Manchester Airport starts trial of 'strip-search' scanner

Manchester Airport starts trial of 'strip-search' scanner

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Airline passengers flying from Terminal 2 at Manchester Airport today will be asked whether they have any objection to being strip-searched — although they will not have to undress.

The airport is launching a year-long trial of a controversial X-ray scanner that allows security staff to see through travellers’ clothes, in effect rendering them naked.

Such are the sensitivities surrounding the latest advance in aviation security that staff have been told not to call the machine a “body scanner” but instead to refer to “imaging technology”.

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I don't know - this technology leaves me with a really bad taste in my mouth. Surely there is no need to go to these extremes?
I am wondering if Israel uses this kind of scanner as well? They are known to have the toughest airline security in the world.

What is chances of abuse? Can static images be taken (snap-shots) - and how long before we see these images posted on Web?

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wtf the secuirty there is high enough damnit
when i went there last i was freakin patted down by like 5 secuirty staff cause my freakin nose stud went off in the metal detector.
this is rediculess Theres armed police there and everythng

Technology aside, what the hell is it with using Manchester as a test bed? The government wanted to us Manchester as a test bed for black boxes in cars, 'voluntary' ID cards and now this!

reply to post by Merriman Weir


Manchester must be the Centre of the NWO!

You would have thought they could pick a better city. I have never been there, but reading about it - it sounds .... uhm ... not my first choice to live. you know

Would you agree with this:

The renaissance of Manchester after the 1996 bombing and the Commonwealth games (together with the success Manchester made of the games compared to the mess London is making of the Olympics) has created an impression that Manchester is a city that can make thing succeed, and that other cities follow Manchester's lead.

uk.answers.yahoo.com...

reply to post by deltaalphanovember


shh

Manchester for life!.. well the Roman's were drawn to the hills where they founded Manchester so..who knows ^^

I'm a Mancunian and proud of it but i gotta agree with what people have said. Strange that our government use Manchester all the time. I seriously don't like this system they are implementing what if they can turn the negatives to colour? and have full nude pics of men,women and children?
won't be long till that's on the internet...

EDIT: Come to think of it we are like THE city of the north..so it kind of make's sense.. we have many political conferences here aswell for example a few days ago downtown manchester was on lockdown around the G-MEX where the conservative party were, we were also to test the congestion charge outside of London

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]

Honestly, I wouldn't care if I had to walk by one of these... but I would rather punch the machine operator right in the mouth and take a free pass to jail, than to let him peep my girlfriend walking by the same gizmo.

100% total invasion of privacy. Anyone who tries using this on my family will get what's coming to them.

reply to post by ninecrimes


Yep, I can imagine all the socially and sexually inadequate workers of the World of Customs flocking around this machine when they spot some gorgeous woman or celebrity waiting in line.

Luckily according to the BBC website , flyers DO NOT have to submit to a scan, if thats the case
A: will they be allowed on the plane after refusing the scan?
B: will they take you to a little back room and humiliate you with a full body search seeing as you didn't submit to the scan?
C: Those who wear Burkha and other face covering garments for religeous or culture purposes be allowed to simply pass the scanner, bypass the strip search and simply be allowed onto the plane as any scan or search is against their beliefs?

If thats the case I think I'd have to say that this scanner is against my moral code and an afront to my privacy, I WILL NOT allow myself or any member of my family to submit to the scan unless they wish to. and the fact that the BBC has stated that the suppliers of this device have stated there is little 'radiation' not enough to pose any health risk I for one will not believe them until they spend a whole year walking back and forth through the scanner to prove there is no danger to the public.

reply to post by DataWraith


Interesting points that you raise ... especially the religious or belief system objections.

In fact, what is the situation or guidelines at the moment regarding strip search of women wearing Burkhas?

I did chuckle when the lady in the video says the person viewing the image will be sat in a remote area of the airport, not in the search area, and that they will not be able to link the person being searched with the image.

Of course they will, otherwise it totaly defeats the object.

Whats the point of seeing a gun on an image, but not being able to link it to the person wearing it?

Oh well, at least they are giving people the option, for now.

CX.

Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by Merriman Weir

 

Manchester must be the Centre of the NWO!

You would have thought they could pick a better city. I have never been there, but reading about it - it sounds .... uhm ... not my first choice to live. you know

Would you agree with this:

The renaissance of Manchester after the 1996 bombing and the Commonwealth games (together with the success Manchester made of the games compared to the mess London is making of the Olympics) has created an impression that Manchester is a city that can make thing succeed, and that other cities follow Manchester's lead.

uk.answers.yahoo.com...

