Liberal Socialism, Nazi Germany and the New World Order

I just read an interesting article that was read by William Cooper on his show Hour of Time.. It almost sounded like I was reading about America today. It's about how radical, leftist socialism is a destroyer.

I will quote some of the article and then add comments.

"During the past several months in the American press, the Democrats have frequently denounced the Republicans and other people on the right -- the militias, patriots, Christians -- as Nazis, due to their attempt to control runaway federal spending. How very ironic! I remember the Nazis, and let me share with you a little about them and recall some of their exploits.

First of all, "Nazi" was gutter-slang for the verb "to nationalize". The Beider-Meinhoff gang gave themselves the moniker during their early struggles. The official title of the Nazi Party was "National Socialist Workers Party of Germany." Hitler and the Brown Shirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, natural resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement."

Heloo, anybody home? This is exactly what the left wants to do in this country. They want to control banks, car companies, housing, health care, energy, education, your behaviour and more.

If you don't eat the foods they think you should eat or drive the cars they think you should drive they don't like it.

You will not be able to sell your house unless it complies with Obama's Global Warming standard. They just passed a bill to try and control executive pay. The problem is not executive pay but crooked politicians.

I'm an Independent but I hope America gives control of the Senate to the Republicans. Pelosi and the left in the House are out of control and we need balance in the Senate.

Clinton was heading off of a cliff until he lost Congress in 94 and he had to triangulate. This way they will be gridlocked and I don't want them wasting and spending trillions everytime you look up.

Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed and academic elite against the Conservative Republic. After Der Fuhrer's election, the Nazi Party ceased being a political conspiracy and was transformed into a fashionable social phenomenon. Party membership was especially popular with educators, bereaucrats, and the press. Being a Nazi was politically correct. They called themselves, and this is an exact quote; "The Children of the New Age of World Order," and looked down their noses at everyone else.

As Hitler accrued more power, he began referring to his critics as; "...the dark forces of anarchy and hatred." Anyone who questioned Nazi high-handedness and the German press was branded a "conservative reactionary."

Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Communications, proclaimed, and I quote exactly; "A New World Order." The Nazi reign of terror began with false news reports on the radio and in the newspapers. Paramilitary groups of Poles, Jews, Bohemians and Gypsies were said to be arming themselves to overthrow the "New World Order," and Hitler demanded that "all good people register their guns so that they wouldn't fall into the hands of terrorists and madmen," and that's a direct quote; "...fall into the hands of terrorists and madmen."

"Right-wing fanatics" of the old order who protested firearms registration were arrested by the SS and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the government of the German people."

Everything about liberal socialism is control.

They want gun control, they want to control tests given by Doctors.

I have to stop here to talk about Obama and the healthcare plan. This is all about control. Obama thinks he's a Doctor and that a panel in Washington can control costs by reducing volume.

So the woman who's about to get surgery needs to just take a pain pill. You just need to take the cheap blue pill but I bet when Obama and his family gets sick he wants the best pill. He wants volume, but for you he wants to ration out healthcare.

They want to control the car you drive and how you use energy. They want to control the risk you take and how you live. If it's not in accordance to the law of Obama, then your in the wrong.

The Gestapo began to confiscate and seize the homes, businesses, bank accounts, and personal belongings of wealthy conservative citizens who had prospered in the old Republic. Pamphleteers who urged revolt against the Nazis were shot on site by national law enforcement and the military.

This is just redistribution of wealth. This is what Obama wants and he called a fundamental flaw in the Constitution.

He said the Constitution was flawed because it restrained Government and it didn't talk about the Redistribution of wealth.

This was tried by Mugabe and he destroyed the country. He took wealth from the rich and then printed up a lot of money and caused hyperinflation. This redistribution of wealth nonsense is dangerous.

Like I said, I'm an independent when it comes to Politics but I will be voting for a straight Republican ticket next election.

If the Senate becomes as radical as Pelosi and the House, we can kiss the country good bye. The Republicans are horrible as well but we need a divided Government and hopefully they will not do anything.

The more they try to do things, the more money is spent and wasted.

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The Nazis were actually a rightwing movement, in the Fascist category. Nazis jailed, tortured, and murdered both liberals and socialists.

This argument about left or right is not wise. Politics are not exact science, the same side (like republicans or democrats in US for example) changes opinions about most important matters several times throughout its history. Democratic party origins was not exactly against slavery - for example.
So Nazis were National (which is now considered right) Socialists (which is now considered left). They had the same red flag as Communists and even celebrated 1st of may as workers day. Also they applied racist approach.
It is advised to try and think outside the frames of mass education which for ease of process simplifies everything. Nazis spoke about new world order, Communists spoke about new world order, Napoleon spoke about new world order . And numerous of other political forces/figures. It is easier to make people follow you this way, since always current situation with its idiotic problems is acknowledged by people as such, and future promises (that ultimately lead to same idiotic problems,or even bigger idiotic problems) are looking great.
People should not trust anyone claiming to have all the answers.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge

So Nazis were National (which is now considered right) Socialists (which is now considered left). They had the same red flag as Communists and even celebrated 1st of may as workers day. Also they applied racist approach.

