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Pharmaceuticals found in fish across U.S.

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posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:13 AM

Fish caught near wastewater treatment plants serving five major U.S. cities had residues of pharmaceuticals in them, including medicines used to treat high cholesterol, allergies, high blood pressure, bipolar disorder and depression, researchers reported Wednesday.

Findings from this first nationwide study of human drugs in fish tissue have prompted the Environmental Protection Agency to significantly expand similar ongoing research to more than 150 different locations.

"The average person hopefully will see this type of a study and see the importance of us thinking about water that we use every day, where does it come from, where does it go to? We need to understand this is a limited resource and we need to learn a lot more about our impacts on it," said study co-author Bryan Brooks, a Baylor University researcher and professor who has published more than a dozen studies related to pharmaceuticals in the environment.

A person would have to eat hundreds of thousands of fish dinners to get even a single therapeutic dose, Brooks said. But researchers including Brooks have found that even extremely diluted concentrations of pharmaceutical residues can harm fish, frogs and other aquatic species because of their constant exposure to contaminated water.

What else is in our water and food? There are ways to clean the water and I think that cities and municipalities are too cheap to do it. It can get rather expensive.

Or could this be purposeful, like fluoride?

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:15 AM
reply to post by skeptic1

I cant afford my co-pay half the time, and these fish are getting em free?
But seriously, i think it means these companies are "flushing" batches.
Throwing out the lots that dont meet criteria.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:19 AM
reply to post by guinnessford

That's always been the case. They always dump batches and extras and waste and returns.

The problem is that the water is not getting cleaned like it use to. There are ways to clean the water of most impurities and water is suppose to be tested for chemical levels. That isn't happening.

If it is like this close to the waste water treatment plants, imagine what it is in the fresh water ponds, lakes, rivers, and streams all around the world.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:22 AM
Is it that its not getting clean,
Or they are dumping more?

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:24 AM
reply to post by guinnessford

It doesn't matter.

Water is suppose to be tested in the treatment plants. Even if they are dumping more, the tests should show the levels of chemicals in the water. That tells me that either the testing isn't being done or that the actual "cleaning" of the water (the proper treatment) isn't being done in the plants.

Either way, it is dangerous.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:27 AM
reply to post by skeptic1

This has been a problem for a while. What it mans is that sanitary waste is not treated to remove pharmaceuticals. Wastewater treatment plants use a mix of baceria to digest sewage. The bacteria do not remove pharmaceuticals that have cleared the body. Birth control drugs are the biggest problem and have played havoc with fish populations far from any drug production site. The pharmaceutical companies recommend against flushing any unused drugs down the toilet and suggest backyard burial but that does not allow for bodily wastes. Chlorination plants do seem to remove pharmaceuticals from drinking water, but a charcoal filter will take care of any residuals if you are worried.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:39 AM
The reason this situation persists is because the FDA, EPA, USDA, NIH, and nearly all of the rest of the regulatory agencies are led by corporate political appointees who are there specifically to devise ways to remove liability from Dow, 3M, Pfizer, and anyone else who has enough 'spare' capital to engage in political lobbying.

[edit on 25-3-2009 by Maxmars]

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:42 AM
reply to post by skeptic1

I agree with you, its very dangerous.
But it has been around for a while, and even though that dont make it right, i feel were a day late and a buck short if we do anything now.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by Maxmars

I won't argue that point. I have to deal with the EPA on a daily basis being an environmental protection specialist for the DoD. On this base, we have to follow very stringent standards with our waste water treatment plant. Basically, the water is treated for any and every possible chemical.

We get nailed if anything is in the water that isn't suppose to be.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:48 AM
reply to post by skeptic1

So i guess these places get away with it by slapping people with their checkbook?
I know thats the usual scenario.
Geez, what else is getting swept under the rug by the cash broom?
Whens it all gonna end, you ask?
When the planet gets sick of being treated like a freakin dump, and spews it all back out at us.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:48 AM
reply to post by skeptic1

This problem is not process wastewater treatment at the production plants it is sanitary wastewater treatment at sewage plants. Drugs and drug metabolites pass through the body and are excreted. The fact that fish are affected all over the country confirms this.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:58 AM
The last time I had heard about this it was also in the water supply that comes back into the houses. Like our drinking water. The problem at that time IF I remember correctly was that the breakdown of antidepressants, antseizure, birth control pills ect. was the treatment plants didn't have the ability to or it wasn't possible to completely eradict this contamination. The article said of course there were really no side effects on us but they also said they didn't know the long term effects since only lately there has been such masive use of these drugs.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 12:34 PM
I know that this is just a news article and not a published study, but I am curious to see what these "pharmaceuticals" actually are. Yes, they could come from people flushing medicines down the toilet, but they could also have no relation to anything in the medical industry, and just be similar compounds used in a variety of different applications.

Something similar I can think of if you use clorox bleach to clean your clothes, well that has (or had) mercury in it, and that ends up in fish. And probably some industry got blamed for you washing your clothes.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 05:48 PM
reply to post by testrat

These are pharmaceuticals. They are more complex than common solvents and their chemical structures are such that they have no other applications.
If you are worried, use a charcoal filter on your drinking water.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 05:56 PM
Though I am fairly distant from a major city, closest is Wash DC about 95 miles, we have had similar problems with a Merck plant upriver (Shenandoah) along with a mysterious fishkill the happened about 3yrs ago and only last year did some of the smallmouth bass reach maturity.

From what I remember, at the time (3 yrs ago), blame was put on mainly human waste, ie septics etc.... which prompted a complete change in the requirements for installing a new septice field.

To me it was more the overuse of concentrated fertilizers and the discharge of the Merck plant, but hey now we are talking about BIG money.

Doesn't BIG money usually win out?

I wouldn't be surprised if they had some of the same results if they took samples from the fish in the river here.

Oh BTW, you can catch 'em here but the fish advisories say to only eat 2 meals per month....

No thanks, I catch and release. I will get my fish elsewhere.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 06:06 PM
Whats even worse is the fish eating all that plastic in the ocean.

The United Nations Environment Program estimated in 2006 that every square mile of ocean hosts 46,000 pieces of floating plastic [source: UN Environment Program]. In some areas, the amount of plastic outweighs the amount of plankton by a ratio of six to one. Of the more than 200 billion pounds of plastic the world produces each year, about 10 percent ends up in the ocean [source: Greenpeace]. Seventy percent of that eventually sinks, damaging life on the ocean floor [source: Greenpeace]. The rest floats; much of it ends up in gyres and the massive garbage patches that form there, with some plastic eventually washing up on a distant shore.

How much plastic are you eating? Heh, and you thought fish was good for you.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 06:12 PM
People taking these medications should be required to take their urine to hazardous waste recycling facilities. And, a class action law suit should be initiated to get them to pay for an environmental cleanup of this stuff they are pissing all over the planet. Don't ya think so?

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 06:18 PM
reply to post by Divinorumus

That's a little extreme.

But, waste water treatment plants need to be regulated to keep up with the times. True, a charcoal filter may keep the pharmaceuticals out of our drinking water, but it does nothing to keep them out of the food we get from the water.

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