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Europe: Continent of Losers

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posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 01:30 AM
From a very long article

A class of losers

- Would it not be a solution to let the superfluous sons come to Europe?

"What happens in Europe is that all the countries — there are no exceptions — are ageing nations that do not fully reproduce themselves. Thus they have embarked on a process where they eat each other's talents. Why are they not looking for talent in Africa, where the population has grown from 100 million in 1900 to an estimated 2 billion in 2050? Why not in Islam, where we have a similar population explosion? Why is America looking for talent in Germany, why is Denmark looking for Poles? Because the third world countries do not have the educational level that is needed in the developed countries that can only maintain their position through innovation. For that purpose they need young people who have grown up in a high-tech society. It is not because Africans or Muslims are not as intelligent as others, they are just not socialised in a way that makes them useful in our societies."

- In Demark we now have a number of highly educated immigrants and their descendents from Muslim countries — doctors, lawyers etc. But many of them are as unintegrated as are many of the uneducated. They remain as extremist and as Islamicist as if they had not received a higher education?

"I will leave the evaluation of Danish conditions to the Danes. However, we experience the same phenomenon in England. There we have a population within the population, namely the Pakistanis, who have the highest birth rate in the country, and who are most dependent on social transfers. In the Western countries we have a social system that is hardly being used by the local population. On the other hand there is an immigrant population whose women cannot compete in the local workforce. For Danish and German women the welfare benefits are too low to be attractive. Not so for the immigrants. So what we see in England, France, Germany and the Netherlands are immigrant women who take low-paid jobs which they supplement with public benefits. It is not a fantastic income but sufficient for them. And this creates a career type for women only, which their daughters carry on."

"But the sons do not have this option. They grow up on the bottom of society without the intellectual skills needed to improve their social position. It is these boys who burn Paris, who burn parts of Bremen. Some of them make it to university and become leaders of the others — not poor, but young men with low status who believe that they are oppressed because of their Islamic faith, but in reality it is the welfare state itself that has created this class of losers."

"If, on the other hand, one goes to Canada, where I have lived part of each year for the last 20 years, they have a completely different policy. They say: Our immigration policy has a simple base. Every newborn Canadian and every new Canadian who comes from abroad has to be more intelligent than those who were here before. Because only through innovation can we keep our position in world competition. Therefore I want my son to be smarter than me. And believe it or not: Of 100 adult Canadian immigrants, 98 have better professional qualifications than the Canadian average. In Germany and France the corresponding number is 10 per cent. So we went for quantity, and they went for quality."

"And why? In Germany because people were afraid of being called racists, and it looks like all European nations suffer from the same fear of making choices."

The Fifth Village

"I am very pessimistic about the future. Europe's situation reminds me of the principle that is called 'The Fifth Village' in Brandenburg and Mecklenburg, who have experienced population decline. So four villages are being abandoned and the remaining population is moved to the fifth village. However, that does not increase the birth rate in the fifth village. And after some time the fifth village will also be populated by old people, and there are no young people in the vicinity to work for their pensions."

The young are leaving

- But will we even deal with nations in the future? If Europe gets a Muslim majority, it is not certain that Danes, Germans, Frenchmen etc. will bow to sharia law. Might the result be that the indigenous populations will withdraw to their own enclaves, from whwre they will try to defend themselves, as we have seen in Bosnia?

"That is of course a possibility, but one must ask oneself who is it that will stay and fight? I might because I am more or less forced to stay here. But if I were an 18-year-old ethnic German, done with high school, then I would do like most others are already doing. I would want to study in the Anglo-Saxon world and then I would emigrate. I would not want to stay and fight. The Anglo-Saxon world needs 50 million well-qualified immigrants within the next 30-40 years, so well-qualified young people from Western Europe will have every incentive to go there instead of staying and fighting."

"A possibility is to aim for Chinese immigration. If we in Germany had the same number of Chinese immigrants as they have in Canada, we would have 3 million. But immigration from China has not even been considered in Europe."

