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A year after financial crisis, a new world order emerges

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posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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A year after financial crisis, a new world order emerges


news.yahoo.com

One year after the near collapse of the global financial system, this much is clear: The financial world as we knew it is over, and something new is rising from its ashes.

Historians will look to September 2008 as a watershed for the U.S. economy.
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posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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First of just looking at the title of this news story, I believed it should make its rounds here. This story touches up on the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac seizures and the bankruptcy of the Lehman Brothers that sent shock waves through the financial world.

Then it goes on to tell what the global markets are doing and how they are basically converging into one big tightly knit market. What scares me about this article is this quote

"Today, there's little private-sector demand for new loan-based securities; government is virtually the only game in town."

Taken directly from the last paragraph in the article it basically sums up the upcoming era we are entering. . . with the government virtually being the only game in town.

news.yahoo.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Well is this a new WORLD order or a new US order? Sounds to me like it reads more about the US.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 08:36 PM
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I think that it's essentially an article proclaiming socialism to be victorious over capitalism when in fact we've never had a fully free market system. That's how I see it anyhow. I hate reading these sensationalist kinds of articles personally.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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Congress and the Obama administration have lost faith in self-regulated markets. Together, they're writing the most sweeping new regulations over finance since the Great Depression. And in this ever-more-connected global economy, Washington is working with its partners through the G-20 group of nations to develop worldwide rules to govern finance.


Says everything. Regulations out to wazzu and the G-20, not the Department of the Tresury in charge of our finacial policy.

This started under Bush and has continued under Obama. We are moving towards a one world government at hyperspeed now.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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And if there truly is a grand conspiracy at play here to implement this sort of government, I suspect it is about to happen at an alarming rate. It's interesting to see people waking up more and more to what's actually happening and are able to see the special interests behind certain agendas that are being pushed.



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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Uh, this regulation hasn't just started under Bush. It's actually been going on like forever ever since the fed was created. The reason you haven't heard about it is because our government would have you believe that we're a true free market nation and doesn't want facts to get in the way of their propaganda.


[edit on 8-9-2009 by Frankidealist35]



posted on Sep, 8 2009 @ 10:57 PM
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Its just hard to pull away all the disinformation from the truth, yet when you start to put pieces together with factual documentation and credible testimony it all starts to fit nicely into their theoretical 'new world order' puzzle.

[edit on 8-9-2009 by born2BWild]



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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Its just hard to pull away all the disinformation from the truth, yet when you start to put pieces together with factual documentation and credible testimony it all starts to fit nicely into their theoretical 'new world order' puzzle.

Here is an outline of what was done.


History of the problem ATS

History of the problem ATS

I think the USA and Europe has built up too big a middle class and TPTB are now more interested in scalping China and India. Maurice Strong even said that China will be the next world power as well as attacking the "affluent middle class" To implement this transfer of power from the USA and EU to China, a plan was put in place.. the last piece, the confiscation of our farmland is yet to be played.

First Banking Laws changes in the eighties allowed leveraged buyouts of rich no debt corporations such as Gillette. I had a friend who literally packed up US factories and shipped them over seas during that time period. To provide customers The World Trade Organization opened borders and got rid of tariffs (free trade) This insured the complete transfer of industry from the USA and EU to China and India by insuring cheap imports competing against what was left of the USA and EU industrial base. Meanwhile Maurice Strong, Father of environmentalism, made sure it was very expensive for US and EU factories to compete and that those factories would be viewed as "evil" thanks to the "'Innocents' Clubs'

The elite foreign investors have bought up much of the USA:
The Department of Homeland Security says 80% of our ports are operated by Foreigners and they are buying and running US bridges, toll roads and water authorities www.alabamaeagle.org...

Statistics showed in 1990,before WTO was ratified, Foreign ownership of U.S. assets amounted to 33% of U.S. GDP. By 2002 this had increased to over 70% of U.S. GDP. www.fame.org...

An analysis of the 2007 financial markets of 48 countries shows the world's finances are in the hands of a few mutual funds, banks, and corporations. This is the first report of global concentration of financial power ..www.insidescience.org...


The Last of the Plan - Taking Over US Food Production

“Bill Clinton Admits Global Free Trade Policy [WTO] has Forced Millions Of People into Poverty.” [and put billions into the pockets of Transnationals] www.agmates.com...

The CEO of Monsanto was Clinton's Chief Foreign Trade Advisor, His Sec of Ag and FDA also had Monsanto connections and his rep to the talks culminating in the World Trade Organization was another Monsanto employee. Amstutz, VP of Cargill and later of Goldman Sachs wrote the WTO Agreement on Ag.

