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Originally posted by Foppezao
It is nice to see that most Europeans have the same consciousness about peace in our union, that is why the EU is important, but also to act flexibel to tackle these clashes. We had the same clash before between Catholic and Protestant and we have learnt from that.Sadly the UK had to overcome civil war first.But look they are ruling together now.In most countries thankfully states overcame that with with peacefull means.
And yes that is why it is also important to criticize the EU and the creation of a constitution.
trial and error.
[edit on 4-3-2009 by Foppezao]
Originally posted by Dermo
reply to post by cooler
This is a little OTT.
Most Muslims in the EU integrate well.. many create their own 'settlements' in suburbs and inner city areas but most do not cause ANY trouble.
There is a tiny portion of the EU Muslim minority that is extremist but that is blown completely out of proportion.
Some countries are resisting "Islamification" in the form of mosques etc by denying planning permission. The vast majority of Muslims understand this because their countries do not permit many of our places of worship to be built.
The process of integration can be sticky at times but it takes a generation for a family to be properly integrated.
Also, easily half of the Muslims that are born into our countries are not practicing their faith.
The perception given by many US media outlets is that the Muslims are taking over and that they are dangerous.. this is propaganda used to fuel fear.
Romanian Muslim rapes?
Originally posted by cooler
... the romanian muslim rapes in itali
Originally posted by ArMaP
Romanian Muslim rapes?
Originally posted by cooler
... the romanian muslim rapes in itali
Where did you got that information?
What do you mean by "dark races"?
Originally posted by OhZone
Yes, anyone can be Muslim, however most of them are the dark races.
Originally posted by ArMaP
reply to post by cooler
I asked because I have seen it on the news several times, and they always said that they were Gypsies, and they are Christians, not Muslims.
Originally posted by cooler
Small groups of extremists both from small separate Islamic groups and righthand extremists of European origin create a mess now
Originally posted by cooler
the romanian muslim rapes in itali
The majority of the country's citizens are members of the Romanian Orthodox Church, with 86.7% of the country's population identifying as Eastern Orthodox. Other important religions include Roman Catholicism (4.7%), Protestantism (3.7%), Pentecostal denominations (1.5%) and the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church (0.9%).
Originally posted by Wallachian
Originally posted by cooler
the romanian muslim rapes in itali
You just set a new standard for "denying ignorance". Seriously, where do you get your information from? Is the rest of the info in your thread as well researched as this pearl of wisdom?
There are NO muslims in Romania apart from a few immigrants and a tiny ethnic minority, and they're obviously not the rapists in Italy. I won't go into that, since it's not the subject of your thread.
There won't be any civil war in Europe, as long as the authorities don't encourage hate and segregation.
P.S. From wiki:
The majority of the country's citizens are members of the Romanian Orthodox Church, with 86.7% of the country's population identifying as Eastern Orthodox. Other important religions include Roman Catholicism (4.7%), Protestantism (3.7%), Pentecostal denominations (1.5%) and the Romanian Greek-Catholic Church (0.9%).
Originally posted by cooler
civil war in the eu may not happen this year but, the dutch mep geert wilders was invited to speak in the uk parliment & to show his film "fitna" he was turned away from the uk as a threat to englands peace, this was also seen as silencing free speach.
where as many radical imams have been allowed into the uk, this is appeasement to radical islam.
in england at present, the lack of control over our boarders has lead to mass immigration, thanks to brussels, all three main partys labour.conservative, libdems all refuse to debate this.
i do know europe have travelled around europe quite a bit, have family in europe
its likley that the bnp would not be as popular. but my guess is that labour will continue not addressing these concerns because they know the voting muslims will be upset & right now appeasement of minoritys is more important to labour.
Originally posted by Goathief
Originally posted by cooler
civil war in the eu may not happen this year but, the dutch mep geert wilders was invited to speak in the uk parliment & to show his film "fitna" he was turned away from the uk as a threat to englands peace, this was also seen as silencing free speach.
Good, he's not a nice man and he should not be made welcome.
where as many radical imams have been allowed into the uk, this is appeasement to radical islam.
Many extreme clerics have also been deported from the country, it's hard to know when one is because they don't exactly broadcast their views until they are here - not really a valid point is it?
in england at present, the lack of control over our boarders has lead to mass immigration, thanks to brussels, all three main partys labour.conservative, libdems all refuse to debate this.
