Time Now To Resist By Disorganized Means; It Cannot Be Stopped.

Hi ATS,

I found a really good essay outlining how, and why disorganized resistance will work, and keep on truckin' on. Organized resistance has never worked very well due to the fact of that it does the critical thinking, it says what to be enraged about, it tells You when to stand up, it tells You when to strike out, and it tells You when to sit down, or stop. Instead of teaching You to use critical thinking skills, the organization gives You parameters, and tell You what to fight for, and what to believe... In essence what organized resistance has ever not been usurped? Answer, they all have been.

I can ramble on, but Denis Jones, and his essay,"The Virtues of a Disorganized Resistance" has already outlined the beauty of the ideology, and the very real movement spreading out like a virus.

Below are some quotes from his work; also in order for this to work it is important to realize resistance is www.abovetopsecret.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink" rel="nofollow">as easy as saying no!!!!

If each party is basically the same, with respect to ideology, why do they not merge into one party? The answer to this question is best found in viewing each political party according to its true nature. American political parties are, for all intents and purposes, organized crime units. American political parties have more in common with the Mafia than they have with their counterparts in more democratic societies. Like Mafia, each political party competes for control of territory in order to maximize the benefit to their business constituency. Like Mafia, the political parties attempt to mold the system to maintain their positions and access to resources. Like Mafia, the political parties force the average citizen to pay "protection" under the threat of violence (taxes). Like Mafia each political party uses the "protection" money collected for its own advantage.

By defining our political system in terms of the "majority" and the "opposition," our Constitution enshrines this two mafia system into law. Each Mafia passes laws to exclude new comers from the game while focusing the rest of its energy in destroying the other Mafia.

Thus, any resistance movement that chooses to become an organization is in competition with these Mafiosi. The deck is stacked and the power of the state, wielded by these organized crime units known as the Democratic and Republican parties, will waste the time and resources of any newcomer. A newcomer can only succeed by rejecting the political system, draining its resources, and undermining the rule of the state.

In other words, quit thinking inside the damn box. The left/right paradigm is there only as an illusion of choice. The political parties are only different management teams for Slavery, Inc. Take notice that the Corporation of Slavery has already hired the management teams they want. You, and I mean nothing to them other than as slaves, and for nothing else, but to be boot licking cotton pickers.

Bureaucracy cannot comprehend disorganization. Disorganization is invisible. The asymmetry of the relationship between organization and disorganization favors disorganization. Organization depends upon planning. Planning requires predictability. Disorganization cannot be predicted. This leaves organization at a disadvantage.

Organization requires a supply chain. Supply chains can be disrupted. Disorganization depends only upon the resources of its members. Supply chains that do not exist cannot be eliminated.

The Elite use a form of disorganization to control us. It is the simple concept of "Order Out Of Chaos". Note: The reason more People are waking up is because the Elite are becoming more sure they've won daily. Even the MSM mock us with "waking up", and the like.

We need to construct a disorganized movement. You need not apply to join. In fact, it might be better if you did not contact me, or anyone except those with whom you wish to form a unit. Your ideas, strategies, tactics, and lessons learned should be spread anonymously or by word of mouth. When you act, should you decide to act in resistance, attribute your actions to "the Resistance." The growing din of disorganized disruption will be felt as an earthquake. There will be trembles. There will be pre-shocks. The tension will mount and, in time, there will be an earthquake. When that earthquake strikes, the organized edifice of the oppressor will fall like a house of cards.

We can all do this. Be a part of "the resistance". Whether it is just You, or it is a few Friends, and You, attribute any actions simply to "the resistance". It is an abstract concept, and nothing tangible that can be infiltrated, and perverted. It is Liberty at work.


Lyndon LaRouche. I am not a particular fan, but in this film he lays out what is coming quite nicely. Should You have come this far then watch it. Again, not promoting Laroach, but something I learned long ago. All sources of information can be good, and it is up to You what is worthy to remember, or not.

the resistance,

Sancho

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Arg, I am extremely grateful for the two flags. However, I am going to need to change my threads into small ones, short ones. The PTB have successfully conditioned concentration out of the People.

No time to read, no time to think, no time to react, no time to resist, and no F&&&&ng time for Rights.

Yeah, okay, I have "the time" to bump this.............

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What should be said sanchoearlyjones? How do you resist LRADs, Tazers, UAVs, Satellite tracking, and the like?

Mind you I am not saying do nothing.... and you are right about dis-organized resistance. Any anarchist knows the virtue of this.

Personally I used to insert DVDs into newspapers at new paper stands in the dead of morning right after the new deliveries....

These days I do not do as I used too....

Their is also the whole thing about the ATS rules which maybe why you have not got any replies yet... I think your thread is skating the line of the Terms and conditions..

