It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by sinthia
reply to post by caitlinfae
I am a Christian, and for over 12 years was into the occult, mediumship the whole shebang. I can see your side of the coin, but am convinced that not only is Satan real, he is behind all of the occult.
I just hope that others will find Jesus before it's too late
I take the other side of the coin. I was a Jew, Christian, Wiccan and Satanist and I can honestly say that the only power behind the occult and religion is human imagination.
Originally posted by Hazelnut
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by sinthia
reply to post by caitlinfae
I am a Christian, and for over 12 years was into the occult, mediumship the whole shebang. I can see your side of the coin, but am convinced that not only is Satan real, he is behind all of the occult.
I just hope that others will find Jesus before it's too late
I take the other side of the coin. I was a Jew, Christian, Wiccan and Satanist and I can honestly say that the only power behind the occult and religion is human imagination.
And according to Greg Braden in the Divine Matrix, the imagination is the source that creates reality. Quantum physics is in support of this science as we speak.
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by Hazelnut
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by sinthia
reply to post by caitlinfae
I am a Christian, and for over 12 years was into the occult, mediumship the whole shebang. I can see your side of the coin, but am convinced that not only is Satan real, he is behind all of the occult.
I just hope that others will find Jesus before it's too late
I take the other side of the coin. I was a Jew, Christian, Wiccan and Satanist and I can honestly say that the only power behind the occult and religion is human imagination.
And according to Greg Braden in the Divine Matrix, the imagination is the source that creates reality. Quantum physics is in support of this science as we speak.
No offense but don't even pretend you know anything about quantum physics. Quantum Physics does not="what the bleep do we know" movie. Quantum Physics may demonstrate that the universe is weirder and more complex than previously thought, but it doesn't support "mind over matter" or what have you in any form. Sorry. And your imagination doesn't create reality, hence why delusional people are delusional.
Originally posted by sinthia
- but how can you prove their source?
Originally posted by Animal
Now'a'days I find myself looking towards 'high magic' for lessons on my personal practice. Golden Dawn, Crawly, and the like.
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by sinthia
- but how can you prove their source?
How can YOU prove their source? You can't just like occult people can't. So saying they are wrong and you are right because they can't prove their position is moronic because you can't either !!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
[snip] that is meant to raise demons and evil spirits (hence the magic circle to protect yourself). In Wicca, why would you need to protect yourself if you are just trying to conjure pink bunny rabbits?
Originally posted by sinthia
Originally posted by RetinoidReceptor
Originally posted by sinthia
- but how can you prove their source?
The Bible can be proven to fulfill prophecy (see the book of Daniel) thereby proving the author (God via the Holy Spirit) and the integrity thereof. My source is the Bible, and the source is God. God clearly disaproves of occultism.
Now your turn.
The Christian Bible, The Muslim Quran, the Witches' Bible all came from men (people). One thing they all have in common is Love.
Lets pretend we believe love is the driving force behind all religions and further pretend we have accomplished this divine feat in all of its aspects. Then in our pretending we must conclude that there is nothing else except our interpretation of what love is. It (love) is not defensive, cruel, expectant or used as a tool to get what we want. Love IS. Love yourself, your creator and your fellow man with compassion, charity, forgiveness and hope.
[edit on 16-7-2009 by Hazelnut] quote tags still can't get them right
[edit on 16-7-2009 by Hazelnut]
The Christian Bible, The Muslim Quran, the Witches' Bible all came from men (people). One thing they all have in common is Love.
Lets pretend we believe love is the driving force behind all religions and further pretend we have accomplished this divine feat in all of its aspects. Then in our pretending we must conclude that there is nothing else except our interpretation of what love is. It (love) is not defensive, cruel, expectant or used as a tool to get what we want. Love IS. Love yourself, your creator and your fellow man with compassion, charity, forgiveness and hope.