"China is the fastest ageing nation in the world after Germany, Japan and South Korea. We usually view China as a sleeping giant. I on the other hand see China as a source from where the Western nations will skim the best. And they will get them. Currently, rich Chinese are preoccupied with moving their riches to Switzerland because with the few children being born in China, people in their 40s have no chance of ever getting a pension. China is down to a fertility rate of 1.6 children per woman. The country is already losing 500 000 of its best every year. The young see no hope of ever being able to build a pension plan in their home country. Therefore they settle in Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Canada etc."

"In East Germany they have just decided to demolish an additional 400 000 apartments. There are no people for them, and the empty apartments ruin the banks by depressing the rents and the prices of housing. In West Germany we are also losing population. We have to stop taking the least suitable immigrants. To attract young and competent people, we might give them a house. That was the way Brandenburg secured the French Huguenots in the 17th century. But I doubt it will work today."
Demographic rearmament?

- Would it be possible to imagine that Europeans might suddenly start to multiply as a moral obligation to maintain the people and the culture? It was what happened after the British had conquered French Quebec. The Catholic priests put pressure on the French families to put up to 15 children into the world, and this demographic effort was successful?

Gunnar Heinsohn does not give much of a chance to such a strategy. It would require draconian measures, which the Europeans would not accept. Promises of money will not work except for people with little education and low status — which just makes the situation worse.

"Or take the Tunisian example. A woman in Tunisia has 1.7 children. In France she may have six because the French government pays her to have them. Of course, the money was never intended to benefit Tunisian women in particular, but French women will not touch this money, whereas the Tunisian women are only too happy to."

So we need to discriminate?

"That will not work. It is too late. The moment you start discriminating, you will be dragged into each and every international court in existence. This is what the Anglo-Saxon world has escaped by discriminating at the border. Not based on race or ethnicity but based on qualifications.

posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 02:00 AM
Ok, so you're great at cut paste - you posted a long article.

(By the way it would be great if you'd used the external source tags around your post content to show when it's from a external source)... (Those tags would be this bracket [ and then the letters ex followed by this bracket ] placed at the beginning of the article, and the then a [ followed by a / followed by ex followed by a ] at the end of the article)...

Anyway, you posted the article - now - what's your point of view?
Why the post?
What motivated you to post it?
Do you agree?
Or did you find the title provocative?

Personally, IMO, all 'races' as we know them today are (for the most part and using vast generalization) so polluted and corrupted with out breeding - it wont be long until there are no more 'pure' bloodlines or races.

We're all heading down the road of mongrelism.

The question is - is this a good thing, or a bad thing.

That's the crux of it...

IMO of course.


posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 02:03 AM
reply to post by silo13

The Demographic changes are interesting.

posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 04:04 AM
Wow ... it must be HARD to immigrate to Canada! Kinda a shame because I want to move to Vancouver ... do I have to become a doctor or something if I want to!

posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 04:10 AM

Originally posted by Donnie Darko
Wow ... it must be HARD to immigrate to Canada! Kinda a shame because I want to move to Vancouver ... do I have to become a doctor or something if I want to!

If you're a doctor, it helps to be a Jihadi too.. well that's if you want to be in UK's DHS.

posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 04:27 AM
Interesting article.

But what always strikes me is the lack of understanding as to why the natives don't want to touch welfare money.
It's not because they feel they are too good for it.

The point that the academics seem to miss is that people want to keep it for their retirement and so forego it when they are younger and more able to make their own living.
In the hope that because they have worked all their lives and paid their fair share of tax, that in their old age their pension will be there.
It's a cultural expectation that's been around for quite a few generations now.
If they throw this welfare money that the locals are hoping will be held in trust for their retirement, to the newcomers who are willing to have heaps of kids, then it's a perpetuating cycle of where there won't be money to pay for pensions for the elderly and high breeders will have to be imported in, in perpetuity. But maybe that's the plan.

I sometimes feel the people who write these articles haven't been living in the countries they are writing about for too long. Or, they don't seem to understand the unsaid but assumed expectations of the populations and their culture.

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