Confessions of a Racist

reply to post by tothetenthpower

I agree entirely my friend. It seems as thought you may have already solved your problem, since you stop yourself from thinking that way.

I think that, my friend, is what I really perceive as the problem. I have to STOP myself from thinking that way. Do you think that there is never any more of a fix than a reactive process to STOP a thought? Do others that don't experience this ever NOT HAVE the thought to start with? Is there any way to get to THAT point? The point where I just don't HAVE the thought?

I appreciate your sharing ^10.

Originally posted by KSPigpen

Please, RR, if you insist on this line of discussion, quote my Op where I claim to feel 'guilt.' If you can't, move along. Near as I can tell, the word 'guilt' was first used by you.

Your thread is titled "Confessions of a Racist"

IF there is no guilt, then why the confession?

Definition of confession...................

Confession: A written or oral statement acknowledging guilt.

reply to post by liquidsmoke206


You're a riot, Liquid. I wouldn't even know where to START. I appreciate your perspective, I really do. It sucks getting old. :p Don't do it if you can help it.

You are absolutely right though, about the value of this medium and the diversity of opinions. I was really rather counting on it.

To think about classism puts it in a whole different perspective, one that I'm sure I will need to address as well. Thanks for that. (jerk) Just kidding, you're alright for whippersnapper.

i think your trying to attain enlightenment by wanting to not be able to ever judge someone and always have love towards everyone

Originally posted by Corporate Providence
i think your trying to attain enlightenment by wanting to not be able to ever judge someone and always have love towards everyone

That doesn't sound too bad, does it? I'm not sure I disagree with you. Would you perceive an error in that goal? Would you have any suggestions as to how one might obtain that goal? (thanks for stopping by.)

All I can say is WOW. One idea, maybe you thought of it already or you just didn't want to put it in your post, is that a lot of racism stems from facts based on a certain segment of the population that is then generalized to the whole population. I'll the the very first to admit that I'm racist, so go ahead and stick me with your labels and internet insults. I don't care. Down here where I'm from there's been a lot of hoo-ha with the NBPP coming up and causing a lot of trouble. I've gone to school with people of color. I've been friends with people of different color. I've gotten in trouble with people of different color. And it never fails, that no matter what it is, whether in an arguement, or a fight, or getting in trouble, my friends of "color" always turned everything into a race issue. During the '08 election I about got into fist fights with some of my black friends because no matter how many FACTS that I showed, I didn't like obama cause he was black. Plain and simple. Maybe it was just those that I've grown up with, but when the NBPP came to town causing trouble, all we've heard from them is "it's because we're black". There is nothing that pisses me off more than using your race as an excuse for anything. And I'm not the kind of guy that goes out of my way to hurt someone's feelings, but if something needs to be said or done, I don't care who it is or what they are, I'll do what needs to be done. And speaking of the KKK, what about the NBPP? They are the same racist group just a different color. If you don't believe me, look at their website, watch some of their videos of their now-dead leader talking about the extermination of the white race.
My personal beliefs on why the "minorities" or "people of color" are so looked down upon, and are so tread on (sarcasm) is the "HELP" that all the pansies "Don't call me racist or I'll cry" democrats gave them all through affirmative action, welfare, etc... The government did nothing for these people, except make it to where they would have to depend on them to live. That or find a way out, and a lot have done that, but another whole lot of them haven't. And those are the ones the facts are derived from that are being generalized across the population. The ones that can't, won't, don't care to, or aren't smart enough to get out, that is.

On another note, I'd like to touch on culture. How could anyone take grown men with gold teeth, dreadlocks, and chains jumping around like a moron chanting/talking/rhyming about hos/gangs/guns seriously? And you expect me to not think that's ridiculous? I could go on, and I'm pretty sure I'll get flamed for this. But you better watch what you say, you might have me saying, "You're flaming me cause I'm white." And that would make you.....A RACIST!

reply to post by KSPigpen

You're a riot, Liquid.

No doubt.

It sucks getting old. :p Don't do it if you can help it.

trying my best to avoid it.

You are absolutely right though, about the value of this medium and the diversity of opinions. I was really rather counting on it.

plus when you do disagree with someone's retarded opinion it's totally fun to just trash everything they say....this internet thing was a great idea.

