Ron Paul: Obama Will "Destroy the Dollar"

Originally posted by TSer78

Originally posted by Southern Guardian

Originally posted by Erasurehead
I recommend that everyone watch the video of the Newsmax.

Ron Paul says Obamas going to destroy america? for the 1000th time? Why on earth do you fellas even bother posting this as breaking news? The mans a broken record, his minions are broken records. Its almost as if you have to repeat the same thing over and over again just to get attention. We heard ya already, now stop making this breaking news for petes sakes.

Agreed.

First of all, Mr. "agreed", your post should just be completely removed for you obviously don't have anything to add to this conversation except your worthless one-liner opinion.

Well get ready to defend it, and everyone else who is bashing Ron Paul in this thread.

I'd like to see you spend 30 minutes a day trying to wake people up and see how much fun you have doing it - getting laughed at, getting ignored and put down. He has to repeat himself because people are not listening and this Country is going down the tubes.

Ron Paul and the men brave enough to continue to try to awaken the people are THE HEROES OF OUR TIME.

Would you have told MLK Jr. to shut up cause he sounded like a broken record with all that equality crap? Give me a break - these are the MAJOR PROBLEMS our Country is facing and I hope he says the same things over and over til YOU ALL WAKE THE HELL UP and get your greasy fingers off your keyboard and instead of putting anyone else down for what they are doing, GO DO SOMETHING YOURSELF - or be a tool and sthu about the people fighting for US, cause I for one, won't stand for it.

Minion out

reply to post by Solomons


No matter what George Orwell thought about Socialism, and Communism, the same goes for other Socialists, the fact is that Socialism was created as a first step to convert Capitalist free countries into Socialism, and then into Communism. There are groups of people who are very powerful who still want the same thing Marx wanted, and they will convert at the end every Socialist country into a Communist country.

The NWO will only succed once most nations are turned into Socialist dictatorships.

reply to post by Erasurehead


He's going to get himself killed at this rate.

But he has a following.

So he can't be killed.

Lol. The fed as created their own ultimate enemy by accident. A man with such a following that they cannot stop him without killing him, but if they kill him, they will cause massive upheaval. They must now deal with the consequences of their Frankenstein.

Go Paul go.

Ron Paul is absolutely right every time I've heard him. It's amazing how often I hear him, say he's right, then do nothing outside sending an email to uncooperative representatives and get form letter replies back. Obama and his team and the Fed are so full of crap and smoke and mirrors, yet they have followers that buy into the smoke and mirrors hook line and sinker.




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"If you should only have the faith of a mustard seed, you shall move mountains." - Jesus

Oh wait, YOU said you have NO faith......No Mountain moving for you I guess. lol. Why are we so quick to condemn? Do you believe that YOU can do better? It's ONLY been 4 months....WTF???!!! Have ye no patience?

Any reason to say something negative or try to discredit Obama huh?! Yea.....
What has anybody else done? ???? Thats right, NOTHING!!!!
Yet I know this will fall on deaf ears for I speak to the same Egos who almost....Just almost, crucified and impeached him for killing a fly on national TV.
Don't lie, you thought about it. You ALL did (The Obama Haters). Probably saying silently "How can we use this?!".
Hilarious.

A Flower For You.

reply to post by InthekNOwla


For crying out loud... Another Obamatron.... People like you should stop playing the racist card already...

Thanks to the Obama administration he spent more money than any other president EVER in his inauguration, meanwhile the Obama administration, and President Obama himself knew that we were in an economic crisis..

Then 3 trillion dollars are lost in a black hole, and President Obama himself stated noone knew where this money went...

Then President Obama nationalized GM, told GM to fire certain people, and dared to order what sort of cars GM and other car manufacturers should be making, all of this which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT....

Obama promised to bring our troops home, yet we have had the largest deployments of National Guard in most states, if not all of them, some of them being the largest deployments since WWII, while in other states is the largest deployment in those state's history....

The Obama administraiton gave power over all the learn and service based programs to something they call "the Corporation", which means all education, and all Community Service will be controlled by this "Corporation".

That's without talking about the fact that Obama, and Emmanuel Rahm have stated they want ALL Americans to do MANDATORY Community Service, and all Americans from age 18 - 25 to do at least 3 months of mandatory Military training.

