Knights Templar Still Exist?

Originally posted by JoshNorton
You had me until you brought up the Priory of Sion, a hoax that was established in 1956, many centuries after the Templars...

On the contrary ...

Where I say Priory of Sion I am simply referring to what it is "widely" known as in the conspiracy circles. I believe that it has gone through many names in the past and may have included the Rosicrucians.

Have you read The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail?
I personally believe that after having read that I am 99% convinced that a "Priory of Sion" did exist behind the Templars and put them into the position that they were in when they found the "treasure" in the Holy Land.

There must have been a force behind the original nine knights that went to Jerusalem because why on Earth would the King have given them such a lavish barracks on such a sacred place as Temple Mount? Nine random knights from Europe who claim they wanted to help pilgrims (yet no evidence, to my knowledge, exists that shows that they did) get offered such fantastic quarters?

It just doesn't add up.

Out of interest could you direct me towards this hoax in 1956? I am aware of the Priory of Sion being listed in French records as a "secret society" and assume you are alluding to this?

Thanks

reply to post by george_gaz

It's been 20 years, but yes, I've read Holy Blood, Holy Grail and even then, in pre-WWW days, I knew that Plantard had perpetrated a hoax. (Don't reacall how I knew that, but I thought it was all covered in HBHG, to be honest.)

Regardless, the wikipedia page is quite detailed in its account. And curiously enough, while at the top of that article it states "a name given to multiple groups, both real and fictitious", the article really doesn't mention any real or historical usage of the name predating 1956.

If you've got pre-Plantard conspiracy books that mention the Priory by name, by all means list them here. My guess is that every "reputable CT" that you want to list is forked from this one hoax and has no basis in fact.

(Edit to add...)
Just checked my 1921 printing of Nesta Webster's World Revolution and my 1934 printing of Edith Starr Miller's Occult Theocracy, two bibles for conspiracy theorists (despite their inaccuracies) and neither of them list any Priories among their indices. I don't have my Robison handy at the moment, but I don't think the Priory is mentioned there either, if I recall correctly. So how is it that you claim this "widely known" organization that you say has been around for centuries is not mentioned in any of the classic text?

[edit on 11/6/2009 by JoshNorton]

Originally posted by JoshNorton
So how is it that you claim this "widely known" organization that you say has been around for centuries is not mentioned in any of the classic text?

Hi Josh,

My bad, I don't think that I was clear enough in what I said earlier.

When I said "widely known as the Priory of Sion" I mean that people will call it the Priory of Sion because that is the most famous or "widely known" name for it. For example, in the Davinci Code it is called the Priory of Sion, thus has become widely known as this.
I believe that the "Priory of Sion" as a "force behind the Templars" did exist from the very beginning but was not called the "Priory of Sion" until much later. Possibly the name Prior of Sion came directly from this hoax that you mentioned.
I have read HBHG a few times and was not aware of them exposing Plantard as a fake? I recall them thinking that he was genuine. Maybe there has been a later edition to the one that I have where the authors state this?

[edit on 7-11-2009 by george_gaz]

YES

truth be told, there are many PUBLIC faces of the Knights Templar, from Masonic Orders to Catholic / Vatican / Christian orders of the Knights Templar.

They each claim to operate differently with different goals. However, they are the SAME organization, with the same elements and key structures of thier secret SOCIETY, either masonic or non, catholic or non, they are all the same group, they are KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. they observe and practice the following:


-must be Christian and swear to Defend the Christian Faith
-Use the RED CROSS (Rosicrucian, rose croix) (RED CROSS INTERNATIONAL)
-Heal the "SICK" / Help the poor / spread the faith
-use the Cross and Crown and or Olive branch (UN, masonry, KT)
-engage in ritual, rites, and degrees

they are the same Judea-Christian-Masonic-Islam organization, the one and only KNIGHTS TEMPLAR

they are ALL THE SAME organization and elite cabal brotherhood, although they have many "splinters" or "tentacles" or "sects". They each provide key roles in the Knights Templar as a whole and are heavily integrated within the New World Order, Vatican, Masonry, Christianity, and essentially all major religions (WT/JW, Mormons, Seven Day Adventist, Presbyterian, Protestant

Same people. essentially the same beliefs in each group, they are the Knights Templars. The Temple, The Bankers. The Corporation of London.

