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Isaiah 32:8: But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.

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posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 08:18 PM
Substitute Generosity for the word liberal.

This is not a way of the conservative but of scriptural foretold way of right which is Liberalism.

Isaiah 32:8

Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand

Liberal by definition being Generous. How Generous might we all be? What is generous?
In some translations, it means noble, and in other it means liberal.

What is liberal? What is Generous? What is Noble?

A Generous person. A Generous Portion. Think in your mind the meaning of that Word.
Liberal, or Generous. Noble? : of an exalted moral or mental character or excellence

I for one have had it with the Conservative that thinks they are Generous. Am I? How might I do better? The conservative that thinks he is Liberal. The person who thinks they give and alleviate the suffering for the poor while their home is clad in much.

When the World itself is approaching 1 Billion People who are malnourished or starving....what man can say he has done enough? Billions in weaponry while is spent while brethren the world wide starve and are clad in filthy rags.

Don't talk to me about your religious affiliation when we have brothers clad in rags and hungry in the streets. A blindness to iniquity. Greed that justify s itself in the name of greed, and lust that approves itself based on its own understanding.

The man that hordes unto himself his own riches that were freely given needs to study further in the ways of the Lord. For Conservative is not a word found in the Bible, but a liberal is Divinely Justified.


[edit on 7-9-2009 by HIFIGUY]

posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 09:24 PM
reply to post by HIFIGUY

I agree in part with this but also disagree in part.

I’ll accept your assertion that ‘liberal’, in the general sense, does equate to generous. I’ll also agree that the Bible finds much fault and condemnation for the wealthy and approves of those that share or are ‘liberal‘ with their wealth; Jesus in particular railed often against the rich and stingy.

However, the sad reality is that many in the modern world who claim the mantle of ‘liberal’ often have a different understanding of what it is to be generous. They often feel that compulsory giving is required and to be forcibly imposed upon those who do not wish to be liberal/generous. This line of thought often manifests itself in compulsory taxes to achieve a perceived greater good.

The other problem is, these ‘liberals’ often find means and ends to justify their own hoarding of wealth (see Lennon, Bono, Gore, Streisand, Turner, et al.) They are often for ‘everyone’ paying their fair share, but not so much themselves. Hypocrisy is not looked upon favorably in the Bible.

So, if you are trying to make a scriptural connection between being ‘liberal’ and being good or righteous, in general, I do see some merit to your argument. But also as a generality, the modern ‘liberal’ often just acts as hypocritical as a Pharisee in proclaiming, “Do as I say and not as I do”. That surely is not what the Bible is promoting.

[edit on 6-9-2009 by passenger]

posted on Sep, 6 2009 @ 10:33 PM
Um.. Liberal means "open minded" .. or "progressive" .. where as Conservative means to "retain tradition"

For instance, as a strict constitutionalist I am considered far right...

At a state level I am very far left, pretty much a socialist..

But uh the whole biblical bs is pretty lame

PS... this has nothing to do with economics...?

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 12:57 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Um.. Liberal means "open minded" .. or "progressive" .. where as Conservative means to "retain tradition"

The Gideons Bible uses the word generous.

The King James uses liberal, and still others say noble.

So lets use an example.

Which is more noble? To devise a system of health care that provides for all Americans, from the greatest to the least? devise one only for those that are able bodied and can afford it.

Which is more generous or in today's terms? Wouldn't helping everyone from the greatest to the least in health care be considered a liberal ideology?


posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 01:17 PM
reply to post by HIFIGUY

Your using a Bible as a dictionary? The most poorly trnaslated book in history?

When speaking in terms of money, liberal means generous.. it can also mean frivolous.. "Tom is very liberal in his spending" ..

Buy a dictionary and put your bibles down...

posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 02:24 PM
reply to post by Rockpuck

So, would you say that taking care of all Americans regarding health care from the least to the greatest is a liberal act, or one of conservatism?

Proberbs 23:6

Do not eat the food of a stingy man, do not crave his delicacies;


posted on Sep, 7 2009 @ 03:04 PM
reply to post by HIFIGUY

Its progressive, as the constitution does not appoint the Gov as regulator of healthcare, by the tenth amendment, the states do.. thus to grant power to the gov goes against tradition, so it cannot be Conservative, you are conserving nothing.

Does that mean Conservatives by nature do not wish to see some form of social health care? No, it only means that by definition they should expect the States, per the 10th, to assume responcibility.

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