The Obama youths are running around in red jackets spreading the same propaganda that Hitler's youth were spreading during NAZI Germany, and the same propaganda that exists in Communist dictatorships.

Not to mention that even the explorers in the boyscouts are being trained in counter-terrorism, and Obama himself has stated he wants his own NAZI miltiary youth program that Hitler, and also Communist dictators have, or had as in the case of Hitler.

All of the above, and more is happening and people like you only claim, "give the guy a chance, he has only been 4 months as president"?....

Ok kid, just keep watching your cartoons, and keep drinking the Socialist koolaid....




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reply to post by ElectricUniverse


My brother, I wont even attempt to argue with you on the issue at hand. You perceive fault in me thats not even there. I played NO race card, I quite simply made statements of fact. On the other hand, maybe I touched a sensitive subject for you??!! Awwwwwe. Obamatron?? Hardly. I do however give credit where credits due. You can keep regurgitating statistics, details, things you've heard OTHER people say, things you've read, or seen on TV, keep copy and pasting, etc, etc, etc. The fact of the matter is NONE of us know how this will play out. Furthermore, they call what you just did propaganda also. You're a regular Mike Moore. So go ahead. Keep on complaining about the "Obamatrons" or anyone else who has a difference of opinion. Stay on the attack, It'll pay off in the long run. lol. Sure he's spent a bunch of money trying to fix the BS that 8 years of the previous administration accumulated. Where was your voice then? NONEXISTENT I'm sure. Comical. Any woo, Im done wasting my time on you sir for since the beginning of time they have been some able to hear and others able to listen and not hear a thing. I guess you think he's the antichrist too! lol. Man please, your generation had its chance to do something for the world but all you "Old Heads" care about is self. Don't believe me? Turn on the news and see the legacy you leave to your children. Hey the truth hurts but it doesn't make it any less true. A child? Me? Im light years beyond what you could ever hope to achieve, GUARANTEED. So stick with your ideologies and rigid belief structures. They've benefitted you so far haven't they?! No need to reply, I will not respond again.

A Flower For You.

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reply to post by InthekNOwla


He isn't your brother, kid. Don't use that idiotic term.

Also, Obama has done in 4 months the horrible things Bush did in one term. Clap for you not to realize this.

Obama uses Jesus just as much in his speeches

Obama bails out companies just like Bush did

Obama continues the war in Iraq. He's just traded our position into guard post duty, just like what we do in Germany and Japan. Iraq's just another toy state to build as we want. The surge worked, Obama took over after wards, and now Iraq is our little pet to make into what we want: a pleasantly controlled democracy that gives us oil, and we give tanks and weapons. Just look at the Iraqi army, most of it is US equipment. mmmm, that's good war profiteering.

Obama has continued to do nothing in Israel. Why? because as long as Israel and Palestine bicker, there's justification to be there.

Obama has done nothing to address the climate change bill, which does not have any legislature to prevent big business from buying small businesses that can't afford to go green, thus allowing the big business to take them over, upgrade them on their own salary, make them profitable, and essentially make the carbon tax useless and null.

How's that any different then what Bush does for Halliburton?

Obama has continues to allow N Korea to act stronger then it is, so that he has justification to remain in the region. Just like Bush.

Obama has screwed over the middle class, just like Bush did with his crap

fixco1.com...

The fact remains that as of today, the only thing Obama has changed is health care reform which in itself is a big if, as how exactly can a nation of 300 million afford to go on the same system as our Canadian friends, who only have 30 million, a whole tenth of our population.


I'd like to know what Obama has done besides that to change directions. He claims alot but does nothing.

Where's my white house clarity? Where's my punishment for gitmo abusers? Where's my promise to not raise the middle class' taxes? Where's anything he promised?


4 months should be enough to show something for it. I see an line going in the same direction as the last 4 failisidents.

Get your religion and crap out of the topic at hand. The fact remains that Obama's course is indifferent to Bush, and is continuing in the direction of social, economic, military, and political collapse.

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The dollar is already destroyed. Instead of doing things to increase the value of the dollar, this administration just continues to hurt the dollar and the citizens. The future is quite bleak and I just hope there is enough of our country left to revive itself when Obama is voted out.

