted to take over.

[edit on 14-11-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 06:50 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Here is an article by A. True Ott, PhD, ND from Feb 28, 2009. He lists 13 dot points, starting back in the 1950's, that lead up to the same item that China has been given the legal right to take private property in the USA by Eminent Domain.

Dot #1 China begins its covert war on the FREE American republic in the 1950's by taking over much of the PHARMACEUTICAL DRUG manufacturing for American and British Big Pharma. This is an outgrowth of the Rothschild's OPIUM RING PROCESSING by the British West Indies company during the 1800's, and is brokered by the "City of London" and Washington D.C.

Dot #2 Arch-illuminist and satanist Henry Kissinger "normalizes" trade relations with China during the Nixon years.

Dot #3 Eventual LDS (Mormon) Church President Gordon B. Hinckley, via the church-owned Polynesian Cultural Center in Hawaii, establishes a "hard currency" pipeline with Bejing, exchanging bank "trade credits" for CIA/BRITISH MI6 DRUG SERVICES RENDERED into hard GOLD AND SILVER while hiding behind the cloak of "World Religion". This is facilitated via the LDS-Church built and controlled "Shenzhen Special Economic Zone" adjacent to Hong Kong. When Hinckley is made LDS President, his first "official" visit as "World Prophet" is to China, where the Chinese Communist leaders give him a hero's welcome and a confetti parade. (See attached paper --- "Pensees of a Puzzled Pilgrim" pp 5-6 and Desert News, June 1, 1996 article: "President Hinckley Visits China").

Dot #4 Arkansas natives Bill Clinton and Sam Walton massively increase contracts with China's factories over 2,000%. This results in a tremendous imbalance of trade with China. Thanks to the Mormon "Special Economic Zone" -- China's communist leaders begin amassing incredible "real" wealth in gold and silver.

Dot #5 China purchases TRILLIONS of dollars worth of U.S. Treasury Bills and Bonds, paying for it with gold and silver provided by the Shenzhen Economic Zone exchanges. Much of the U.S. "national debt" is purchased from the private "Federal Reserve" banks in this manner.

Dot #6 Dr. Jeff Taubenberger of the U.S. Institute of Pathology in Ft. Dedrick MD, (The world headquarters for biologic weapons development) successfully maps the genome of the 1918 killer "flu" virus responsible for the 1918 "pandemic" that killed millions.

Dot #7 December 2005: The Chinese Defense Minister, Chi Haotiaon delivers a speech to the Chinese military leaders outlining the inevitable "expansion" of China into Canada, the U.S., and Australia -- He justifies this because of Chinese racial "superiority" and thus "emminent domain". To accomplish this, American would first have to be "Cleansed" by means of a powerful "biological weapon" --- causing 150 -200 MILLION AMERICAN DEATHS!!! The plan would be enacted AFTER the symbolic OLYMPIC GAMES beginning at the sacred day of 8-08-08 are concluded. China begins buying oil and gas futures, spiking the worldwide prices to historic levels.

Dot #8 March 13, 2008: A secret meeting is conducted for the U.S. House and Senate. Agents of the Club of Rome give a preview of upcoming events to elected officials who first swear an oath of secrecy. The traitors are briefed that the economy will begin its collapse in October, 2008 -- and will TOTALLY collapse in mid 2009. As events unfold in 2009-2010, Congress was told of the real possibily of massive civil unrest and even Civil War being waged. Detention camps constructed to imprison civil 'agitators'. See

Link to all 13 points

posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 06:55 PM
reply to post by TOSFORUS

Here are the remaining points:

Dot #9 In September, 2008 -- as soon as the Olympics are concluded, China stops buying oil and gas futures while dumping U.S. Treasury bills and bonds. Gasoline prices plummet, while the U.S. mortgage loan money becomes tightly constricted. The Club of Rome's agenda is being implemented perfectly.

Dot #10 In October, just as explained in March, the economy indeed begins its collapse with mortgage banks going bankrupt as the Chinese dump their U.S. Securities. This causes a world-wide "rush to liquidity" as money supplies DRASTICALLY tighten.

Dot #11 Billions of worthless U.S. Government "bailout" debit entries are given to bolster failing U.S. Banks. These are "worthless" because China now controls most of the U.S. "REAL" wealth in the form of gold and silver. China refuses to continue investing credit loans to the U.S. Treasury.

Dot #12 Barack Hussein Obama is elected, promising "Change you can believe in." After taking office in January, Obama sends Hillary Clinton on a critical mission to China and helps write H.R. 45 -- a complete grab of America's guns ala Adolph Hitler. State leaders who understand what Clinton and Obama agenda with China is about, are seeking legal "Sovereignty" to prevent the loss of property to a foreign power.

Dot #13 China agrees to continue investing in U.S. Treasury Bills only after securing the right of "eminent domain" to physically repossess foreclosed American PRIVATE PROPERTY. This move is the equivalent of an unconditional surrender following a bloody war.

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