Setting The Stage
The (WTO) Agreement on Ag (AoA) changed how disease and food safety is handled around the world. The USDA/FDA decided to change focus from disease eradication to "disease prevention” by changing from a zero tolerance import policy to a “scientifically-based and transparent risk assessment,” and opening US borders to trade in “low risk commodities”. This is why the USA has suddenly been flooded by tainted imports. They are obviously considered “low risk” www.animalagriculture.org...

The year after the WTO was ratified the USDA and FDA scrapped the US food safety regs and implemented the international HACCP regs. This transfered control of food safety testing to the corporations and instituted massive paperwork designed to bankrupt small competitors and waste the time of federal inspectors. Food safety problems increased and made front page news while the culprits were protected.




Since corporations are now the inspectors, is it any wonder that in July 2003, after the Con-agri E. coli recall, GAP released a major report titled "Shielding the Giant: USDA's 'Don't Look, Don't Know' Policy for Beef Inspection"? Or that Mr. Stan Painter, Chairman, National Joint Council of Food Inspection Locals testified during the Congressional investigation into the Hallmark/Westland downer cow scandal:


It (the recall of Hallmark/Westland Meat) highlights one of the problems that we have attempted to raise with the agency ever since 1996 when the Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP) inspection system was put in place. There seems to be too much reliance on an honor system for the industry to police itself. While the USDA investigation is still on going at Hallmark/Westland, a couple of facts have emerged that point to a system that can be gamed by those who want to break the law. It (HACCP) shifted the responsibility for food safety over to the companies . domesticpolicy.oversight.house.gov...
Yet despite government investigations, and "over 1000 non-compliance reports – weighing some 16 pounds" no one—least of all Sec of Ag Ed Schafer—is sitting in jail. Instead, we are getting "new food safety laws" that, once again, conform with the World Trade Organization wishes. yupfarming.blogspot.com...


The USDA and the FDA are trying to sell the WTO/ISO “Guide to Good Farming Practices” to consumers as necessary “Food Safety” regs. But even American Quality Professionals will not defend ISO. An Article "Eliminate ISO 9000?," in Quality Magazine received the heaviest reader response in some time but contained no ardent rebuttals in defense of ISO 9000! Dalgleish, editor of ASQ magazine, contended that ISO 9000 “misdirects resources to paperwork that does almost nothing.” The first bill in 2005 flopped but one of the new bills just passed the House. These bills replace USDA/FDA food testing with reams of ISO type paperwork. Inspectors then inspect the paperwork and NOT the food. That is WHY the peanut factory who had just passed an inspection could ship tainted food.


Bush signed an agreement to "harmonize" our laws with the EU and the FDA also speaks of "harmonizing" laws and complying with WTO. The laws in the EU show how well the transfer of farmland to corporation works.

During discussion of the agricultural conditions for entry by Poland into the EU. The EU chair lady bluntly stated the EU plans to oust a million Polish farmers from their land. Another EU member proudly announced Portugal had already removed 60% of their farmers. After traditional farmers are regulated out of business, corporations move in buying land cheaply and instituting environmentally devastating monoculture farming. The EU has doubled the intake of herbicides, multiplied the use of fungicides by six times and increased the area sprayed with pesticides by almost a hundred per cent in the past two decades. All very profitable for the Ag chemical giants www.i-sis.org.uk...

The final Act in the Take Over of America - the Confiscation of Our Land


With the passage of the bogus "food safety" bills here, the transnational Agri-corporations will be handed the final weapon needed to drive out independent farmers and even home gardeners. The bills allows "the Administrator" to confiscate farmland, conduct surveillance and warrant-less entry on anyone "holding food" (that's everyone) with no judicial review over even the appropriateness and validity of punishments for as yet unstated "crimes." yupfarming.blogspot.com...


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The reason TPTB want US and EU land is for the mineral resources and the food needed to fuel the industrial expansion (and central bank wealth) in China. As the Chinese grow more affluent they want a live style similar to what the USA had in the 60's and 70's and that includes meat protein.

Environmentalism and Global Warming were the dog and pony shows used to divert activists while the USA and EU were dismantled by the bankers. Maurice Strong, Chief Advisor to the World Bank and the UN is now a Chief Advisor to China yet the Political Activists seem blind to the fact he has been using them. Strong was also a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundations that supplies grants to Greenpeace, Sierra club, World Wildlife Fund, National Wildlife Federation, Environmental Advocates and even the Environmental Grantmakers Association. www.activistcash.com...

The Rockefellers even fund The Consumers Union and Organic Consumers Association which explains why they back the food safety bills despite the evidence laid out before the top management. No wonder the person in the Organic Consumers Assoc was uncomfortable and apologized!