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When Germany's money collapsed..... Well.... You know the rest

reply to post by Gorman91


OK, you sound like a clone of the first guy I just finished with. You are my brother too your just unaware of your connectiveness to the whole. We are all brothers and sisters but I wouldn't except you to understand that or except it and I wont attempt to convey it any further. Cry, cry, cry.....thats all ya'll do. Obama did this and Obama did that and on and on and on and on. You all sound like broken records. Its all hypothetics. No one knows what will come of his efforts. YOU Don't know whats gonna happen in YOUR life in the next 5 mins. We'll all have to wait and see. Grow Up. You'll be the same people singing his praises in the years to come. MARK MY WORDS!!!!

A Flower For You.

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reply to post by Gorman91


Very good points.

Where are all of the war protesters? These people were in the streets screaming and following Bush around but Obama is doing the same thing and dropping bombs in Afghanistan and the ware protesters say nothing.

It just goes to show that these people didn't care about the war. It was just politics.

That's why I say it's not about health care and the uninsured it's about artificially bringing down health care costs because of Medicaire.

It's not about education. You have minority kids in Washington in a voucher program and they are happy and so are their parents. Obama has stopped enrollment into the program because it's not about education but his liberal ideology. His ideology says vouchers can never work and the only thing that can work is listening to the Teacher's Union and throwing more money down the drain of the Public School system.

I can go on and on.

All you have to do is listen to Obama's 2001 radio interview and you would know exactly what he's doing.

He wants to replace the Constitution with his liberal ideology because he thinks the Constitution is fundamentally flawed because it restrains Government and it doesn't talk about redistribution of wealth.

Obama is so full of himself that he thinks the Constitution is flawed even though it has served us for all these years and he thinks he can replace the Constitution with his liberal ideology.

The Founders restrained Governmnt because they wanted a limited Government that would protect the God Given rights of the individual.

They didn't want one man or the Government controlling your lives because they think you should live a certain way. That's a Dictator.

Obama controls car companies, he wants to control executive pay, you can't sell your real estate unless it reaches Obama's global warming standards, he has over 33 Czars and more.

Here's the Radio Interview:
www.youtube.com...

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reply to post by ElectricUniverse


If the elite bankers of the world are using an ideaology to further their agenda then that will happen...but if we didn't have the bankers an ideaology wouldn't be being used as a stepping stone to further an agenda,so you can't *blame* socialism,i will always support socialist policies such as an NHS,police force,fire brigade etc.btw we are not headed for communism at all...where we are heading would give communism a bad name.

reply to post by InthekNOwla


While you may not know, you can gather enough evidence to be 99.9% sure.

I am sure that in the next 5 minutes I will still be hear, on the computer, playing games.

I am sure I thought this same thought 5 minutes ago and I was right.

No, it is not hypotheticals. Because Bush did it for 8 years and it did not work. Now why would it work for Obama? because he's not Bush? Ha!

Nope. He will fail like Bush.

Oh look! The deficient is higher now that under Bush for 5 years! OH BOY!

I can therefore make the educated factual statement that nothing will change. We will have a larger deficient, and continue to go to hell in a hand basket.

Unlike you, I use facts to look to the future, not hypotheticals and hope. Ha. Hope. What has hope ever done then leave you in the rain hoping that someone will pass by nice enough to give you an umbrella. Hope does not deliver. It's the oldest trick in the book to raise the national following. but it never lasts. It's unsustainable.

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And you are not my brother. You are a human being, partially related to me some unknown dozens of generations back.

I do not call you my brother and I do not wish you to call me that. I have no direct relation to you not shall I ever. And while both our offspring may come to know each other, you and I are nothing more than human beings vaguely related over unknown dozens of generations. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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Very interesting article. Thank you.

What do you guys think will become of the dollar in the next year? Next 3 years? Next five years?

If the dollar winds up being "destroyed", it will be a direct result of the Bush Administration's irresponsible and criminal efforts, not Obama's fault. Trying to blame this train wreck on Obama is like someone losing control over a plane, sending it into a spiraling dive; and then handing the controls over to someone else and blaming him for the dire situation.

All the doom-sayers are full of carp (not a typo). Many countries in Europe have socialized their medicine, without sending themselves into bankruptcy. Yes, taxes will go up. Deal with it. Right now, tens of millions of hard-working people cannot get the medical care they need, because they're too rich for public aid, but not wealthy enough to pay for the treatment; and they have inadequate insurance, or none at all.

