reply to post by ChrisF231
Was it worth disbanding an entire elite regiment and losing the parachute capability for the Canadian Army just because of the actions of a few? And
quite frankly the kid shouldent have stolen from them, if you play with fire your going to get burned pure and simple.
Good point but kids stealing as an excuse?? um NO. We were peacekeepers -- not supposed tyrants. There is no HONOUR in abusing the locals, none at
all...again ESPECIALLY since we (Canadians) were peacekeepers.
Therefore it was a necessity that that branch be closed --for good. In fact, there used to be an entire infantry regiment that were cowards on the
field and supposedly turned foot and ran in combat (I don't recall which battle nor can I find the regiment's name now grr) that had to even arrive
on parade with a yellow feather in their berets. I believe now that reg. has been disbanded years ago. If anyone can find info on it, let me know.
I am former RCR (non-airbourne) trained often by the British, I know when I heard this entire escapade I was thoroughly ashamed. My parents were both
RCAF, my grandfather was also RCR - would be turning in his grave. He wouldn't even consider doing these kinds of things even during his time near
the beaches of Vimmy.
and here is a great site to explain why it HAD to be disbanded:
"The regiment was disbanded in 1995, after a series of disclosures of racism, brutality and misconduct, which also took down as collateral damage the
defence minister, David Collenette, and the chief of the defence staff, Gen. Jean Boyle.
The CAFA feels strongly there is still a need for airborne troops in today's military environment.
Huronia branch president Jerry Robertson says the new Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR) is proof that "we still need an airborne unit."
The CSOR, sometimes referred to as "Son of Airborne" is set to become fully operational soon. Robertson, who lives in Holland Landing, served in the
Regiment as a full-time soldier, as did Luttrell. Iversen was a reserve, part-time soldier but nonetheless qualified for his wings and jumped with the
Iversen says a major air crash or other disaster in Canada's remote north would require the Forces to have the ability to drop a field hospital and
staff, and that we would also need such a capability to respond to disaster and chaos anywhere in the world. He says the CAFA is determined to
maintain that mission. Many of the search-and-rescue specialists in the air force were once members of the Airborne.
As well, Forces personnel from a variety of units and trades graduate as jumpers each year.
"We're not advocating going back to what was," Iversen says. "We're advocating the need for a disciplined, trained airborne force."
The Canadian Airborne Regiment was the brainchild of Gen. Jean Victor Allard, who was chief of the defence staff in 1968. It was, from the outset, a
unit without a mission, as combat parachute drops were not part of Canada's military doctrine.
Critics of the new unit described it as "three lies in one." It was not truly Canadian, but more American in its philosophy and organization. It was
not really airborne because it had no operational parachute role, and never carried out an operational drop in its history. And it was not a regiment
in the Canadian sense, in that soldiers were assigned to it on a temporary basis, and it was not organized like a regiment.
As a result, it became a place where commanders could dump their troublemakers for a few years, by which time the commanders would have moved on and
the bad apples would be someone else's problem.
An inquiry in the 1980s found that the Airborne had a much higher incidence of assault and other criminal activity than any other unit. Officers and
non-coms who tried to enforce discipline sometimes suffered reprisals, such as having their cars burned. What is not generally known is that the
regiment was almost disbanded in 1985, in the aftermath of the machete murder of a civilian by an airborne soldier in a bar brawl.
However, the reverse is also true, in that most members of the unit were among the best and finest the Forces had to offer. They served honourably and
professionally on several overseas missions, including a deployment to Cyprus that turned into a shooting war when Turkey invaded the island.
Still, non-Airborne soldiers correctly point out that the Airborne did nothing that could not have been done equally well by a regular infantry
It was also the only Canadian unit to have the theme song of a Hollywood movie as its regimental march, the jingoistic opus, The Longest Day. This
connected the Airborne to those Canadians who jumped into France on D-Day, an event seen as heralding the start of the Airborne tradition in this
The American connection continues. Robertson admits that after serving with America's Special Forces, he believes Canada's paratroopers "are closer
to the Americans than anyone else."
The CAFA also mirrors this in its ceremonies. Although Canadians traditionally declare loyalty to the Queen, the group also has a religious,
patriotic, American-style "Pledge of Allegiance" to the flag, which is de rigueur at all meetings. "Anyone who doesn't want to say this," says
Luttrell, "I say 'there's the door, make sure it doesn't hit you in the ass on the way out.' "
"I think we set a good example of loyalty to our nation," says Iversen. "There is a correct way to act as a Canadian. We set the example."
And these men, now retired from the military but still strong and energetic, seem to believe that.
Bright-eyed and fit, they look back on their parachute experience as the highlight of their lives, and they exude a sense that no one else quite meets
their level of service, loyalty and patriotism.
After the disbandment of the regiment, parachute capability in the Canadian Forces was dispersed through the creation of "jump companies" in the
three regular force battalions, the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, the Royal Canadian Regiment, and the Royal 22nd Regiment. A reserve
unit was also created in the Queen's Own Rifles in Toronto. "