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Originally posted by Udontknowme
reply to post by Brother Stormhammer
The author states, "atmospheric samples in Santa Fe, New Mexico."
Why does it matter? An atmospheric sample of any kind, any where, showing biological and non-biological pollution should be studied further, especially this day and age.
What do you have to say about the Swedish article pointing to metallic particulate being 50% of volume? You didn't question where or at what
altitude they were sampling.
Originally posted by Le Colonel
When I was young, the planes did not leave trails that lasted for hours. The planes did not leave trails that "become" clouds themselves.
*********special access programs********
In government there are three basic lines of defense against 'sensitive' documentation. They are in order classified, secret, top secret............... See everyone at ATS is well over the government grades...That's why were all so smart. This grading system, and all official US documents become subject to the Freedom Of Information Act. Meaning at some point there is no hiding it.
In order to assure lasting secrets, the boys in black, or should I say the shadow government/power broker's came up with SAP's long ago.
All truly Black Ops are placed in SAPS.
These Special Access Programs are always done through the large private military industrial complex. In this way, of hiding it through multinational corporations there is never any government oversight.
The congress does fund these corporations, and there is even a Special Access Program ***Oversight Committee***SAPOC. However, they are privy to nothing more than the possibility of said programs; which means many times they don't even have a name for them.
Now, the way in which a SAP operates is to commence, and complete well over 90% of said project in public view through various fronts. Once, the project reaches a nexus point, then it is said a failure, and 'dropped'.
The programs used originally would be of a nature where it would be common knowledge to the average person...Eg. weather manipulation/modification, scientific studies into medicine/DNA, etc.
Later it is picked up by the SAP, and the final never to be known stages of said program are finished.
At the point the public program is deemed a "failure" the a large majority of the SAP funding is put toward a disinformation campaign.
Usually a high percentage of the SAP program funding is put directly into program security, and disinformation campaign.... The campaign launched weaves a tail between the original public program, and the newer SAP; in so doing it makes the *******whistle blowers******** look flustered, and disorganized.
For myself considering the nature of the above, for any pertinent information coming to light, which helps illustrate a SAP, then it deserves a little room for respect, study, and observation.
CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL
I wish people would wake up and notice the hazy skies, dying birds, bees, trees, bizarre weather, dead fish, beaching whales and dolphins, and people getting 2 and 3 chronic diseases with no cure, no cause known. What will it take for people to wake up to aircraft are severely polluting our skies. I would behoove us to know how much, so that we may stop it.
Originally posted by Le Colonel
ok, so chemtrails are supposedly just caused by air temperature and exhaust from the plane.
When I was young, the planes did not leave trails that lasted for hours. The planes did not leave trails that "become" clouds themselves.
So if it is not chemicals added, hence chemtrail, then obviously something has changed in the fuel that is used.
Could chemicals be hidden in the fuel? just asking. There is something strange going on with the trails, so people who close their eyes and go "lalalala" are deluding themselves, but at the same time, the people who yell and scream that the government is spreading chemical agents in the trails are maybe a little too far. WHere is the middle ground? The answer must lie somewhere in between.
The 747-400ER is the Boeing answer to customer demand for a more capable 747-400 that has modern features and is easy to integrate into existing fleets. The 747-400ER has an increased takeoff weight of 910,000 pounds (412,770 kg). This takeoff weight increase of 35,000 pounds (15,876 kg) over existing 747-400s allows operators to fly about 410 nautical miles (760 km) farther or carry up to 15,000 pounds (6,800 kg) more payload, either in the form of extra cargo or a full load of 416 passengers.
Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
I've always stated from secret Area 51 type craft.
Originally posted by Udontknowme
Wait, that would make you a "useless eater"
Originally posted by Udontknowme
If found a post in a forum that said they did a google search on the word "chemtrail" in Oct, 2005,and the result was 280,000 hits
Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
I've never said chemtrails come from regular commercial craft. I've always stated from secret Area 51 type craft.
The goal of obtaining new Near Field data was clearly met and exceeded. Both gas and particle data were obtained from very close to the engine (< 50m) to far from the aircraft (>10 km) for a variety of aircraft. Data were obtained in persistent and not- persistent contrails, in exhaust which did not form a contrail, at a variety of altitudes and for fuels with a large range of sulfur contents. Unique data on concentrations of sulfur, nitrogen, and odd- hydrogen species, as well as on particles were obtained. Numerous emission indices were determined for a variety of aircraft and flight conditions.