Two things: firstly they do debate it (a quick google seach with provide thousands of links) and secondly "our boarders"? Are you British? I had assumed English was your second language and you also said this:
i do know europe have travelled around europe quite a bit, have family in europe
... so where are you from exactly?
its likley that the bnp would not be as popular. but my guess is that labour will continue not addressing these concerns because they know the voting muslims will be upset & right now appeasement of minoritys is more important to labour.
The BNP is a tiny party with very few (although hardcore) supporters, they were almost outnumbered by protesters at their annual nazi-fest and thankfully will be unable to host it in the same location next year.
[edit on 5-3-2009 by Goathief]
Originally posted by infinite
Interesting notion, but wrong circumstances.
If the Eurozone was to collapse and the European Union to fail, a power vacuum - larger than that since the fall of Rome - would engulf Europe.
This modern Austrian-Hungarian Empire scenario is the worst possible nightmare for Europe - millions of citizens would become illegal in numerous countries. Rapid expulsions from border to border will lead to persecutions and armed responses.
EU law would not exist nor European citizen rights.
The EU is run as a benevolent dictatorship because it has to in order to operate and manage twenty seven different nations. Imagine, if you will, what will happen if dictatorship ended?
You'd have chaos in Eastern Europe. EU membership gave them protection and economic empowerment.
Nihilism would rule across a Europe that was united for sixty years. The economic disillusionment would bankrupt fragile nations - Ireland, Italy, Spain, Greece, et al - and fascist movements could accumulate. After all, the European Parliament currently has a significant neo-fascist, racialist and ultra-nationalist segment. It's highly plausible.
And, to reformulate a political union, a single unifying force would be needed. This time, treaties wouldn't be signed with euphoric ceremonies or ostentatious summits - it would take a war to unify Europe.
[edit on 5-3-2009 by infinite]
Originally posted by OhZone
Why do people knock "Stormfront".
I found this in the platonic area. Disgusting and sadly some brainwashed White woman will race mix at the same time as stepping out on her husband. I feel bad for whatever white husband is left to scrub himself in scalding water to wash the filth of what his wife does.
Southern white gentleman looking for a beautiful black woman.
Isn't that like looking for a unicorn? Neither exists.
Ewie Ewie Gross!
Originally posted by cooler
whether you like an mep or not is irelivent, but refusing entry to geert wilders sends a loud & clear message that free speach is not welcome. that is fascist.
i have travelled around europe & much of the world, where i am from is not relevent to will there be a civil war in the eu.
the size of the bnp can not be estemated on a turnout at a protest, if this were true, the three main partys would only have a few thousand members.
Originally posted by Goathief
Originally posted by OhZone
Why do people knock "Stormfront".
Uh, because it's full of pathetic racist idiots. Take this thread for example:
/forum/showthread.php?t=578055]Craigslist filth
I found this in the platonic area. Disgusting and sadly some brainwashed White woman will race mix at the same time as stepping out on her husband. I feel bad for whatever white husband is left to scrub himself in scalding water to wash the filth of what his wife does.
Southern white gentleman looking for a beautiful black woman.
Isn't that like looking for a unicorn? Neither exists.
Ewie Ewie Gross!
Etc.
Originally posted by cooler
whether you like an mep or not is irelivent, but refusing entry to geert wilders sends a loud & clear message that free speach is not welcome. that is fascist.
So using the same logic we should allow the extreme clerics to continue and not deport them. You can't have it both ways.
i have travelled around europe & much of the world, where i am from is not relevent to will there be a civil war in the eu.
Is is very much so because you said "our" when referring to England - you are not English or British and would be an immigrant just like the ones you are scapegoating.
the size of the bnp can not be estemated on a turnout at a protest, if this were true, the three main partys would only have a few thousand members.
I wasn't talking about a BNP protest, rather their red white and blue festival which is the biggest event on their calendar and is attended by nearly all their members. Also the member list was leaked onto the internet last year and it contained less than 8,000! That's almost pitiful, the reason they sometimes get more at elections is something called protest voting. I suggest you look it up.
Either way they have been exposed countless times as violent, racist thugs - did you know the man who runs their website was imprisoned for attempting to blow up a mixed race school in South Africa? Luckily he was too stupid to make the bomb correctly but these people are the bread & butter of the BNP.
I am English, I know what happens in my own country - yet you are claiming to know more? Makes I larf...