Israel, US to simulate response to war

Israel, US to simulate response to war

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Israel and the United States, amid growing tensions with Iran, will simulate interoperability between missile defense systems this week during the biennial Juniper Cobra missile defense exercise.

The exercise, set to simulate a response in the event of war between Israel, the Islamic republic, Syria and Hizbullah, will begin on Monday and end on Friday. More than 1,000 American troops from the European Command in Stuttgart, Germany have deployed in Israel for the exercise - mostly in the Negev - in addition to some 15 missile ships, some of them carrying the Aegis ballistic missile defense

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[edit on 12/10/2009 by Mirthful Me]

I think that what is announced in the public arena, regarding war with Iran and what is actually being planned are two completely different things.

Publicly the Obama administration appears to be reaching for a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear crises, but behind the scenes it is likely that the plan all along has been for a Millitary strike on Iran, in conjunction with Israel.

The big question of course, is what means will they use to justify such a strike?

Two possibilities spring to mind..

1. Israel makes good on it's threats to strike Iran by the end of this year if serious sanctions are not imposed by the International community, dragging the US into the conflict to save Israel after the Muslim world explodes in retaliation.

2. TPTB orchestrate another false flag equal to 9/11 or even bigger, and the mainstream media somehow manages to portray Iran as the culprit. This would then justify a US attack on Iranian Nuclear facilities, but more importantly for the US, the removal of the current Iranian regime, and the destruction of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

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[edit on 13-10-2009 by Crakeur]

Originally posted by Eye On War

2. TPTB orchestrate another false flag equal to 9/11 or even bigger, and the mainstream media somehow manages to portray Iran as the culprit. This would then justify a US attack on Iranian Nuclear facilities, but more importantly for the US, the removal of the current Iranian regime, and the destruction of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards.

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I agree with your post completely - the above quoted point you made sounds plausible to me.

If it is so - I wonder what the time frame might be. The impact on markets, dollar and gold will make the NWO more money also.

Which way would the dollar go after an attack on Iran? It must go up I guess - which means gold goes down - which would explain the large short positions in gold by the gangster bank - and the Feds lack of action regarding the US dollar - hmm - small pieces of the larger picture I wonder?

I have been giving it some serious thought.

If a false flag event is constructed - the Chinese and Russians are unlikely to fall for the story. Their assets and positions in Iran are also important to them.

I think that Russia and China could then be forced to defend Iran - and if that happened, Israel will be under so much pressure - because it will get utterly smashed by Irans massive long range missile arsenal - that it might retaliate with nuclear weapons.

I think that would instantly spell the end of the US in the middle east - but I think Israel could be stupid enough to do it.

It would lose all support from anyone - and China and Russia would have every incentive and pretext for going all out to secure the middle east.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia would likely be very interested to listen to a bilateral Chinese and Russian offer to remove US influence from their countries - they hate the US. Its easy to conceive agents (terrorists they would be called of course) within those countries destroying oil distribution facilities to deny the US war machine oil.

Russia could send troops directly into Iran via the Caspian - or far more likely it would secure the Caspian pipeline by invading Georgia and Azerbaijan - then continuing through with troops into Iran.

China could invade Afghanistan directly - taking out any assets in Pakistan as well. I don't think they would, or should go further than that - securing Afghanistan would be enough.

After that, or even before - the Arabian states would be overjoyed to assist Iran in either sending troops into Israel, or Iraq or both. The US could quite possibly lose the entire middle east in a matter of weeks.

Israel is playing a very dangerous game - I'm sure everyone knows the stakes - if Russia and China decide to act - things will go very badly for the west.

[edit on 11-10-2009 by Amagnon]

Wait a second, i'm a bit confused can someone help me out??
how exactly does one qualify for The Nobel Peace Prize?
and where can I sign up?

there is no way Iran are going to back down here, neither should they IMO. so war is inevitable. terrifying really, when you think of the potential consequences.

I don't see a false flag happening, I see the US getting suckered by Israel once again.

Just send over a thousand missile defense specialists and 15 warships for this training exercise. Ooops, forgot to mention we're attacking Iran that week. Oh well, guess you better do something about those incoming missiles...

oh its gonna happen iran better be getting prepared think theyd hold the own a little longer than iraq but not much

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Do not automatically assume that other Arab, Muslim countires will jump to the defense of Iran in the face of an attack by Israel. The likes Of Egypt, Saudi Arabia are very suspicious and worried about Irans rising power in the region. And would be very happy to see Iran nullified. These countries are predominatly Sunni where as Iran is Shia, this mafes a big difference.

