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Originally posted by Solomons
But didnt the queen sign ?something? sorry when labour came into power that would get through that loophole?
Originally posted by Cythraul
I must have seen a different definition. Thanks for that. Point still stands though - acknowledgement of the differences that make different ethnicities and cultures so wonderful is not 'racist' in the popular perception of the word. It does not require hatred or supremacy, just an understanding that multiple ethnic identities is better than forcing the world to adhere to one new 'world ethnicity'.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Past white on black racism aside, do you agree that the BPA is 'racist' by your definition? How about when non-whites are the dominant ethnic group in the UK. Would a White Police Association be acceptable then, out of interest?
The Metropolitan Black Police association then formed following discussions between black staff and the MPS. The association, which formed in September 1994, was launched by the then MPS Commissioner. At the launch the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police said, "I have made it clear where I stand. I see the formation of this Association as the only way forward".
They shouldn't have to. But the world is fast growing full of people who are geographically disconnected from their ancestral homelands. I'd suggest we'd all be happier where our roots run most deep... but that gets into all kinds of spiritual concepts.
You love the fact that Britain is becoming less and less unique? I think the fundamental difference of opinion you and I will struggle to overcome is that I don't want to be part of a uniform global community. I want to be part of a community that echoes Britain's rich past, and then the ability to travel elsewhere and experience someone else's rich past. Worldwide multiculturalism will eventually make that impossible. How evil is that?
Well I'll make no secrets about my dislike for Islam, but this isn't the place for that. I believe that our growing materialistic tendency is partially being brought about because of a lack of cultural cohesion. You no-longer know your next-door neighbours name, let alone whether they even speak English or not. Multiculturalism requires that everyone be constantly wary, stepping on eggshells to ensure that they don't insult the person in the street. A shared culture means shared values and a shared perception of what kind of speech and practice is acceptable.
In short, multiculturalism is - unfortunately - systematically flawed and as the immigrant communities acquire greater confidence to demand that their home cultures be made fully acceptable here, incompatibility issues will become increasingly apparent until consequences arise. Sad but true.
But the most important point of all is that - whether you want multiculturalism or not - it is NOT being promoted by governments for the reasons stated. Rather, there is a sinister agenda behind it and that in itself makes the whole concept worth questioning.
Originally posted by blupblup
and just because many people of many races and ethnicities live in one country..... does not somehow mean that that countries heritage and traditions will stop.....although the BNP would have you believe that, it is NOT the case at all.
Originally posted by blupblup
That is the point of multiculturalism, multi (many) cultures....
Originally posted by blupblup
Well then shouldn't we be over in Rome or Scandanavia or something then?
I mean the Brits are as mongrel a nation/people as any?
Unless of course you're a Celt and you somehow were not affected by the years of wars and occupation of Britain?
Originally posted by blupblup
You could "suggest" we'd all be happier......but you don't know that.... you just wish it so "all these bloody foreigners" would be gone.
Originally posted by blupblup
I love the fact that we are becoming more diverse.
And there is nothing that you can't enjoy or celebrate about Britain's past?
What exactly can't you do, that you'd like to be able to.... just because of multiculturalism?
I don't get your point?
Originally posted by blupblup
So if you had white neighbours, you'd know their name and be best pals with them?
but because they're not white, they probably don't speak English and there is no point in you going round to introduce yourself??
Pathetic mate....
Originally posted by blupblup
I for one am glad we live in a diverse and wonderful nation... i would hate to see that change.
Originally posted by Cythraul
Hi Blupblup, I'll address what I deem the most pertinent points, as we seem to have drifted drastically off topic. I've had this debate oh-so-many times and not once has it ever achieved anything. I think that in today's Britain two intelligent people can have fundamentally opposing worldviews, such as ours, that are not reconcilable.]
Yes, and it works until the point that one of those cultures refuses to compromise any longer. Islam grows ever-confident and where fundamental aspects of Islamic tradition are incompatible with British tradition, there will be strife.]
I'd like to be able to express my pride in our heritage, I'd like to be able to criticise religions I find to be abhorrent and detrimental to the human race,
Will I even be allowed to have a non-Muslim faith in 50 years? Sure, laugh at my melodrama, but it's a very real possibility that Britain will become an Islamic republic by the end of my lifetime.]
That's a severe twisting of my words friend. That is absolutely NOT what I meant at all.]
So many people think that multiculturalism is a proven success, but I believe that as it picks up even greater speed there will be unfortunate consequences. The rise in BNP support indicates this.
Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Nationhood and allegiance exist only in the minds of men. They are meaningless to me... I am an individual before I am anything else.
Originally posted by 44soulslayer
Interesting... thanks for sharing your views.
What makes an indigenous white person intrinsically more British than a non-indigenous person?
Originally posted by blupblup
But i have actually quite enjoyed it and i respect you for having a civil and interesting discussion with me..... even if if we do totally disagree, we can still be cool with one another.
Originally posted by blupblup
So that would be any and all religions then?
Originally posted by blupblup
I think the rise in BNP support indicates many things... but as we are "winding-down".....I'd rather leave it for another day
Peace my friend
Originally posted by Cythraul
Blupblup - I used to DESPISE the BNP. I mean, REALLY despise them. Then one day I both looked up and saw my heritage dying in front of my eyes and looked into the BNP firsthand. I was surprised that this racist party I'd despised all my life was actually interesting in protecting the rich, ancient heritage I hold dear, NOT hating or denigrating anyone of any other race.
As stated, I just don't see the preservation of Britain's indigenous community as racist in any way I'm afraid. It is not because ethnic minorities are unwanted or inherently inferior (what idiot could think such a thing?) but simply because they have their ancestral homelands elsewhere. I've got plenty of black and Asian friends and I value them all. As far as I understand it BNP policy would allow them to stay in Britain, which is fantastic. What I object to is the wholesale colonisation of Britain, culturally, spiritually and ethnically.
Originally posted by MCoG1980
You are being fed a line by the BNP, and you are swallowing it up, hook line and sinker.
Originally posted by MCoG1980
You mentioned your friends, are any of them british by birth??? Ohh to be ALLOWED to stay in the country you were born in, how good of the BNP, they should be so grateful
Originally posted by MCoG1980
You bang on about our heritage, i wonder just how much you actually know about british heritage. Out of curiousity, what is your eye and hair colour?