Roswell Debris Confirmed As Extraterrestrial: Lab Located, Scientists Named!

Good Day All,

[The following concerns "UFO history," specifically Roswell, those not interested in these aspects should skip this thread]

This just in from Tony Bragalia:

Newly discovered documents reveal that in the months immediately following the purported 1947 UFO crash at Roswell, secret government studies began on a material that was previously unknown to science. The "memory metal" that was studied precisely matches some of the debris material reported by several witnesses to the crash. Evidence shows that -under military direction- these unique metal studies were undertaken by a contracted laboratory that possessed advanced technical capabilities that the U.S. government itself did not have at the time. A former high-level scientist employed by the involved laboratory has offered a confession that he was tasked to study the crashed UFO material. Information provided by two U.S. Air Force Generals also offers direct support for this discovery. . . .

Tony's work has also been added to the latest edition of Witness To Roswell, by Schmitt & Carey.

Kudos to Tony and his efforts!

The rest of the story . . .

Cheers,
Frank


[edit on 26-5-2009 by Frank Warren]

[edit on 26-5-2009 by Frank Warren]

Very cool...more on the memory metal...

Nitinol is a specially processed combination of Nickel and Titanium, or NiTi. It displays many of the very same properties and physical characteristics as some of the crash debris materials that was reported at Roswell. Both are memory metals that "remember" their original shape and both are extremely lightweight. The materials are reported to have similar color, possess a high fatigue strength and are able to withstand extreme high heat. Today Nitinol is incorporated in items as far-ranging as medical implants and bendable eyeglass frames. It is produced in many forms including sheet, wire and coil. Newer "intelligent metal" systems are being studied by NASA in the creation of bendable or flappable wings, as self-actuators and as a "self-healing" outer hull "skin" for spacecraft. It is believed that the memory metal found at Roswell came from the outer structures of a downed extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Ufo Digest

I wonder what will come of this. I will stay tuned.

[edit on 26-5-2009 by bringthelight]

This is certainly very exciting news. As the lies and cover ups of the Roswell crash are falling apart one after another, the truth may not be that far off!

To think that these things have been blatantly covered makes me trust our government as far as I could throw it, not far at all.

Thanks for this important information Frank, it’s another piece of the big Roswell puzzle.
Personally, I am convinced for many years now that it was an Alien craft, but how more evidence comes available the better it is.

Indeed Kudos to Tony and his efforts!

I think UFO hunters touched on this subject. If i remember correctly they had an old timmer there that got sent out to pick up pieces of the "weather baloon". They gave him nummerous different pieces of material like mylar and tin-foil. The closest thing he said he had ever seen to what he picked up that day was the memory metal they had him feel.

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It is good news documents are coming to light about this case regarding this memory metal, Id still really love to see some released documents on the crafts pilots though, to prove beyond doubt it was an alien craft or not.

Good Day SV,

Originally posted by spacevisitor
Thanks for this important information Frank, it’s another piece of the big Roswell puzzle.

Your welcome--I am very impressed with Tony' research!

Personally, I am convinced for many years now that it was an Alien craft, but how more evidence comes available the better it is.

Indeed Kudos to Tony and his efforts!

Tony's efforts, (along with several others) contrast the notion that the Roswell Incident" is a dead issue . . . he's moving the bar.

Cheers,
Frank

I find the article highly questionable (I cant even see any of the supposed documents?).

Further, it talks as if shape memory alloys where something shocking and new that was discovered. It wasnt. We've known about them since before WW2 and we've moved beyond this "advanced" alien alloy, using shape memory polymers or ferromagnetic shape memory alloys.

Everything I've read about this case, the changes in the stories,
the new characters that appear, the debunkers and the way
that the US Airforce keep coming up with different answers,
It makes my nylons roll up and down!

But something happened, something that left a lasting
impression on a young Jesse Marcel.
If he's making it up, he's disgracing his father's memory
and that's something a son should never do.

Mac Brazel found something, and if it was a mundane
amount of weather-balloon debris, the tale would've
fallen away, in fact... it wouldn't have arose.

