It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


Jesus talking about Aliens?

page: 1

log in


posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:42 PM
Hi there,

John 10:16

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

Is this Jesus talking about the some "others" on other Planets (not of THIS fold)

What do you guys think of this?

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:46 PM
reply to post by HarryCat

not my first impression but certainly interesting. First thing that came to mind for me would be people from another region of the earth.

i'd love to hear what Ash or Miriam thinks on the matter.

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:47 PM
I would think so. Understanding would be universal and the end result of mutual understanding would be "one fold". I sure hope its aliens......

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:47 PM
Unlikely, since there are and were thousands of other groups of regular old human-type people wandering around in the world (and even in the Middle East) who fit that same basic description. He could have meant anybody.

But, no, let's hypothesize for no good reason that he meant aliens or American Indians, or the Japanese. Why not?

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:48 PM
I personally would say another religion or view reaching the same purpose, maybe Muslims/ Buddhists / Christians. but to keep an openmind, who knows was Planet X will bring us.

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:54 PM
The Mormons think thats them

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 06:25 PM
In his time, Jesus of Nazareth was only marginally recognized as the Messiah of the Jewish people, although his birth was foretold in Jewish scriptures for many, many generations. In fact, his bloodline (the House of David) was kept pure for centuries in anticipation of his birth. It was only after his death (hundreds of years after his death) that the followers of Jesus finally grew in numbers sufficient to create the vast Christian Church that we know today.

But Jesus himself was a Jew, and his entire life and mission on Earth was about leading the Jewish people out of oppression. Therefore, when Jesus spoke of his "fold," he was specifically talking about the Jewish people.

So, when Jesus spoke of others who were "not of this fold," he was talking about non-Jews. Which includes aliens, too, I guess.

— Doc Velocity

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 07:00 PM
Yeh I think he was talking about the gentiles..

Jews and the gentiles... ?

posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 07:27 PM
just for thought.. "fold" may have been literal..
imagine time-space as a crumpled up blanket...
one fold touching the other..

to traverse through space.. from one point to the other.. you'd have to endure all of that distance.. say.. millions of light years..


you could develop technology to merely tunnel through from one fold in the blanket.. to another where a neighboring fold is touching.

enter - the CERN Large Hadron Collider



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 10:08 PM

Originally posted by prevenge
just for thought.. "fold" may have been literal..imagine time-space as a crumpled up blanket... one fold touching the other..

I don't think Jesus would try to explain interdimensional travel to a bunch of skeptical peasants who were already having trouble understanding the things he said. I don't think Jesus would have made references to folds in space or gravity waves or non-local simultaneity, simply because his contemporary audience wasn't even remotely capable of grasping such concepts.

When he spoke of "fold," I think he was speaking to them in terms they understood — fold as in a flock of sheep. Also, as sophisticated as the ancient Hebrew language was, I kind of doubt that the Hebrew word for "flock of sheep" is the same as the word for "a convolution in the space/time continuum." That's just an idiosyncrasy of the modern English language.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 3/3/2009 by Doc Velocity]

top topics


log in