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Democrats refusing to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance! In this case, though, the context actually improves the story. This takes place in Albany, where the New York state Senate remains locked in a power struggle in an evenly divided chamber. Rather than an insult to American patriotism, the Democrats here engaged in an insult to the intelligence of New Yorkers:
Is petulance the highest form of patriotism? After all, according to the Democratic leader of the California assembly, dissent is apparently now terrorism. Maybe the Democrats on the other coast want to make tantrums and sandbox tactics into democracy.
Originally posted by Champagne
Our flag, in my mind, represents the people of the US as much as anything else!
No damn wonder this country is in the condition it is today! No wonder is seems to be a lost cause when we have so many people who, themselves, seem to have no respect for the traditions of their own country!!
Now go ahead.......and demonize me for believing in the traditions that have been a part of making this a once great nation. God, Family, Country is no more according to many. Makes me sick....but I, totally, understand why the US is not the nation it use to be. What is worse? The politicians or the people themselves?
Originally posted by Xtinguish
I understand what you are saying OP and I agree with you.
Originally posted by Floating thru Reality
reply to post by jsobecky
Are you actually saying you don't know the difference between a human life and a rectangular peice of cloth?
Originally posted by dgtempe
I have to say that if today, i was asked to sing the American Anthem, or Pledge Alligeance, i WOULD NOT.
I dont care if the president was green, black, white or purple.
We have ended up in a very bad place, and until someone does something to have it fixed, and shows Patriotism to ME, I will NOT SHOW IT BACK.
To me, all these things symbolize alleagance to the country, which i have.
The country is run by whomever we supposedly elect, and so far,
i dont see the president of the most important country on Earth, show ME that he is going to fix anything,
Or show ME that he cares about my welfare
Or show ME that he is worthy of my respect.
As far as i'm concerned, this is NOT America now. WE are people WITHOUT A COUNTRY THANKS TO THOSE WHO RUN IT.
Let me know when we have our country back, and i'll be the first to say the pledge, fly the flag and sing songs about our country.
I dont think this is just the "lefties" either. Republicans feel the same.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I have to say that if today, i was asked to sing the American Anthem, or Pledge Alligeance, i WOULD NOT.
I dont care if the president was green, black, white or purple.
We have ended up in a very bad place, and until someone does something to have it fixed, and shows Patriotism to ME, I will NOT SHOW IT BACK.
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by Xtinguish
What you are seeing in dg's post is just frustration. I know dgtempe; she is a wonderful, dedicated person who landed here after escaping some very bad conditions under a dictator. She is just worn out from seeing year after year of the US sliding into mediocrity because of poor leadership.
Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
chill out before you have a heart attack. they are within their rights, and youre saying "whats my point?!"
my point is we are guaranteed rights and that is part of what makes america great. i dont see why youre having such a problem with people exercising their rights.
And the "they arent pledging loyalty to us" argument is weak. not standing up has nothing to do with their loyalty. standing up to say the pledge is ONE expression of loyalty, not proof of whether someone is loyal or not.
calm down and dont get so upset over people exercising their rights.
this is like that moronic "the american flag lapel pin" nonsense.
Originally posted by Kaytagg
The pledge was not written by lawmakers or politicians, but rather by a socialist minister by the name of Francis Bellamy in 1892.
Mandatory recitation of it strikes me as a tad socialist, as the flag symbolizes the state and not the people. (Note: I'm not saying a little socialism is a bad thing, in some cases)