Mind you again, I support the Idea.

Also my answers to my first question would be...

TV Satellite dish to re direct the sound waves., A conductive metal to short it out like an undermesh of tin or something, A long range rifle or perhaps Remote planes of your own. , and anything else that needs to be done..... It can be done..


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Yep, I think it's all fine. I am sighting the mans article, or essay. He is not organizing anyone at all. He isn't even telling others to organize. The man did encourage using the term, "the resistance".

I don't have a problem with it as it is not a title, or such, but to me is a simple ideology.

Beyond that the man gave no ideas, and I do not have any readily available.

www.freeinfosociety.com...

The lnk above is to a free download pdf book. It is called the The Global Sovereigns Handbook.

I would bet money just by changing Your life to live as a sovereign would shake the foundation of the NWO pyramid

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hi sancho.

this just isn't feasible, it's an ideology, as you said.
this ideology's main fault is simply that it would buckle under the force of the organized.

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Hi Heyo, Long time no read

Here is food for thought. The organized is never successful because it cannot fully silence the voice of the disorganized internally. The way the organized system of totalitarianism, and oppression has worked up until now, is through massive amounts of subliminal programming, and straight up NLP mind control through all the major outlets affecting us on a daily basis.

Now, People are beginning to tune out to not only the failing MSM, but aren't listening as much to "popular cultural views". The blogosphere is rocketing up in readership, and more People are tuning in to alternative sources not only for news, but even entertainment.

The French Resistance wasn't organized as such, but it helped tremendously with the Nazi's..........that's just one example.

It's a matter of People taking an interest in general.

*************It was good seeing You again

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awww you remembered. say hi to sundancer when ya check in.


well i dunno it's almost like you're narrowing your search to a time that only you've witnessed.
NOW, those things are true, however, organization was a snowball, and currently has turned into an avalanche.

I think such things are found deep within human nature. It is fear that causes us to organize, since we are able to, and if we don't, we think someone else will.

I'm reminded of that movie, one of the new batmans, where the two ships have the detonation devices to the other ships. They don't blow each other up. The deadline hits, and all live.
...The assumption of organization fails.

I just don't think it would happen, especially on a smaller scale. If shtf, sorry to admit, i will kill for food to feed my family, so why wouldn't i organize, which is a more stable moral position?

S & F and a bump Sancho.

I think you are right on. I think we are all almost there.
I feel that we have all that we need, all the technology and knowledge is out there available and waiting for us to use it. We just need to pay attention to it.

Thats the trick. The people have to gain conscience about what is wrong and what they could do to make everything more enjoyable.

We've been in the era of information for a couple of years now. I think we are getting some serious speed going on now concerning the world wide communication system that we call internet . I believe that sooner then later the right idea will get to the right people.

We just have to keep talking about it, spreading the awareness, the message.
If we maintain our attention healthy our intent will be unimaginably strong.

I feel it happening and getting stronger everyday.
I know you feel it too, thats why I have faith.

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Thats the trick. The people have to gain conscience about what is wrong and what they could do to make everything more enjoyable.

I think People are gaining consciousness. I am continually surprised to see the amount of People agreeing, and *****addiing******* to the ideology of Liberty, and Freedom.

We just have to keep talking about it, spreading the awareness, the message.
If we maintain our attention healthy our intent will be unimaginably strong.

Hey, as someone who just said they put me on ignore, I am doing 20 posts a day..........not that many, that would be warrenb, but I am flattered by the ignore-e

The second part about maintaining a "healthy intent", or "message"....... Yes, I do struggle with that when faced with People who have no real idea, but still will argue. I am trying, and that's all I can do. I know You are doing a lot as well

I feel it happening and getting stronger everyday. I know you feel it too, thats why I have faith.

Well, yeah!!!! I am, can I describe it?? Not really, but I know I can watch the Mainstream Media, and the whole while ***seeing*** through their lies.


Aside from Your post G, it is good hearing from You




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Disorganised ,asynchronous methods were successful for the forward Russian troops against the Georgians ahead of their main regiments in the Aug 08 conflict . Same with the Hezbollah against the Israeli's. Seems to have something going for it.

As a Military Mind, a combat Sqaudlkeader in the Marines.

ANY RESISTANCE CAN DEFEAT ATTACKERS(want stats and facts ask)

This is the thing, how many people read this, and how many are touched by it.. Lets play BS

Say 300,000 read it and told 3 friends... 900,000 have this knowledge....

Well with 300,000,000 people in US alone the percent of people affected is less than 1/3 of one percent? Correct me if im wrong

Say now that million trains till the day the merde hit de ventelituer
They will be taken out. It's not about Casualties for the agressor, there bloodline doesnt fight. Ours does, against each other.