Whatever Manchester's success, it's actually despite the way the rest of the country feels about it and the rest of the North. There really is a North and South divide in this country, or more accurately, a line across the country running from Bristol up to Grimsby and this country as a whole suffers from incredible Londoncentricism.

Last year, the Tory think tank 'Policy Exchange' basically suggested governments abandon parts of the North as a bad job and that people living in many big Northern towns and cities should move away en masse to elsewhere.

One of the comments made me realise that I forgot about Manchester also being a potential trial for a 'super-casino'!

Originally posted by ninecrimes
Honestly, I wouldn't care if I had to walk by one of these... but I would rather punch the machine operator right in the mouth and take a free pass to jail, than to let him peep my girlfriend walking by the same gizmo.

100% total invasion of privacy. Anyone who tries using this on my family will get what's coming to them.

Go you! But you have no qualms about your girlfriend getting felt-up though? Most of the women I know who get patted down always tell me that quite often it seems a little more 'personal' than it needs to be, no matter what the gender of the person doing it.

reply to post by deltaalphanovember


Yep but at the moment there is an option to still use metal detectors and manual bag search...

It was only a matter of time before these scanners became common place at Airports and i'd say it will be a lot quicker and if you have nothing to hide it's ok although i wouldn't like to be seen naked by everyone at the airport!!

Only a matter of time before they are in place at Train Stations too and if it stops terrorism or crime on planes and trains then it's a good thing right?

People getting robbed, murdered, raped etc etc ... it will stop this on transport but will just lead to more of it on the streets i supopose.

You won't get anymore bombs bought on to planes or trains either....

Is nothing but a peeping tom device and having the sickos and perverted "watchers" out site and in remote areas will ensure that they will be able to play at will at full feeling their wildest desires in privacy.

Sick, sick, and more sick, those that have not problem exposing themselves publicly will submit to such devises.

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reply to post by Merriman Weir


It's a little different, I think... for some reason, I don't feel as bad about a frisk... I think it's because I think about how I (as a perma-horny male) would feel giving the scans. IE- if I felt a girl's breasts, it's a lot harder to get anything from it than seeing her full-frontal.

I can understand the need for security- so it's a "you've gotta choose one" situation. Take the frisk, or let them see you nude... I'll let them frisk me, and if they enjoy touching my junk or my girlfriend's boobs, whatever... but for them to parade her through a scanner, while I sit there watching them watch her naked on a screen... I just couldn't do it without lunging over the terminal and choking someone out.

I may be a weirdo, but I'm being honest

reply to post by Merriman Weir


I have to admit that i detest being 'patted down' it makes me get very angry at the person doing it... earlier this year when went abroad i was the one who had to be 'patted down' the next in line for a 'pat down' and i didn't like it at all... my bag was searched and all my underwear taken out... i started arguing with the guy saying 'it's not me you should be checking like this' i'm funking English i'm not a terrorist' etc etc so for me i'd prefer the scanner! It also felt like the guy wanted to touch me up a bit and i'm a guy! It's far less invasive than a scanner i believe...

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by deltaalphanovember

 

Only a matter of time before they are in place at Train Stations too and if it stops terrorism or crime on planes and trains then it's a good thing right?

My main problem with your statement is that people are saying exactly that - quite happily - as their freedoms and privacy are getting stripped away.

All this terrorism going on ... where??? I don't see it being any more than 20 years ago.
How much of your freedom was taken then the IRA were enthusiastically bombing London?

Remember, how we live now, for in 20 years time we will yearn for the days when we had the freedom of movement that we have now.
Our children will curse us for so happily giving up our individuality so easily.

reply to post by deltaalphanovember


I know what you mean but our freedoms are already non-abundant... we've always been searched before getting on a flight so i don't see much of a difference here...

Edit to add : Your kids may also thankyou for them not getting stabbed or shot on the train or plane and for their parents to still be alive.

We can't ignore that there are knives and guns being carried and people are willing to use them to mug you or kill you....

BTW i havn't read a newspaper for a while so i'd like to ask what's happening out there?

Am I the only one who thinks that these type of issues are simply schemes to make corporations/politicians financially richer at the expense of taxpayers?

The invasion of privacy and denial of liberty are just side effects.