To think about classism puts it in a whole different perspective, one that I'm sure I will need to address as well. Thanks for that.

what do you think about a black man being more worried about classism than racism? What components of racism itself ARE classism?

you're alright for whippersnapper.

I'm over 2000 years old.

Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by KSPigpen

Please, RR, if you insist on this line of discussion, quote my Op where I claim to feel 'guilt.' If you can't, move along. Near as I can tell, the word 'guilt' was first used by you.

Your thread is titled "Confessions of a Racist"

IF there is no guilt, then why the confession?

Definition of confession...................

Confession: A written or oral statement acknowledging guilt.

confession

Definition: a public declaration of your faith

I think I might prefer THIS one.

or this one:

confession 8

Definition: an admission of misdeeds or faults

Nice try though. Thanks for stopping by, RR.

reply to post by KSPigpen


You know . . . the people who get offended are the racist ones.

I have friends of many different races. We can throw slurs and jokes at each other all day long. Sometimes the families got in on it as well.

People just need to quit wearing their hearts on their sleeves.

reply to post by KSPigpen


I had to include the definition of "confession" because some, including yourself, were questioning where I came up with the "guilt" angle.

It did not come from out of the blue.

I don't mind being called a racist for disagreeing with Mr. Obama, in fact I've come to expect it.

A star for you.

When I sent my father a photo of my late wife who was a Afro-Euroasian his response was that I married a GD N-----!!! I hung up on him and we did not talk for seven years.

To his credit when we finally started talking again; he apologized but he always remained a racist to the day he died...of course he denied it but the language he used gave lie to his claims.

I learned a lot about the nature of prejudice and how it effects people living with my late wife and her children...and I also learned that it is something ingrained in us...it is almost primal...the fear of the other...of the different or odd.

And I learned that if you aspire to be free of prejudice it is not just a matter deciding not to be; it is a matter of constant vigilance and practice...for it will rear its ugly head when you least expect it...and pollute your thoughts.

But the struggle is worth it.

reply to post by RRconservative


Based on many things that I have read you have posted you are indeed RR.

reply to post by KSPigpen


Excellent thread, and thanks for sharing.

IMO and as has been mentioned, you are as cured as you will ever be in as much as you know your thoughts are misguided and you are not alone in jumping the gun or fighting with preconceptions, the important thing is that you are willing to acknowledge this and are doing so in a manner which will hopefully help others to address similar issues.

Lets face it, just on this thread alone I can already see at least one person with greater issues than yourself, lets hope one day they have the guts to address them.

This thread gets a well earned flag..

Edit: Not wanting to post further on this thread and having viewed posts following this one, I would just like to make a correction to the above statement and change the statement "at least one person" to "people".

[edit on 5-10-2009 by Koka]

Originally posted by Ansiroth
reply to post by David9176

 

We must stop labeling those who call for peace, love, and security "hippies", it undermines the most important ideal in the universe.

Don't worry about labeling hippies. We wear that definition with pride as long ago we saw the folly in racism, sexism and most other "ism's"

But for the record we are all prejudiced to one extent or another. It comes from Pre Judge. A completely rational defense mechanism unless carried to extremes like racism.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh


And why would anyone want to call someone that?

Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
reply to post by KSPigpen

 

You know . . . the people who get offended are the racist ones.

I have friends of many different races. We can throw slurs and jokes at each other all day long. Sometimes the families got in on it as well.

People just need to quit wearing their hearts on their sleeves.

I agree. Racism is used to control us, just like all other differences. Its divide and rule, we cant rise up if they keep us divided. Our differences should be embraced, not feared. Notice how the media want us to be fearful of everything? Political correctness and the left wing right wing paradigm is used to divide us up even more. Notice how its the government that decides what words are and arent offensive? and that the government deems a new word to be offensive every five minutes?

[edit on 5-10-2009 by SpaceMonkeys]

reply to post by grover


Those are words. You must decide whether you want those words to hurt you or not.


I see that even ATS wears a heart on the sleeve. Way to prove my point, mods.


Fail

[edit on 10/5/2009 by Lemon.Fresh]

I was raised in a left winged family.

But because i am in a city where 50% is none-European i became a racialist and a racist, i saw the destruction of my city with my own eyes because of the racial handicapt people the elite let into my land.

reply to post by Lemon.Fresh

You are wrong...those words hurt others. It is not up to you to decide if they hurt someone else or not.

Besides that yours is a sloppy self serving argument.