I learned standing on a corner in Manhattan giving away Alex Jones CD's is like asking for c-noptes

Thats why we still can even talk about this stuff, its near zero impact, and the programing is so thick the 600,000 went back to Dancing with the stars.

Its too hard for sheepish trained civilans to stand up, rather I'm a USMC leather neck and for me to stand up it takes everything. They know, perhaps they root for us. The system is so good, with the chemical and visual mindcontrol I'm scared. Yea go ahead and laugh ELINT Poges reading this. Your family means nothing to them

The only way to beat them is to sit it out like ghandi. I'm a Marine, a killer. One mind any weapon, tested in life and dreams. I may be just an animal, but I now choose no gun, no fist, no improvised knife. I will sit in with anyone who will. Empty the streets, I know its impossible.. If some people dont go to work some people die. Anf they win. Starvation the win, war they win, capitalism they win.

Just because I'm losing Doesn't mean I've lost
Just because I'm losing doesnt mean ill stop (Ka$hual Lyrics IM me for mp3)

Keep thinking, rool up the flank.. but without the masses we get starved trampled and jailed, forgotten, what else?

JB

I think one thing people continually fail to remember is that without the people, they cannot enslave the people.

How do you enact marshal law, if you have no soliders? How do you invade a country if you have no army? How do you force vaccinations onto a population without people holding the needles?

Every single plan that they wish to use against us, requires OUR complicity. That's why any resistance, whether organized or disorganized is needed. Because for every clog we remove from the machine, the less powerful it becomes.

If we all stand still and silent, then we are a part of the machine. Remove yourself from the machine, and turn your efforts to it's dismantling.

Disorganized resistance... isn't that what's happening already. It all seems incredibly incoherent and disorganized already.. we're against socialism... no we're against a public option in health care... no we're against messing with medicare... no we're for Glenn Beck, no we're for the constitution, no we're for overturning the elections... Hey if it's disorganized resistance you want you're already winners.

disorganized disruption is what i do best. sure i can organize a group and come up with a plan, but as a single unit, i work best in the shadows and lets face it; they are playing from the shadows so i say we do it as well

People keep asking how do you fight a government that has the arsenal and technology that America does.

Simply by doing as the OP has suggested. Get off the grid. Read as many survival books as you can. Leave your homes for forests (this is, of course, a last resort) where food is abundant because when worse comes to worse and they have no other means to sway your determination, they WILL use food as a weapon to control you.

The best weapon you have as an individual is to remain self-sufficient.

Learn to cultivate. Keep a shotgun to hunt. Learn to purify water. Learn to navigate without the use of maps. Learn to build shelters. Learn to cross rivers without a bridge.

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Exactly one man or a few men can't fight against those weapons.. it's not like the old day where you sat in bushes waiting for a military convoy to come past and then launch arrows and use log traps to wipe them out...

the most any can do is spread the message discreetly with street DvD's, graffiti pointing to websites or flyers with none of your DNA on.

Time's have changed it could easily be done if we had a number of high profile people on our side to protect us should it get violent.

at least the US has weapons us in the UK don't

but if we get on the MSM as "Unknown rebels destroy news agency warehouses" or "DVD's left region wide in tirade against the government"

we know we would be doing something right, i have the gear.. various types of camo and black clothing,boots,balaclavas,gloves etc but i can't take on an entire government alone

EDIT: also good pointto you.. redirect signals, use any type of rifle to knock them off, planes of our own... good ideas actually could work, students can use £1000 and get HD pics of space bet they can do the same for other stuff...hmmmm got a good line of thinking there

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reply to post by sanchoearlyjones


Great post sancho





We must speak out!
We must resist tyranny!


s/f

What exactly is it that is being resisted? And how does anyone think that voicing an angry opinion on a forum is going to go anywhere?

Nobody resisted the Bush government. And that regime was pretty much the pinnacle of greed, negligence and half witted political and military decisions.

Obama was in office for a day and people were creating narratives and making up loads of lies.

The American mind seems to be deteriorating.

People in Britain should be resisting even more, they are totally under the thumb of their government in almost every aspect of their lives. 100x as bad a it is in the USA as far as surveillance and laws against people doing pretty banal things. They can arrest you in the UK for being "anti-social" lol.

Can you imagine having "anti-social" laws implemented in America?

Republicans and Democrats alike would suffer from their collective heads popping open in utter disbelief.

so, what is it you intend to resist?

Hey just look at the supposed great enemy (Taliban etc.) in Afghanistan or Iraq - they are hardly 'organised' (compared to 'us'), and yet are a real problem to the might of the well-organized military machine of the USA and other nations.....