Pat Buchanan: Not Racist, Not Violent, and Not Respected!

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife


Hast, I pretty much agree. And about the Al SHarpton thing I just wanna say a lot of black people dont like those guys. We wish theyd just shut their mouths most the time. People like him are the reason white people have stereotypes of blacks and think we blame everything on "the white man".

Guys - Most black people DO NOT blame everything on slavery or the "white man". Like I said in my other post I came from nothing and now I'm quite successful and many of my friends have done the same. No one and nothing stood in our way. Black people gotta get rid of the whole "were trapped in the ghetto" mentality.

Oh and white people yall can pull the race card if yall want to too, people are racist to whites. BUT in my opinion using the race card s a sign of weakness whether you are white or black.

Peace.



[edit on 24-7-2009 by jeasahtheseer]

reply to post by jeasahtheseer


I agree with you too.

On a lighter note:

I wish there were some white people would shut up too, like Pelosi and Boxer

Edit to add - Also Hannity and O'rielly would be nice if they could keep their mouths shut.

That is a whole 'nother issue too that I can't stand, how people like to label people. Like conservatives and liberals, it happens with all the time, conservatives get accused of listening to Rush or Hannity or O'Rielly, just because they express conservative views about some things, and liberals get accused of being socialist or commies because they express liberal views on some things.

I think that is what the root of the problem is, people feel like they need to label everybody even though people don't know anything about a person. Labels and stereotypes are killing this country.

[edit on 24-7-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

How come people like the professor don't ever bring up how their own people are committing genocide over in Africa right now. The slave trade is alive and well, it's going on over in Africa right now

thats what you said. and i was showing that white people are slaving people out too so pointing it out that it happens in africa is moot.

So what is your point?

My point is everyone has a sob story homie, everyone.

Yea maybe if people stop being hypocrites by stating things like these(all from what you posted just now):

Where am i being hypocritical your gonna have to point it out i'm not seeing it so thats probably the problem..be gentle

You feel that there should be social justice. Social justice for what? Everybody is in the same boat in 2009. Will I deny that racial profiling still exists? No I won't, but at the same time, there is racism going against white people, and everybody else.

The people that protested against segregation are still alive it only happened in the late 1950s. You might know the more famous ones in Arkansas, you know the national guard had to be called in. The generational gap is only one..your (not yours explicitly) grandparents protested sending their kids to school with black children. Your parents were pulled from one school in favor of an all white one. Hate is taught chief, sometimes learned but mostly taught. Do you think that those parents passed down some of their values to their children?

Everybody is NOT in the same boat in 2009, there are still racial and economic barriers.

reply to post by cenpuppie


thats what you said. and i was showing that white people are slaving people out too so pointing it out that it happens in africa is moot.

And there are black people that are killing white people and running them out of their countries in Africa right now. So your point is moot.

My point is everyone has a sob story homie, everyone.

I agree, everybody does.

My point is everyone has a sob story homie, everyone.

I'll get to this a little later in the post.

The people that protested against segregation are still alive it only happened in the late 1950s. You might know the more famous ones in Arkansas, you know the national guard had to be called in. The generational gap is only one..your (not yours explicitly) grandparents protested sending their kids to school with black children. Your parents were pulled from one school in favor of an all white one. Hate is taught chief, sometimes learned but mostly taught. Do you think that those parents passed down some of their values to their children?

Everybody is NOT in the same boat in 2009, there are still racial and economic barriers.

There is now a black president sitting in the White House right now. That is where the hypocrite comes in.

Yes there are still racial and economic barriers, and they apply just as much to mexicans, white people, indians, asians, etc.

Then there is your other hypocritical statement:

Hate is taught chief, sometimes learned but mostly taught.

Yep and there are black people teaching their kids to hate white people. Mexicans teaching their kids to hate Guatemalans and Puerto Ricans, and vice versa.

It happens everyday, day in and day out. And you know what it probably isn't ever going to change in mine or yours lifetime.

The economic and social barriers are not unique to one race. To single it out to be one is being intellectually dishonest.

The only thing we can do about it is move on and quit trying to force the issue of social justice. Because you can not legislate morality, and when you try too you are just creating more problems.

reply to post by Hastobemoretolife

And there are black people that are killing white people and running them out of their countries in Africa right now. So your point is moot

My point isn't moot, i made it. If you would have said that from the beginning i would have agreed with you, which i do.

The economic and social barriers are not unique to one race. To single it out to be one is being intellectually dishonest.

Whoa, i never singled it out to one race, this is what i said "Everybody is NOT in the same boat in 2009, there are still racial and economic barriers." I didn't mention any one race because everyone feels it, even white folks.

How is having a black president hypocritical to what i said? I can't say that there is still racism in america and we still have a long way to go because our president is black? Uh, no.

"Hate is taught chief, sometimes learned but mostly taught" How is that hypocritical..Hate is taught. But sometimes it can be learned, sometimes.

Because you can not legislate morality, and when you try too you are just creating more problems.

Great point! I wonder what you would say to your forefathers in Congress and America back some 50 years ago before the civil rights protests. Those guys legislated morality, since blacks weren't "equal" to whites we don't deserve the same rights and benefits..but we're taxed the same thou!

I must admit this is one of the better debates i've had, great points all around.

Pat Buchanon has the same ideology of Ron Paul. He was a liberatarian republican. In 1996 he ran on that platform. I lump Pat with Shiff, Paul, Denniger. The people who saw this coming that no one listen too.

[edit on 24-7-2009 by Spartak_FL]

reply to post by rnaa

If your intention is assert that Buchanan is worthy of respect because he is not racist and not violent, well, unfortunately Mr. Buchanan tries his very hardest to debunk all three assertions in this encounter on Hardball.

Nothing he said there was racist. I think you're just trained to think if a white man talks about race, it must be racist. The guy hes "debating" with there has said more racist things against whites than I can count. The guy leaps at every opportunity to play the victim.

According to a friend of my parents who worked a little with Buchanan, he's a little like Nixon was - he doesn't necessarily like or trust anyone who isn't like him (maybe it's in the genes, who knows). I know he's made negative public references to many ethnic and racial groups and made that dumb mistake of standing by the Nazi who was recently deported to Germany for trial.

I don't trust Buchanan and he's got serious issues, but he has been doing what most other journalists are scared of doing, telling it like it is and ringing the alarm button. You can see he's scared of what's going on in the U.S. and when the house of cards completely collapses i'm sure that he'll be deep in it too since he's not part of the elitist community.

As for being called a White Supremicist, i'm not so sure that the White Supremicists are overly fond of HIM, being of Scottish/Irish decent and a devout Catholic, since the White Supremicist makeup is mostly WASP and there's still lots of anti-Irish sentiment out there. My opinion though.