Chaos reigns at Detroit aid event

In defense of a city I was born in and lived there for many years, this could be almost any major city in the U.S., give them a break, unless you live in this area you can't know what the truth is. I would like to see some of them implement this program and see what happens.

Detroit was granted $15 million in stimulus money to help residents pay bills and their rent or find temporary housing for the homeless.

Detroit is among the nation's leaders in home foreclosures, and at least one in four households are in poverty.
www.clickondetroit.com...#

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why is anyone surprised at this? just look at africa. a few charities and religious orgs are trying to help them, but half the time they have to fight the local war lords just to get assistance to the people there. then there's the problem of religious charities that are not muslim in muslim countries in africa. they don't like other religions helping their poor because of the fear of conversion attempts. we've all seen photos of those people, skin and bones, flies crawling on their faces. seriously, if that can go on all these years, right under the noses of the leaders of their own nations, what do you think globalism will do? it has to equalize the economies between nations. first place it looks to do that is the middle and upper middle classes. pull 'em all down to the same place, so it's one big world of poor people. no more jealousy of your neighbor, cause he doesn't have anything either.

Originally posted by HunkaHunka
That's like telling someone who caught a cold they are going to die...

Please...

Where the hell have you been? The American gov't HAS been telling people this...

H1N1 and Flu Vax... Where have you been??????????





btw, WELCOME TO THE USSA

[edit on 8-10-2009 by CanadianDream420]

Originally posted by undo
it was flint that went down first, not detroit. the car industry was the backbone of the middle class. the cold war brought it under control with unions, and the globalists finished the job.

Well, it is true that Flint fell first. However Flint is not a Major Metropolitan center, even in the 60s when it's population peaked to two in a half times it's current population, it barely made it into the Top 100 cities in the United States. It might be Michigan's 5th largest city, but it is a drop in the ocean compared to the Top 50 Metropolitan centers of the United States.

However, Flint and Detroit are inexorably linked, sharing the same Fortune, Fate and Destiny with one another. I thought about mentioning Flint alongside Detroit in my post, but all but those in Detroit and Flint consider them one and the same. It's kind of like saying that Dearborn and Detroit are different, which besides their population demographics, they are pretty much in the same life boat.

fraterormus Flint fell so many years ago I cannot remember, maybe the sixties, has nothing to do with what is going on today, somehow they seem to be surviving in spite the the auto companies, especially GM abandoning them.

Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
It makes me sick that you are also an American and call yourself as such.

It makes me sick too. Really. I'd rather call myself Norwegian.

Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
When the economic war comes, I'll imagine all the rich think like you.

When the economic war comes? You mean it's not already here? That's pretty troubling.

If they think like me then I must be doing something right. If I can make it out of this economic crisis like they will then I'll be one happy guy.

Sorry I don't have sympathy for people who vote for officials based on skin color rather than policies and end up getting robbed because of it. If they would stop electing criminals just because they're black then maybe so many of them wouldn't be applying for assistance.

It is true that Detroit started to go downhill when Mayor Young was elected, he made the statement that you whites can stay north of 8 Mile Rd, it wasn't long when there was a mass business exodus from Downtown Detroit to the Suburbs, I worked Downtown during the sixties and lived in the New Center Area near Wayne State University where I went to college, actually the major change came after the 67 riots, I left in 66, those were great days before that time.

i think it was the 80s. here's a video about it showing the news reporting the closing, dated 1986



detroit was the next target. just took a bit longer

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well....Detroit like New Orleans has a long history of corruption, voting along color lines and devastating poverty....however after several years New Orleans is finally bouncing back - their population is still on the low side but there are many jobs available - over six thousand last count and climbing - and there is some real movement to clean out the corruption at the top - so if New Orleans can do it eventually Detroit will wise up and find a way - the people of New Orleans, white, black and immigrant population from all over the world have made an amazing recovery through hard work and perseverance, with some families still living apart and working in Texas and New Orleans to make ends meet - but the city has helped many start their own mom and pop businesses and does all it can to foster the entrepreneurial spirit..now if they could just get the crime rate down to a dull roar that would be the crowning achievement - cops are VERY corrupt so they have a ways to go in that department..

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Thanks undo, that was the straw that broke the camels back in the eighties, Flint was already a ghost town by this time, I remember going there in the mid-sixties and seeing shopping centers and commercials buildings closed down everywhere.