True Syria, and Hezbollah may respond to defend Iran, But Israel would defeat any kind of invasion or attack, they are just to powerful with regards to their armed forces. They would recieve huge assistance from the U.S whether in terms of equipment or acutal military help or probabley both.

I dont think the u.s. needs to do another false flag,the u.s. goverment will just do what they wish and it will then be more of a well whats done is done lets now get on with it. and the people will have no choice but get behind the goverments including allies like france an the uk. i think they are goin to do it.
but i may be wrong

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I completly agree with your post OP...
What im wondering is, do we possiblely face total nuclear war here or would the leaders of the world use their heads ?

Originally posted by Amagnon
If it is so - I wonder what the time frame might be. The impact on markets, dollar and gold will make the NWO more money also.

Which way would the dollar go after an attack on Iran? It must go up I guess - which means gold goes down - which would explain the large short positions in gold by the gangster bank - and the Feds lack of action regarding the US dollar - hmm - small pieces of the larger picture I wonder?

Nope. The price of oil would rise, which would depreciate the value of the dollar. The price of gold in dollars would go up too since the dollar has depreciated in value.

Life is different when you can't afford the gas for your car

Originally posted by Theomi
reply to post by Eye On War

 

I completly agree with your post OP...
What im wondering is, do we possiblely face total nuclear war here or would the leaders of the world use their heads ?

You don't respond with a full out nuclear attack unless you are being invaded. So if the middle east invades Israel, you could expect a "full-out" nuclear response from Israel towards the Middle East. Or if America invades Russia, then you could count on a nuclear exchange.

One thing that we always have to remember is that military's are always training. Another, is that the words "all options are on the table" were said even though that was leaning towards a peaceful resolution.

The key part here is, this is not a game of checkers. There are no rules that state you have to move one piece at a time and then wait to see what the other party does. If one option fails, the next option has to be ready to go.

My point being, just because we training going on does not mean that a peaceful route is just a front. A diplomatic solution would always be the best.

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Russia and China will not help Iran...they may help by letting supplies get through etc But no doubt they would rather let America/Israel do their job and then split up the booty,rather than a full on confrontation.China and Russia are global players,they play by the global rules.Neither are in a position to turn this into a full on confrontation and i very much doubt they will unless by doing so it is a coordinated attempt by all powers involved for a certain common purpose.

Didn't a former minister from Israel announce that they will attack Iran before Christmas and did not the President announce that Iran has until the end of this year.

But lets not forget the deal between the U.S. and Russia, no missiles in euro = free for all on Iran but africa is to be under the control of Russia.

Oh everyone is so busy busy lately.

I could be way off the mark, but when I first heard about the simulation my first thought was that Israel was attempting to show Iran that they don't want Israel to attack them. Kind of a "See, this is what we'll do to you" type of thing. Does that make sense to anyone else?

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Jenna, no that is not what is happening here. This is really a dry run to attack Iran or, Israel and the U.S. are going to attack Iran. The days of you push me and I'll push you back is for kids on school buses. Iranian leaders have stood at the pulpit recently and told Israel and the U.S. that they will wipe Israel off the map and cause most of the Islamic world to go against the U.S and any friendly nation that supports Israel and the United States. Sanctions will not work so there is not much left except to knock out Iran's capabilities for nuke weapons and delay WW-3...............KMG

reply to post by Eye On War


More likely regardless of what Obama's ideologies are, and his willingness to share a coke and a smile with enemies, he isn't an idiot, so probably understands Iran is stalling for time, and a military solution is inevitable. Better to prepare for a war that does not come, than to be caught off guard.

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I don't know about China, but there is no chance Russia would ever send troops to defend Iran. Having studied and lived in Russia for years, I can tell you with certainty the Russian people are no friends or Iran- greater Russians don't even like 'darker' southern Russians. The public would never allow Russian forces to be deployed to save Muslims. What business Russia does with Iran is monetary only, and D. Medvedev and V. Putin would rather lose a couple $billion, than the support of the population.

In my opinion, Russia would welcome chaos in the region, which would drive their largest export- oil and gas- to record levels, thus filling the Russian coffers far more than arms and equipment sales to Iran.