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What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions. This is not finger pointing, this is fact.
"White race as a whole"- what does this mean, everyone, including my 2 year old white daughter- what about my white mate in London who has never racially attacked anyone but was attacked by a couple of blacks who used racial abuse when doing so?
It is most certainly finger pointing and devoid of being a "fact"
Did the woman in this story who watched black men anally rape then murder her boyfriend, before getting gang raped herself, chemicals poured down her throat and then murdered have "white privilege"- what privilege is that exactly.
Does Michelle Obama have "black privilege", with her jet setting and wealthy lifestyle beyond the dreams of most white people?
"white privilege"- is this enshrined in law, is there a law which encourages white progress? I don't think there is, in fact, I think any laws concering whites are not there to assist whites.
you are similar to the Nazi way of thinking, you are the black side of that white Nazi coin- they liked to segment, dehumanise etc- you are speaking from the same human wellspring
Obama the elite white, indeed, the Chinese white elite, indeed!
That poster has been running the country for 30 years, really!
This technique of SHAKEDOWN is what I call guilt conditioning technique.
This works by moving people back into a time warp in order to heap guilt on them and allow others to play through unquestioned and unchallenged on the work, moneys, and RISKS of others It is also cheap politics...of the cheapest type. It is also not leadership. Got it yet??
I read what you typed and it is racist and tried by subtlety and guilt manipulation to get over on others hoping that they will not catch on to your fingerprint.
What you are doing here is nothing new. It is however..cheap..no matter how sophisticated or righteous it appears to be..it is neither.
What motive and justification causes you to think that I am posting this view for your benefit?? I am posting this view for the other readers out here. Only narcissism of the elitist political type can cause someone to think this is particularly for them.
Are you like a woman who thinks they are sitting on the only one in town?? Ever heard of diversity. Diversity also means a difference in opinions and beliefs. Only a racist would concentrate so provincially on race alone.
Time warp and guilt techniques do not work on me.
They also do not work on many others and you are going to get a lot of replies to your posts when people reading this begin to see your posts for what they really are...a SHAKEDOWN. Just like Jesse and Al. It gets wolfie Empire...wolfie...because it is racism.
As to your motives..I already told you ..a SHAKEDOWN. Most of us are not interested in it. We have enough problems handling the day to day items in our lives...and these items are private..not public. Got it now??They are not subject to your guilt or time warp conditioning.
You are attempting to foist off by force ..coercion ..by guilt conditioning..these issues onto the shoulders of people not interested in them. They want to live and let live. To be left alone. To not bother anyone and not be bothered. This is called Americanism. The American way.
Because they do not carte blanche accept your guilt settings on your radio dial ..they are racists??
I think it is you who are a racist and you are attempting to default through on guilt and time warp techniques. Wolfie ....Empire..very wolfie.
I am not guilty because of who or whom I am. To do so is cheap politics of the lowest type...and uses racism by racists to attempt to entrench their points. I know now to use a shovel to dig them out and unroot them. Failing in that I know how to use Salt to get to them out as well.We are the Salt of the Earth Empire...not the sugar.
It is my duty to treat others as I would like to be treated..not motivated by guilt politics and racism to change my conduct to anothers belief system.
I don't know where from you get this belief system of yours but it is very cheap and also not American. It is however also very cheap politic.
People in politic today are attempting to take this to the next step in wealth redistribution. What they are not talking about is RISK redistribution. Which is why it is a SHAKEDOWN.
Wow!! This is very deep...very very deep. NOT!!!!
Not only are you playing the race card here but the sexism card as well.
That makes two strikes Empire..two!!
Comfort zone..what are you speaking about. What default are you attempting to take advantage of in your ignorance. I am a machinist and nuclear fueler by trade. I work in radiated and contaminated reactors for my moneys and at great risks...Not that I believe in PC..but merely pointing out that in an attempt to be PC you do the very thing you claim is being done by others. Talk about hipocrisy..your it Empire!!
could go on and on through your reply to me but this will suffice sufficient for the readers out here to see you for what you are.
You are subersive and occult in your methods.....in order to SHAKEDOWN into what you think is correct and justified/justice....Ordo Ob Chao..order from chaos. In this case..Occult being hidden or concealed behind guilt conditioning and reverse racicsm...but racism nonetheless.... By name....My thanks to you for giving me the fodder to demonstrate what you are doing. My thanks to all others for thier posts.
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions. This is not finger pointing, this is fact.
Originally posted by Alxandro
I heard a black say one time that blacks can't be racists, had a straight face when he said it too.
Given that, it's possible some blacks may actually think that black on white crimes are not possible.
What is the name of that river in Egypt?
I've addressed you in other threads, and you have a habit of making claims but backing out when forced to answer.
Move on.
...you think we ALL think like that?...
Originally posted by Raist
I can though point out a co-worker that has managed more success than me because she is not a white male. I can point to facts proving I do a better job than her and still her pay has surpassed mine while I have been at the job longer. She managed to get paid a large sum extra by meeting a manager in a motel room (also fact). Yet her incompetence at her job goes unpunished because the other managers are afraid she will claim racial motivations for her dismissal. I guess someone forgot to tell her about “white privilege” and that she is stepping outside of her “place”.
Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by took24
...you think we ALL think like that?...
No, read my post again.
Nowhere in my post did I use the words 'most' or even 'all', note how I used the word "some".
Don't be so sensitive, the OP is just pointing the double standard here.
Forgive me for pointing out. I can't help noticing, but you treat everybody you talk to with disdain,
you have a superior attitude which does not endear you to fellow board members, and in worse case it comes across as trolling.
Perhaps if you were less rude, you might find more people to agree with you (see my sig )
On topic, you wont find many raving racist lunatics on ATS, which is nice. So while I applaud you "speaking up for" blacks, you really don't need to be so hard on these good people.
The fact remains, there is a problem with black crime. There is also a problem with overcompensation from the media and other politically correct institutions, who make political capital out of agreeing with whoever is perceived to have moral authority.
At the moment, it's not great to be anybody. And in the UK and US at least, blacks have equal opportunities to everybody else.
This whole idea of white privilege nowdays is just antiquated and ridiculous. If you're talking about how white people in America are mostly representing positions of power, what else would you expect?
America is a predominately white country!
If i went to Africa I would not complain that their government and big business is run by black men, it would make no sense.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by Lazyninja
Forgive me for pointing out. I can't help noticing, but you treat everybody you talk to with disdain,
This is false, and what you’re pointing out is simply something from your overworked imagination. In fact, when you quoted me earlier (which you should not have because I wasn’t the one who posted the fraudulent jpeg) what was my response to you? I treat the members of this forum within the rules and regulations of the site.
What I’ve said is the white race, as a whole, has not taken responsibility for past transgressions. This is not finger pointing, this is fact.
Nice attempt at a dodge, but I have already referred to your post, and quoted you.
My question has nothing to do with sexism.
I am asking you to back up this statement by you, that I have asked about three times now.
And I’m not even talking about reparations for slavery, what I’m talking about partly deals with whites taking responsibility in the form of LISTENING, something many of you are quite inadequate at, when people ask you to.
No, you may not have directly committed the acts but if you benefit from it why not address it? Moreover, where is your compassion as a human being? If I knew my brother wronged someone, or my grandfather wronged someone, I would never stand bold and tell the person wronged that, "I didn't do it I'm not responsible.", especially if I benefit from the actions of the offending party.
No, contrary to what you believe, in this case you are either directly or indirectly responsible for the actions of others because you are the main beneficiaries of systematic racism and institutional deviance.