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Your behind the scenes real history is always fascinating and has some points worth serious examination. I wish half of it were true.
But it's just so loaded with old wives tales misinformation, wonky speculations, grafted onto bits and pieces of documented history - one doesn't know where to start dissecting.
OK, just a couple highlights. There never were 12 Tribes, lost or stolen. A division of Judea and Samaria, but the other 10 are Sunday School biblical mythology. Hebrew history, we now know, is a blend of Sumerian, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian history mixing real people and events with a pile of cultural fairly tales. Read some real Biblical history sometime - like Thomas L. Thompson. He and the Scandinavian school show a very different historical record based on comparisons of other written documents and accounts, the geological and anthropological record, newly translated writings, etc.
The Al Saud family really can't be traced back more than the 15th Century. Like so many they have invented a noble & righteous prehistory for themselves. It would be interesting if they were interesting. But just a gang of barbaric Bedouins lucking out in the 1930s finding the sand beneath their feet was awash in oil, not much lineage. Had they played their cards right, they'd be the richest people on the planet.
The Vatican is another matter. Did you know there were two Jewish Popes. And that doesn't include the one who died a few years ago whose Polish mother's birth certificate says 'Juden'
This is not an attempt to put down your efforts so much as a plea to get more of your facts straight. The ultimate conspiracy story of the ages would be great, backed up by some solid historical facts.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
In part that is why I am on ATS is to get as many facts straight as possible, where it is possible. I can tell you this though friend Mike even if I had every fact, even if I knew precisely the grand conspiracy in all it’s details, even if I laid them all out, without a typo, bad grammar or my debauched sense of humor…no one would believe it exactly as I put it out, and no one would believe every source as being factual…
Originally posted by dooper
There's never been any love lost between the Persians and the Arabs.
The Persians seem to think that Arabs are ignorant, dirty people of crude origin. I recall someone saying that the Qur'an itself was in essence, a Persian creation.
The Arabs traditionally seem to think the Persians overbearing, aloof, and full of themselves.
Culturally, they have vast differences.
Religiously, SOME differences.
I think the Saudi's, the Jordanians, and a few other Arab nations wouldn't mind the Persians being taken down a notch.
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Being Jewish myself I'd like to believe what you say... I'd feel allot safer...
Sadly, it's not
would be nice though... if some of my relatives actually ruled the world, i'd be allot nicer to them that's for sure...
Originally posted by mmiichael
From all available information, and knowing how the Saudis like to leak information strategically, the plan is to underline to Iran and anyone considering supporting them, like Russia, that everyone is onside and fully prepared.
Iran has to look closer at what cards they are really holding. Hezbollah and Hamas are on the payroll, but how far does that go? US forces are in their neighbourhood. They've been provoking Israel in Gaza, Lebanon, and rhetorically. They've made noises about the US and Britain fomenting dissent. Real or imagined, their non-compliant nuclear program is interpreted as a threat to peace in the region.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, is waiting to see what they'll do next.
Mike
[edit on 7-7-2009 by mmiichael]
Originally posted by ElloAll
You better pray a million prayers that Israel does not attack Iran. I dont like a lot of things Israel does but I'd hate to see them get destroyed!
Originally posted by ElloAll
You better pray a million prayers that Israel does not attack Iran. I dont like a lot of things Israel does but I'd hate to see them get destroyed!
Originally posted by ElloAll
the Khazars were always a blood-thirsty people expelled wherever they go -- like aliens without human emotions,