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i was born in detroit. lived in michigan till i was 26.
i'm 51 now. i remember what it was like back then, although i only drove past flint. never stopped there from what i recall. the tax on the dollar was 4% when i moved. the economy was struggling due to the influx of japanese cars, but it still managed to make a lot of very well off people. huge neighborhoods where the homes were priced in the million dollar range. and even bigger middle class neighborhoods, stretching as far as the eye could see. the middle class is the life blood of the economy. and it's going the way of the dinosaur so that it can be replaced with global poverty - -communal misery.

undo not as bad as you may think, Detroit still has much to offer.
1. Detroit Instituted of Arts
2. Detroit Science Center
3. Fisher Theater
4. Detroit Opera House
5. Detroit Lions
6. Detroit Tigers
7. Detroit Red Wings
8. Greek Town (best in the country)
9. Wayne State University
10. University of Detroit
11. Detroit Symphony
12. Three Casino's
13. Great Restaurants

My daughters and their husband go downtown all the time and are not afraid, I will say that it's the suburbs who support most of these institutions. There are still million dollars homes and way above that in the Detroit area...try Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills and the Grosse Points.

Originally posted by Aquarius1
There are still million dollars homes and way above that in the Detroit area...try Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills and the Grosse Points.

That is the Detroit metro area. Saying Detroit area implies that there are million dollar homes in Detroit.

There is a huge difference between the Detroit area and the Detroit metro area. Bloomfield Hills, Farmington Hills, Rochester Hills, Auburn Hills, Lake Orion, Oxford, Clarkston, Birmingham, Waterford, Royal Oak... these are actually nice areas. Detroit, Pontiac, and Flint are the opposite.

If those people put as much effort into finding and keeping a job as they did in to fighting their way into line for a free handout THEY WOULDN'T BE THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I left Detroit when I was 18 and have never looked back.

I'm from Detroit. This is a little insane even for Detroit. I do think this will happen elsewhere in the country in the near future.

Wow, looking at those pictures you can see that the will to survive is strong among humans. Its ashamed they won't use that same energy to change the circumstances of their fellow man such as voting for competent officials, cleaning their neighborhoods, starting their own businesses in the community, etc.

Originally posted by jaamaan


This story looks very grim.
When i was looking at the pictures it made me think of some third world country or russia 20 years ago.

The economic near future of the US does not look good so i do not think this is going to be a one time event.

Very sad i have to say.

Have a look at the pictures from this source and see what i mean.

www.freep.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

The situation, although not ideal, was not as bad as it has been made out to be. The people in charge poorly organized the "event" then on top of that, a rumor was started that people would be receiving $5000.00 cash payments which made the situation more volatile.
A number of policemen on the scene actually said that there wasn't that much chaos.

The most important thing to remember here is that Detroit is not reflective of either Michigan's financial situation or the countries situation. Detroit has had corruption at every level of government for decades which has erroded the city into the state it is now. The freep as usual, has overblown the situation.

Originally posted by NovusOrdoMundi

Originally posted by Aquarius1
There are still million dollars homes and way above that in the Detroit area...try Birmingham, Bloomfield Hills and the Grosse Points.

That is the Detroit metro area. Saying Detroit area implies that there are million dollar homes in Detroit.

There are actually million dollar homes and condo's in Detroit. I work for a property management company that manages many of them.

Originally posted by kj6754
Wow, looking at those pictures you can see that the will to survive is strong among humans. Its ashamed they won't use that same energy to change the circumstances of their fellow man such as voting for competent officials, cleaning their neighborhoods, starting their own businesses in the community, etc.

This is almost exactly what I thought. Imagine how different for the better our country would be if people put this amount of effort into freeing themselves from dependency upon the government instead of getting something from it.

Originally posted by Sibilance

Originally posted by kj6754
Wow, looking at those pictures you can see that the will to survive is strong among humans. Its ashamed they won't use that same energy to change the circumstances of their fellow man such as voting for competent officials, cleaning their neighborhoods, starting their own businesses in the community, etc.

This is almost exactly what I thought. Imagine how different for the better our country would be if people put this amount of effort into freeing themselves from dependency upon the government instead of getting something from it.

I also agree. Many of these people think they're entitled to this money for no apparent reason.