Interesting that you need hot water to get it to its original shape. . .


[edit on 26-5-2009 by amongus]

Interesting...imo though Roswell while probably the most famous cases in the UFO community.I think its probably one of the worst and i dont think it was a genuine UFO crash.I know i may be in the minority here but it's just never convinved me.As for this metal like a previous poster said we had been experimenting with such metals before Roswell anyway.Yet,we supposedly got the tech from an alien ship? Doesn't make sense to me.

Originally posted by A boy in a dress

Everything I've read about this case, the changes in the stories,
the new characters that appear, the debunkers and the way
that the US Airforce keep coming up with different answers,
It makes my nylons roll up and down!

Well said!!! Its a story that will never go away, characters will always come and go until they tell us what really went on. Children of children will keep it alive.

But something happened, something that left a lasting
impression on a young Jesse Marcel.
If he's making it up, he's disgracing his father's memory
and that's something a son should never do.

again very well said . The people of this case are its truth, not the balloons and dummies, the people.

Mac Brazel found something, and if it was a mundane
amount of weather-balloon debris, the tale would've
fallen away, in fact... it wouldn't have arose.

Exactly.

I still say we need people and documents regarding the pilots to finally bring the truth out. Metals and craft could possibly be human from black projects, but ALIENS flying them are not.

When this story broke... no wait, the story DIDN'T break,
it was just a news item that was picked up in a sleepy
New Mexico town.
The Roswell Air Base had no problem in letting Walter
Haut relay a message to the local radio station that they
had in fact captured a flying disc.
No sneaking around, no arguments... something was
found, the Police checked and didn't know what it was,
the Base was asked to check it and realised what it might
be and took the debris away.

No mention of parachute dummies, no mention of neoprene,
nothing. An incident that came and went.
It wasn't until Moore and Berlitz dragged it into the mainstream
light, that it lived again.
But Brazel and his neighbours, The Barnetts saw something...

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The main "debunking" of the story relies on someone believing that everyone in Roswell in 1947 was uneducated and as dumb as a box of hair. It is hard for me to believe that no one back then had ever seen aluminum foil, neoprene or a dime store mannequin. This makes the official explanation ludicrous.

The USAF added bunk, not removed it.

Explanation 1: flying disc recovered
Explanation 2: weather balloon
Explanation 3: we lied, it was actually a top secret mogul balloon
Explanation 4: high altitude crash test dummies
Explanation 5: we're telling you the truth this time, really!
Explanation 6: wull... we lied about the truth back then, but were are absolutely, positively telling you the truth now.

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That ID chart you linked is hilarious.

Its interesting to think how a craft made with such advanced, non-destructive memory metal/material could leave a wreckage of debris when it supposedly crashed.

And how unfortunate for those aliens who traversed vast depths of space and time only to have their ufo explode on earth.

I do not think that anyone claims that the metal was non-destructable, Just more damage resistant than other metals.

Well, it supposedly 'crashed' twice, the first time it gouged
a huge groove in the desert floor and left chunks of itself
scattered there.
Mac noticed the morning after the thunderstorm that his
sheep were wary of a section of his land and after investigating,
he found the debris and the damage.

The second 'hit'... we can assume, was found by the Army
as they scoured the land and eventually came to the butte.
There, supposedly was the broken craft.

The humanoid evidence came initially from a nurse and
the Undertaker.

Well, you guys can continue to go and on about ufo's and aliens but I'm telling you they are real and are here!

reply to post by amongus
I read about Nitinol a long time ago,
it was quite widely publicised in the science mags off-the-shelf.
I think the water bit is,(while not wrong in any way)a little misleading
it is more to do with temperature,one of the suggested uses at the time
was,for instance using Nitinol as a way of opening Greenhouse windows
at preferred temperatures,another was for an almost eternal motion
wheel partially in and partially out of water if you see the idea,
interesting stuff,after the inital buzz the concept seemed to fade away,
or maybe it is in use today in some things.
Nitinol as described then was not completely reformable,it did/does
have a point of deformation,although much higher than any other alloy.