Virtus Junxit Mors Non Separabit!!!

Of course!

And while we're at it, let us not forget the Ordo Templi Orientis. (Or maybe we should forget it).

Let's not bring those post Victorian hippies into this.

I wouldn't come out of hiding if I were them, I truly believe that they do still exist, and that they hold with them the secrets they held then.
I would not be surprised if they have ever tried reaching the Holy Land again, or are in fact there now.
But they still are, in the eyes of the church, heretics. Although I never did believe, nor will I, that they urinated on the cross and kissed up the bottom as stated, however the head of Baphomet is possible, or John the Baptist is one that always stuck out....

What do you think it is they held?

My Grandfather was a member of the "york" rite knights templar. I have everything from his membership, cant make much sense of most of it. He died 1972. Was in WWI. Graduated Dartmouth 1914. Kindofa badass from what I learned of him. He and his brother bought up land in all sorts of remote places that I am still administrating to this day. His foresight is what has made my life comfortable. I have heard all the satanic conspiracy theories and several of my very close friends have bought into it. I just have a hard time believing he was in any way involved in anything that was not 100% true blue American.

BTW GGGGranpa Nathan was the town blacksmith in Salsburgh, NC.
B. 1714
He was known for his skill and ability being a builder of rails. Such said rails were frequently used to give rides to royalists who were in need of transportation back to whence they had come after they had been properly been blessed with rations of tar and feather.

Just like ol' Granpa Nate, I too am am a philanthropist.

reply to post by Idahomie


The satanic stuff is all BS. Don't worry a bit. Your grandfather was a mason, and you have to be a good man to become one. He sounds like he was very good as business as well. You are lucky to have such lineage.

reply to post by Idahomie

I am also a member of the Masonic Knights Templar in the York Rite and enjoy it very much. Your Grandfather sounds like he lived a great life.

If I assume from your name you hail from the Gem State. I live in Boise myself.

Originally posted by BigCity1
Do the Knights Templar exist today? I'm not talking about the Freemasons Scottish Rite, I am wondering if the actual Knightly Order is still in existence in secret or otherwise.

Yes, yes they do

s839.photobucket.com...

reply to post by Soupornuts


I am not finding any relation to the Knights Templar with your photos. The skull and bones flag has multiple meanings. Also called The Jolly Roger, it was used by Pirates.
The rest of the photos seem to no have anything at all to do with Templar Knights either.

They are looking for new members. You can join here:-

www.theknightstemplar.info...

I've been told that the Knights Templar were originally the founders of the masonic order and other splinter groups, so if they do exist it is likely they are not from a legacy of Templars.

Originally posted by alldaylong
They are looking for new members. You can join here:-

www.theknightstemplar.info...

Do you know if the NWO has a website with applications?

I doubt the REAL templars would have a www for recruits lol

reply to post by Dagrlol

That is just a theory and myth. There also exists documents that say Freemasonry predates the Templar Order by 200-years.

Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Dagrlol

 

That is just a theory and myth. There also exists documents that say Freemasonry predates the Templar Order by 200-years.

Link?

I find masonry fascinating, anything will be useful.

Here are just a few examples of people who believe the Templars were heavily involved in banking and may be the founders of our world banks and banking system. That the Templars actually transitioned into bankers and it is in this form they are found today.

en.wikipedia.org...
www.infobarrel.com...
www.middle-ages.org.uk...

I believe that this is most probable. I think any connection to the Templars and the Masons is either imagined or contrived, made up from lies of those who founded the Rites to make those Rites more popular and mysterious. I suppose it could be possible if a masonic wing of the Templars existed, these may also be involved in world banking but the Masons on ATS would not have first hand knowledge of this, those Rites would not have anything to do with real Templars and simply probably use the Templar name in error.

Originally posted by Dagrlol

Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by Dagrlol

 

That is just a theory and myth. There also exists documents that say Freemasonry predates the Templar Order by 200-years.

Link?

I find masonry fascinating, anything will be useful.

Here you go.