Make no mistake about it - the current financial crisis is the work of greedy Republicans and their cronies, not the Democrats, and certainly not Obama. After eight years of criminal misbehavior, Obama has so far had what - five months? - to straighten this mess out. It took a while to rape our middle class and hand the money over to the wealthy. It will take a while to restore balance. It's going to hurt.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Solomons

 

No matter what George Orwell thought about Socialism, and Communism, the same goes for other Socialists, the fact is that Socialism was created as a first step to convert Capitalist free countries into Socialism, and then into Communism. There are groups of people who are very powerful who still want the same thing Marx wanted, and they will convert at the end every Socialist country into a Communist country.

The NWO will only succed once most nations are turned into Socialist dictatorships.

I have taken you off my ignore list long to read your thoughts on communism and socialism - you are the only person on this list as you represent the most ill informed poster on ATS - you simply sprout poorly researched google searches as though you were somehow educated - I can highlight all of your posts where you consistantly deny that people "who write books" have no credibility merely as a front to present unsubstantiated hypothetical claptrap from unqualified quaks.

I now see you are rampaging on about the substantive differences between socialism and communism - what you have utterly failed to realise in your own loquacious diatribes is that you have completely mis-understood your own quotes and references. Completely !

This is becuase you have no collective understanding, no cross reference and no grounding for any relative comparison between these competing theories. You have not read Das Kapital have you - you know NOTHING of Freuds position on Marx, nor Foucault nor its relative position in the field of International Relations - in fact you would not be able to state the four main fields in the area - no chance - yet here you are pontificating about as though you were some expert in the field and presenting your word as gospel in political science.

I would like you to state for us on this site one book - a single book - you have ever read on political science as a mainstream political science and international relations.........

For your own benefit - your quotes of Marx and socialists specifically alluded to their distancing themselves from communism - in fact Marx himself distanced himself from communism - you have a profound lack of understanding regarding the man - you have never read his work - CLEARLY!!!

Marx was adamant about this - your lack of understanding on this most basic and fundamental point should be a clear warning to everyone to steer well clear of your Tabloid views, grandstanding diatribes, gossamer intellect and diaphanous theoretical positions - enough of your sophomanic pontificating.....for everyone's sake.

edit.....

Back on the ignore list

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"Hello, IRS can I pay you in hope and the promise of change?....No, well why not it's all we have."

To me it is not an issue of he’s black and im white not at all it’s an issue because he is has done more to hurt this country in his first 100 days in office than any other president EVER! and that is a fact he has perpetrated the largest government power grab in the history of our nation the government owns a car company we are starting to dip our fingers in to power plants and the like and we are about to have government insurance and you wont have a choice in 2 years after it is put in to place mark my words. Imho WORST PRESIDENT EVER!

reply to post by chiron613


Obama has used more money in his current time then half the Bush administration.

All those European nations are small and work together, while making the same as us (GDP wise). We have 300 million, not 30 million like Canada. Not 60 million like the UK.

We have a lot more people to care for. The amount of money those nations use is not comparable to ours.


Republicans did not spend money. Bush did. And Obama has continued, and expanded, the Bush financial doctrine.


End note:

Social Medicare can only work under 3 types of conditions:

- A large, billion population nation that is stable and has a large middle class (basically 3 USAs glued together)

- Lots of small inter working nations with interdependencies and helping and trading with each other (Europe)

- A nation like the US with a stably growing economy and no deficient.

The US is none of the above, so it cannot work here.

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reply to post by InthekNOwla


I know exactly what will come from his efforts, and everyone can see even today the results.

I have lived the Socialist dictatorship, which is actually nothing more than Communism, that you, and the Obama administration have been cheering for, and the Obama administration has implemented.

You claim that showing the facts, and even what the Obama administration itself has stated to the world is nothing more than propaganda from people like me?...

I guess you agree with Hillary Clinton when she stated to the Chinese government and the world that no human right is more important than the economic crisis, and any other crisis...

I guess you agree with Emmanuel Rham, and even President Obama in having to do MANDATORY Community Service, as well as military service if you are from age 18-25...

I wonder if you are between the ages of 18-25 if you are going to be awnsering your drill instructor with flowers every time he gives you an order....

BTW, you did not "finish anyone" but yourself. Keep some flowers for when you have to start doing mandatory Community Service, and mandatory military service.... I am sure you will need plenty of them to hide behind.



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