[edit on 9-9-2009 by crimvelvet]



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 07:07 AM
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Well done crimvelvet, that’s a pretty good outline.

Obviously the end game is afoot for the globalists. The total control they seek is now within their grasp. It includes control of the food which is the ultimate control mechanism. People who’s children are going hungry will do just about anything to feed them. Then there’s the whole ‘pain compliance’ trend we’re seeing with torture and police using cattle prods on people for the slightest, and even imagined offences. Universal surveillance, the military getting involved in police actions, global government being more and more openly referred to by politicians, compulsory vaccines on the horizon with big pharma now legally protected from any damage they do, it’s all leading in an obvious direction.

And as far as the economic meltdown is concerned, I fear that we’ve only seen the beginning.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 07:45 AM
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The most obvious difference I see between today's economy and the economy of say 10 years ago is that today people care little about debt or the health of the economy and will go shopping and spend hundreds of dollars that they don't have regardless of the economic climate.

I've also noticed that the government is more interested in getting us to spend all our money on crap we don't need and people are more receptive to government requests to get us to go shopping, Just look at the Cash for Clunkers, Obama says buy a new car, people obey and then realize they can't afford a new car. Sounds like Mind Control almost lol



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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YOu may not realize this, but everything you wrote is a big con job.

Who wrote all the deregulation policies that have allowed banks and other financial institutions to get by with robbery?

Newt Gingrich and the repub congress that took over in 95.

All this has been done under the con job of the Free Market, which is right wing communism.

China is a huge environmental mess. China isn't set up to take over anything, let alone the planet. Until China gets rid of its totalitarian government, it will never become a world power.

China is completely dependent on U.S. consumers



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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We've never had a true free market. The federal reserve manipulates the money supply and causes booms and busts. It is what has gotten into this crisis. You can't say that free market caused this because we never had a free market.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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Well for one...

Americans are saving now like never before in this generations memory.

Which means that making money off of loans is going to become incredibly more difficult.

And sense that's what's driven our economy for the last half century, it begets a new American order of the economy.

So how do you prime the economy when no one but gov is taking on debt?

My guess is get more people to produce, but our school system doesn't teach that. they teach what you need to know to get a job... what they need to do is spin it in the direction that jobs are fine if you have to get one... but what you should be doing is producing something...



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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What I noticed about this article, is that it claims that a New World Order is emerging, but all it describes is how things have fallen apart. There is no information on how a new world order is emerging.

What has happened is that the IC's have literally destroyed their own markets out of greed.

A market system requires two components, Supply AND DEMAND.

When wages and jobs are trimmed too far, then DEMAND dries up, and the market system grinds to a halt.

Governments elected by the people are doing the right thing by stepping in, and writing laws to eliminate the corruption that has created this mess.

Business has to follow the law, and that includes International corporations which are the usurpers of our economic prosperity.

In Fact, our governments are not going far enough in writing laws to eliminate this corruption in corporate entities. Under GW everyone has had their hand in everyone elses pocket, and lying, cheating, and stealing become the standard in business, and business can not function long in such a condition. Essentially, it has been a repeat of the twenties.

The US needs to reinstate usury laws against excessive interest rates. Also, there should be a reduction on the charges companies are putting on the transfer of money. Insurance should not be for profit.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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That's what they said about communism.

There is no such thing as a Free Market, the very term is an oxymoron.

Competition requires an evenly enforced, fair set of rules, like are applied in professional sports.

Expecting the economy to work without the evenly enforced fair set of rules is like trying to have a professional football game without referees, it simply doesn't work.

The Free Market concept is every bit as ridiculous as Communism.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:54 AM
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You seem to think it's the free market. The federal reserve is the institution that has caused the home mortgage crisis... they allowed too much free money in the credit money. The rate of credit was really low before the economic collapse got underway. You know who sets the credit rate? The federal reserve. The federal reserve is the agency that controls how much money is in the money supply. If anything they artificially created this crisis. You think the government would enact laws fighting corruption? Don't make me laugh... the government is quite corrupt themselves what makes you think they'll do anything about fighting corruption which they are responsible for?



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:55 AM
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What you should be doing is trying to start your own business, and screw corporations.

Our school systems only goal is to create conformist who do what they are told, and are afraid to go out at night.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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The federal reserve is a privately held business.

By deregulating the banking and financial industry, Newt turned control of our economy over to the privately owned Fed Res banks, and that is how we got to where we are.



posted on Sep, 9 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Wrong. It's a public-private enterprise. To say that it's a private business is only PARTIALLY CORRECT. The government is the one that gives them the authorization to do what they do.



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