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Freemasons = Cult of Love

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posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 03:17 PM
I've stepped back from researching for a moment as the information does tend to get a bit redundant, and oddly enough, I came to the conclusion that the biggest aspect of freemasonry is *drumroll*


The worship of love. Now, there are many different aspects to why this is, and the undelying reasoning for this is not exactly innocent (in fact it's not innocent at all) but this is what I've concluded.

Now anybody who's done research on the Secret Societies know that they use a fair amount of symbolism. These are some of the more commonly used symbolisms:

The 2 Pillars = right and left leg
The Veil = covered and "pure" genatalia
Unveiled = Sexually Active or "Known" Persons
obelisks, pyramids, The Compass: The Male Genetalia
Chalices, the Square, etc Flowers = The female Genetalia
Forbidden Fruit = Apple = Sex

Now what exacty is the big deal with sex and love and what does it have to do with their god, Lucifer? Well, it seems as if the devil has infiltrated our DNA. To masons, it is our God-forsaken right to be "loved" aka "sexually active". In the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve did not "know" each other until Eve was beguiled by Satan and partook of the eating of the "forbidden fruit" which is sex.

After this happened, there was an abundance of knowledge given to Adam and Eve. However, nowhere does it say that God ever wanted Adam and Eve to be knowledgeable about things such as sex. This was a grave sin, and so Adam and Eve became knowledgable, but their innocence was taken away. They no longer served the purpose they were meant to serve.

Now, take also into account that the word "beguiled" means "to charm" or to "pass time". I ask you: Isn't sex a charming way to pass time?" Is it possible that the serpent in the garden was the original deflowerer of Eve? Could it be possible that Eve's first born son, Cain, was not Adam's child, but the serpent's child? Why would God put emnity between Eve's seed and the serpent's seed if procreation wasn't at least possible to begin with?

This has happened throughout the ages. In the Book of Enoch, it speaks of fallen angels procreating with women and creating a race of blood-thirsty giants called the Nephilim. This is the reason for the great flood. Obviously it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that sex among higher order beings and humans is frowned upon by God.

That's what all the fuss is about. Our God-forsaken right to have sex with one another and the fact that the human gene pool was manipulated a LONG time ago and continues to be to this very day.

posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 03:33 PM
There are several flaws in this theory, the biggest being:

Forbidden Fruit = Apple = Sex

If god had created them of a different sex what was his purpose? Procreation being the foremost obviously.

Secondly, Jesus loved John. Does that mean they were homosexuals?

What was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Bad?

According to the Jewish tradition God commanded Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree that was to give free choice and allow them to earn, as opposed to receive, absolute perfection and intimate communion with God at a higher level than the one on which they were created. According to this tradition, Adam and Eve would have attained absolute perfection and retained immortality had they succeeded in withstanding the temptation to eat from the Tree. After failing at this task, they were condemned to a period of toil to rectify the fallen universe. Jewish tradition views the serpent, and sometimes the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil itself, as representatives of evil and man's evil inclination.

In Christian theology, the Tree of Knowledge is connected to the doctrine of original sin. Augustine of Hippo believed that humanity inherited sin itself and the guilt for Adam and Eve's sin.[2] This doctrine of inherited guilt is not accepted by the Eastern Orthodox Church. By eating of the fruit of the Tree, Adam and Eve sought to be like God. (For a debate about the Western doctrine of original sin and the Eastern doctrine of ancestral sin see Ancestral Versus Original Sin [3]). There is a minority of Christians that affirm the doctrine of Pelagianism, which believes every individual faces the same choice between sin and salvation that Adam and Eve faced and that ultimately each person can by themselves and without God's assistance (grace) overcome sin or temptation. However, non-denominational Christians generally do not accept the idea of original sin, because they believe that we are not born into sin, we are born into a sinful world. Therefore children are innocent until an age of accountability and the decision to accept Jesus Christ is possible with full understanding. Illuminism as per gnostic mysticism has been associated with the tree of knowledge of good and evil. To the Christian, the tree of life is Jesus Christ, and not by higher knowledge, but only by faith in the atonement brought by His blood, true life in Him can be found and restored.

The Muslim version states it best:

Muslims believe that when God created Adam and Eve, he told them that they could enjoy everything in heaven but this tree, and so, Satan appeared to them and told them that the only reason God wouldn't want them to eat from that tree is that they will become Angels or to be of the immortals.

When they ate from this tree they became aware of their nakedness and realized the size of the mistake they had made: committing the first sin in all of human kind. Consequently, they repented to God and asked for his forgiveness. As a result for their sin, they were removed from heaven and placed on Earth to live and die. It was then decided that those who obey God and follow his path shall be rewarded with everlasting life in Heaven, and those who disobey God and stray away from his path shall be punished with everlasting life in Hell.

The "original sin" was disobedience to god's one restriction. It wasn't sex.

posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:47 PM
reply to post by intrepid
Would you 'Adam and Eve it' between the first two posts I have to take it that Adam and Eve were not the first humans! So, if not they just went through a test like everybody else. On the other hand, if they were the first humans in creation, we still have a big problem...where did the rest of humanity come from? Okay so Adam and Eve had children, what about the childrens children? from what union were they created? was old Serpy still hanging around for them, the girls, the unnamed ones. Other than that, there had to be an incestuous relationship, there is no getting round it..unless there were other humans created of course, but then there has to be a first doesn't there....

posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:49 PM
Lucifer is not our god. Where did you get that idea from? Pike? I think its funny how people take pike as if hes the highest authority on masonry. Most masons have no idea who pike even is. people take his quotes way way way outta context. Also pike wasnt even talking about worshiping lucifer in those couple of lines where he mentions lucifer in morals and dogma. He wasnt even talking about the lucifer that people think of when they hear that word. And intrepid did a good job with everything else.

Also mods, wouldnt this fit better in the secret society forum? It would probably get much more responses, and from people who actually know about freemasonry... masons. Most masons on this site don't read any other forums except the secret society forum.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 04:51 PM
reply to post by smurfy

From my theological days, if I remember correctly, incest was exactly what happened(they had other sons and daughters) and they were able to procreate due to the fact that they were close to perfection. That's why they lived into their 900's.

posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 05:49 PM
reply to post by intrepid
So where do you go with that theology, has mankind became more degenerate in the passing of time from the early procreations. Incest today is frowned upon, in both socio and medical terms for good reason.

What does this passage mean in the Muslim interpretation?
"As a result for their sin, they were removed from heaven and placed on Earth to live and die. It was then decided that those who obey God and follow his path shall be rewarded with everlasting life in Heaven, and those who disobey God and stray away from his path shall be punished with everlasting life in Hell." In that scenario, Adam and poor old Eve,(who between them actually produced the rest of the human race) eventually went to Hell, as if being banished to Earth wasn't bad enough! What a load of rubbish! Look around you, Earth and the rest of the Universe is a beautiful place..not perfect, but still beautiful. Can you not see the contradictions in the Adam and Eve story, ever curious Mankind, the first thing they were gonna do is have a "bite at the apple" they didn't need old Serpy to do that!

posted on Dec, 13 2009 @ 12:15 AM
Genesis 1:27-28
27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

We can see sex between Adam and Eve wasn't a sin. Eve is referred to in the Qur'an as Adam's spouse. And this gives Adam sexual rights of tillage unto her. So in both the Bible & Qur'an we see that sex between what God brought together in holy union is not a forbidden sexual act.

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