Hitler said, of the Nazi Party, "We don't socialize banks and industries; we socilaize people." They therefore were not "socialists" in the proper sense of the term; instead their "socialism" was built around controlling culture (which is a conservative trait), and not the economy. Volkswagon, and many other capitalist corporations, thrived under Nazi rule (thanks in no small part to slave labor).

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Venezuela is led by Socialists. China is supposed to be Socialistic. Both have corporations. Volkswagen for example was public corporation founded by Nazis. There is no country that 100 percent had Socialistic government as definition has it. Not even in Soviet Union. Nor in N.Korea/China/Cuba/Venezuela. So why National Socialists had to follow every single principle to deserve "Socialist" title?

It's easy to paint socialism as a devil when you don't understand what it is. The same happened with the Communist Witch Hunts and McCarthy in the 50s.

And people wonder why Americans are reviled around the world. Our lack of knowledge on just about anything is embarrassing to a point where we start wars on false premises, we "police" the world and we rank low in categories that we should be leading in.

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge


So why National Socialists had to follow every single principle to deserve "Socialist" title?

The Nazis, even in their own literature, opposed socialists and socialism. Anyone in Nazi Germany suspected of being a socialist was subject to jail, torture, and even murder.

Hitler explains his views on the subject thoroughly in "Mein Kampf".

For example, you mention that the Nazis chose the color red, the symbolic color of socialism. But Hitler wrote:

We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people. - Mein Kampf, Vol. 2, Chap. 7.

Matrix Rising,

Nazi means National Socialist, not "to nationalize".

The Baader-Meinhof group certainly did not refer to themselves "Nazis", not early on, not ever. These were people growing up in the 50's and 60's suffering from what only can be described as a very severe case of "Naziphobia". The whole established order of West Germany was described as the "Hitler generation" by them, standing between themselves and the glories of a post revolution Flower Power Communist world. How did the Baader-Meinhof crowd get that way? By 30 years of relentless anti-Nazi and denazification horror and moralistic propaganda, not least directed from Washington and Hollywood and including the notion that National Socialism was somehow "Capitalist" etc.

Who were behind this antifascist drive of the postwar world? Same people as are building the NWO now.

The official title of the Nazi Party was "National Socialist Workers Party of Germany." Hitler and the Brown Shirts advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, natural resources, manufacturing, distribution and law enforcement."

Pretty much correct, but what do you expect from a Socialist movement like Nazism in the first place? And why do you find this controversial? Reforms like these certainly weren't viewed as 'evil' in interwar, depression era Europe, rather to the contrary, and German society was, at least in part, already moving in this 'socializing' direction during the Wilhelmine and Weimar epochs. Railways and education had for example been nationalized long ago. State interaction with industry, protectionism and social insurance policies were in fact part and parcel of German industrial success in late 19th and early 20th century (just as protectionism/strong home markets were part of the US economic success story at the time).

Hitler came to power by turning the working class, unemployed and academic elite against the Conservative Republic.

Calling Weimar Germany a "Conservative Republic" might appear a pretty strange way of putting it. Weimar Germany was probably most strongly defended by Market Liberal, Liberal Left and Social Democratic establishment forces. Conservatives tended rather to side with the National Socialists on the issue of the Weimar Republic (which is only natural, in as far as both Nazis and Conservatives had the people foremost in mind, rather than personal career or "international solidarity").
What did Hitler in the mind of the Nazis turn the working class, unemployed and academic elite against? Against the speculators, Jews and other ruthless globalist parasites, feeding on the subdued body of Germany and the lack of egalitarian solidarity between Germans. This was the deal as the Nazis saw it.
"Conservative reactionaries" were despised no doubt, but mostly because they were regarded as either elite egoist or too feeble minded and decadent to turn the tide of destructive forces encroaching upon Germany in the modern age.

Right-wing fanatics" of the old order who protested firearms registration were arrested by the SS and put in jail for "fomenting hatred against the government of the German people."

Really? Why have I never heard about this? You're sure the article simply does not anachronistically confuse Germany of the 30's with the United States of today and its contemporary firearms debate which appears pretty queer to most people outside the United States?

Now, to the point! You call this thread "Liberal Socialism, Nazi Germany and the New World Order". Why? What in some social policies suggests there is a link between these entities? As far as I can perceive, absolutely nothing, which is just as well because the notion that the NWO has anything to do with Nazism or Fascism is plainly absurd and absolutely untenable.

Fascism and Nazism were in fact crushed by the very same ideologies, interests, people and relatives that today constitute what we call the NWO.

[edit on 4-8-2009 by Tussilago]